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Carol,
Thank You so much. I will keep this information as well as Raul's in my Carrillo file until such a time that I can determine if we have a Carrillo connection or not.
Hasta Luego,
Alicia
Carol Turner <cdian@...> wrote:
Hola Carrillo researchers:
My great-grandmother was Francisca Carrillo who was
born in Hujecar in 1843. She married Casmiro Muro in
1863 (Santa Maria). Francisca had 15 children that we
know of and we know that 4 came to the US. I know
very little about the Carrillo's going forward,
however I have traced 3 generations back; Francisca's
father was Pedro Nolasco Carrillo born 1812 in
Colotlan; m. to Tranquilana Sanchez; Pedro's father
was Felipe Carrillo m. to Mariana de Casas; Felipe
Carrillo's father was Andres Carrillo m. to Maria
Estefana Martinez. So this puts me in the late 1770's
with the Carrillo's.
My Francisca did make it to the states, my grandfather
Casmiro died in 1911; I find Francisca in the 1930
census in CA living in LA county with her son Juan.
She lived to be about 94 years old
and I'm told she
died in Delicias, Chiuahua. I've looked at films for
the city from 1932-1938 and found nothing. So there
is some family there in Chiuahua, I just don't know
who yet or what connection. It seems as though we
have lost track of our family from 1900-1920
time-frame which is when they probably were in
transition.
Well just thought I would share some of my Carrillo
info.
Carol Muro-Turner
--- Raul Felix <vato3@...> wrote:
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Hola, Alicia.
Thanks for the response. It was/is a long shot but I'm
sure stranger things happened in the past when it
comes to making family connections Sad to see that
your Carrillo data is a meager as mine. However, I'm
certain this will not stop us from looking, asking
questions and sharing information. After years of
searching I only recently found hard birth data on my
father and his brother via
the LDS FHC film library. I
finally got to experience what it's like to do the
"happy dance." I wish the same for you./Adelante-Raul
Felix
-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Jun 3, 2004 10:21 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Alicia of San Jose
Hola Raul,
In response to your letter where you tell of your
mother searching for her natural father Jose Carrillo.
My heart breaks for her. To live your entire life
wondering what became of your father must be
heartbreaking.
My husband Juan Carrillo's dad was Antonio Carrillo.
He was raised almost as an orphan therefore we did not
know much about his family. His father died when he
was young and his mother left him and his two brothers
to be cared for by family members and not close family
at that. He grew up not as a family member but mostly
as a hired hand for the family's ranch. He never
learned to
read or write. It was said that his mother
was in Kansas but he could never verify it. He died in
1985 before I began my inquiry into our ancestry. What
a shame that I did not take the time or opportunity to
search or even to ask him in detail while he was
alive.
That is what compelled me to go to the rootsweb
message boards and post a message searching for
Mariana Carrillo Jauregui, (his mother). My father
in-law was believed to have been born around 1901 in
the Municipio de Nochistlan but was raised in Jalpa
Zacatecas very close to Calvillo Aguascalientes. He
had two brothers but I don't know what their names
were as I never met any of his family nor for that
matter did my husband. We could never get a birth
certificate for him because it turns out that the
records were burned or lost for 1899-1901 in
Nochistlan. When I was requesting films they also
showed the year 1901 was missing but hopefully I can
find something be
it in Baptisms or Confirmations.
I have requested my first 8 rolls of film from my
family history center and should have them in about a
week. What I have gleaned is mostly oral history. That
would be interesting to see if we do have a family
connection somewhere back in time.
Thank you for writing and we'll keep in touch. I will
submit my history as soon as I have something
substantial.
Muchas Gracias y Buena Suerte,
Alicia Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz de Carrillo
"Raul R. Felix" <vato3@...> wrote:
Hola. I responded to Alicia Carrillo's nopalitos story
because I was seeking info with regards the Carrillo
name. I believe my grandfather's name was JOSE
CARRILLO but I know very little else about him. Based
on a brief autobiography from my mother, JOSE CARRILLO
married MARIA GARCIA in Chihuahua. They had one child,
a daughter, Guadalupe, born 12/12/03. I have NOT BEEN
TO CONFIRM/VALIDATE their
marriage or the birth of the
child via the Chihuahua City records. I've made two
trips to Ciudad Chihuahua (1997-98). Subsequent trips
were made to Zacatecas City. My research group (La
Familia, Anaheim, CA.) also visited nearby Jerez,
Guadalupe and Fresnio. It turns out that my families
FERNANDEZ (Grandmother) and FELIX (grandfather) are
from JEREZ, ZAC. and a place called Hermita De
Guadalupe..which I have yet to locate. I can tell you
more about Jerez if you are interested. It is my hope
that our research group will visit there again. What
I'd like to share with you is that my research
indicates that MARIA GARCIA'S name was actually MARIA
MACIAS. If so, she was 17 at the time of her death
(1905) leaving a 2-3 year old daughter (Guadalupe) in
the care of friends while her husband JOSE CARRILLO
had been drafted (Porfidio Diaz) and sent to serve his
enlistment in Sonora. Guadalupe was brought to the USA
by those who were left to
care for her and thus became
her foster parents. JOSE CARRILLO returned to Chi.
City to find his wife dead and child gone. Over the
years Guadalupe wrote away for information about
herself and her parents but never got a single
response. She was not allowed to go there in person
nor could she afford to do anything more than write
letters and make inquiries of people from that area.
It was her greatest wish to someday learn what became
of her father JOSE CARRILLO. She died in 1985, age 82,
and is buried in Delano, CA. next to her husband
Leonardo Felix. ! ;My research efforts will next
focus on researching the LDS-Parral/Hidalgo archives
for information regarding MARIA (GARCIA) MACIAS. Our
research group visited Parral in 1997 but the archives
were still in boxes and not open to the public. Jerez,
on the other hand, has the original archives open and
available for research. It may turn out that you and
I have some
blood lines in common? If so, this all
comes about because of our mutual interest in
nopalitos./Adelante-Raul R. Felix
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