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Welcome to the group Paige. I recognized the name Zenon Villalobos because I came across it once
before when I was looking for my Villalobos ancestors, so, I did a quick search
and although I don’t descend from him, I do directly descend from his grandparents
which are my sixth great grandparents -Don José Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña
María Antonia Josefa Ponce. It also seems like you might not be using Family
Search. You’ll be able to get much farther in your genealogical search using https://familysearch.org/
Pablo Villalobos like you said was born 22 Mar, 1891 in
Rancho del Refugio de Parga, Aguascalientes. He is the son of Jose Onofre Villalobos
and Juana Torres. Pablo Villalobos paternal grandparents are listed as Zenon
Villalobos and Librada Medina. His maternal Grandparents are listed as Narciso
Torres and Filomena Hernandez. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-88550-28?cc=1502404&…
Jose Onofre Villalobos, was born 12 Jun 1861 in Rancho de
los Alonzos, Aguascalientes. Jose Onofre Villalobos is the son of Zenon
Villalobos and Librada Medina. His paternal grandparents are Jose Mariano (Aniceto)
Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His maternal grandparents are Nabor Medina and
Merced Pedroza. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11811-103720-45?cc=1502404…
Zenon Villalobos was born Jun 1820, he is the son of Jose
Mariano (Aniceto) Villalobos and Ysabel Fonseca. His paternal grandparents are
listed as Ygnacio de Villalobos and (María) Antonia Ponse. His maternal
grandparents are listed as Jose (Ygnacio) Fonseca and Maria (Ana Gertrudis)
Guebara. Here is the link to his baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11849-164245-48?cc=1502404…
Jose Mariano Aniceto Villalobos was born 17 Apr, 1795 in
Aguascalientes. His baptism says Jose Mariano Aniceto, espl, … hijo de Don
Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña María Antonia Ponce. Here is the link to his
baptism: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11044-118500-47?cc=1502404…
Mariano married Ysabel Fonseca 31 Aug, 1814 in Aguascalientes.
On the marriage record it lists him as Mariano Villalobos, Español, originario
y vecino de esta villa (Aguascalientes), hijo legitimo de Ygnacio Villalobos,
difunto y María Antonia Ponce: con Ysabel Fonseca, Española, orignario de
Lagos,… hija legitima de Ygnacio Fonseca y Ana Gertrudis de Guebara. Here is
the link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11566-7184-6?cc=1502404&wc…
Don Ygnacio de Villalobos and Doña María Antonia Ponce were
married 15 Sep 1781 in Aguascalientes. His marriage record lists him as Don
Jose Ygnacio de Villalobos, Español… hijo de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos y
Doña Antonia Martinez de Sotomayor viudo de Maria de (?) Muños con Doña María
Antonia Ponce, Española, originaria y vecina de la (?) … hija legitima de Don
Juan Antonio Ponce y Doña María Gertrudis de Torres. Here is the link to their
marriage: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11782-163144-72?cc=1502404…
I’m not sure who the parents of Don Juan Antonio Ponce y Doña
María Gertrudis de Torres are. I can’t find a marriage with those names. There
is a marriage in the same time frame for a Juan Antonio de Dios Rodríguez Ponce
and a María Gertrudis de la Torre, but I’m not sure it’s the same couple.
Maybe, someone out there could confirm.
Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos’s wife Doña Antonia Martinez
de Sotomayor died Apr 1790. Her death record lists her as Doña Antonia Martinez
de Sotomayor, Española, de esta Villa, hija legitima de Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor
y Doña Graviela Romo, defuntos, viuda de Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos. I can’t
find the parents of Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor or Doña Graviela Romo. I
think her name is probably Gabriela Romo, but I still can’t find the parents
for her or Don Jose Martinez de Sotomayor. Maybe someone else in the forum
might know. Here is the link to her death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76925-85?cc=1502404&…
Don Pedro Pablo de Villalobos died Aug 1783. His death
certificate lists him as hijo legitimo de Don Isidro de Villalobos y de Doña
Gertrudis González de Ruvalcaba. Here is
the link to the death record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11575-76103-95?cc=1502404&…
Doña Gertrudis González de Ruvalcaba is the son of José
González de Ruvalcaba and Petra Díaz Montañez. Don Isidro de
Villalobos born Jan 1692 is the son of Isidro de Villalobos and Francisca
Gertrudis de Escoto y Tovar.
Isidro de Villalobos is the son of Francisco de Villalobos
and María
Vázquez de Retamosa. Francisco de Villalobos and María Vázquez de Retamosa were married 22
May, 1640. Francisco de Villalobos is listed as hijo legitimo de Cristóbal de
Villalobos y María Pérez de Nava. María Vázquez de Retamosa is
listed as hija de Gaspar Macías Valadez y Mariana de Torres. Here is the link to
their marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19053-2891-27?cc=1874591&wc=…
That’s all I know. There are probably others in the group with
more information. Good luck with your search.
Christopher de Cuellar
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Christoper,
I noticed you only listed Zenon's birth date as Jun 1820, if you look clearly the document will say "nació oi" which means today, the same day he was baptized. Sometimes, you have to look really closely because "oi" is just written incorrectly for "hoy."
Daniel
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Thanks Daniel. Good eye, I completely missed that.
Chris
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From: Daniel Alejandro Méndez de Torres y Camino
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Christoper,
I noticed you only listed Zenon's birth date as Jun 1820, if you look clearly the document will say "nació oi" which means today, the same day he was baptized. Sometimes, you have to look really closely because "oi" is just written incorrectly for "hoy."
Daniel
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Chris, a daughter of Pedro Pablo de Villalobos and María Antonia Martín de
Sotomayor y Romo de Vivar married Juan Ramos de Oviedo for which they were
given a dispensa de afinidad de dos parentescos and it has good
genealogical information on your ancestors.
Primer parentesco
[Tronco Isidro de Villalobos]
Isidro Villalobos......1......Ignacio Villalobos
Pedro Villalobos.......2......Ma Manuela Villalobos
Ma Josefa Villalobos...3
Segundo parentesco
[Tronco Alvaro Marín de Peñaloza cc Isabel de Mayorga]
Isabel de Mayorga...................1...Beatriz de Mayorga
[cc Gabriel López.......................Andrés Martín de Sotomayor]
Gabriel López.......................2...Joseph Martínez
[cc Nicolasa Petronila Valenzuela........cc Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar]
Feliciana López.....................3...Ma Antonia Martínez
[cc Ignacio Villalobos...................cc Pedro Pablo Villalobos]
Ma Manuela Villalobos...............4...Ma Josefa Villalobos
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-64424-95?cc=1874591&wc…
Andrés Martin de Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar for
which they received a dispensa de cuarto grado de consanguinidad. I think
Francisca Javiera and not Gabriela was the mother of María Antonia Martín
de Sotomayor. I think the name Gabriela was an error.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-86555-8?cc=1874591&wc=…
Andrés was the son of Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and Beatriz de Mayorga
married 13 June 1666
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30193-28?cc=1502404&…
Francisca Javiera was the daughter of Nicolás Romo de Vivar and Mariana de
Villalobos married 14 Jan 1686 in Teocaltiche
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19050-64295-99?cc=1874591&wc…
Información Matrimonial 31 Dic 1685
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11541-13478-68?cc=1410092&…
Mariana de Villalobos was the daughter of Nicolás de Villalobos and Teresa
Carrillo de Sandi married 27 April 1664 in Teocaltiche
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19053-3735-28?cc=1874591&wc=…
The following dispensa proves that Nicolás de Villalobos was the son of
Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava and Catarina Macías Valadez y Villegas
[Tronco Cristóbal de Villalobos..cc..María Pérez de Nava]
Tomás de Villalobos .........1...Francisco de Villalobos
Nicolás de Villalobos........2...Antonia de Villalobos
Nicolás de Villalobos........3...Manuel de Chávez
Miguel de Villalobos........4.....Margarita de Chávez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-73311-6?cc=1874591&wc=…
That same dispensa also proves that Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava was
the son of Cristóbal de Villalobos and María Pérez de Nava married 19 Oct
1594
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11174-910-34?cc=1615259&wc=1…
[margin]
velados xpoval de villa
lovos i ma peres
[body]
En diez y nueve de Octubre de mill y quinientos y nobenta
y quatro años yo El bachiller Joan ugarte aviendose echo
las amonestaciones y de mas diligencias y con
madamiento del provisor y no...de ni
gun ynpedimento despose y di la ben[roto]
nunpciales en esta iglesia a Xpoval [roto]
vz de esta ciudad y natural en la villa de [roto]
en los reynos de castilla hijo de mateo [roto]
vos y de bernardina Lan clares con [roto]
natural desta ciudad hija de Xpoval [roto]
madalena siendo testigos diego muñoz [roto]
...y franco blanco y andres [roto]
From margin in the marriage document we know that the wife's surname is
Pérez and from the body the bride's father's first name is Cristóbal and
the bride's mother's name is torn so it is unreadable but her surname if
Madalena (Magdalena).
There is a marriage record of Cristóbal Pérez and María Magdalena 19 Dic
1577
"En diez y nueve de diziembre de mill quinos y setenta y siete años El
bachiller Diego de Fuentes clerigo presbitero con my licencia desposo
a...Christoval Perez hijo de Hernan de Perez y de Maria Lopez su mujer que
es de Granatula [de Calatrava] jurisdiccion de Almagro ..Castia [Castilla]
y Maria Magdalena hija de Goncalo Magdalena y de Maria Hernandez su mujer
de esta ciudad aviendo...primero hechas en esta iglesia de la beracruz las
diligencias conforme a derecho....Christoval Perez dio información como era
libre de matrimonyo como consta por el mandamiento.......Diego de Fuentes
....hallado presentes Diego de Baeça del....Pedro......Juan Go. Hermosilla
que es de Mexico"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11174-1223-17?cc=1615259&wc=…
Armando
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Armando and Christopher,
This Ramos de Oviedo line my line. D. Juan Ramos de Oviedo son of D. Juan Ramos de León and Da. Angela de Leon were from Sorvilán, in the province of Granda, Andalucía, Spain. I descend from his first wife Manuela Ignacia Nepomucena de Villalobos baptized on 14 Nov 1748 in Tabasco (Villa del Refugio). This family would have settled originally in Jalpa, but later when Juan remarried he moved to Aguascalientes. I have several records, including his dispensas that lists him active as a commercialist around Pinos, Aguascalientes, Jalpa, Calvillo, and Tabasco.
Daniel
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Armando and Daniel,
Thanks for the information, I almost missed it because I haven't been receiving all the emails. Luckily, I saw it on the thread while I was changing my email preferences. It's extremely valuable information, so, I've copied and pasted from the thread on here in case anyone else missed it like myself.
I had a question regarding Andres Martin de Sotomayor, son of Andres Martin de Sotomayor and Beatriz de Mayorga. When I was trying to locate the parents of Antonia Martinez de Sotomayor, I came across the marriage for Andres Martin de Sotomayor that married Juana Cayetana de Villalobos, daughter of Isidro de Villalobos and Angela Diaz de los Ynojos. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18403-64936-14?cc=1874591&wc…
My question is, whether he was married twice, both to Juana Cayetana de Villalobos and Francisca Javiera Romo or is he a sibling of the Martin de Sotomayor that married Francisca Javiera Romo?
Chris
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New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Submitted by Armando on Mon, 2014-02-17 10:30.
Chris, a daughter of Pedro Pablo de Villalobos and María Antonia Martín de
Sotomayor y Romo de Vivar married Juan Ramos de Oviedo for which they were
given a dispensa de afinidad de dos parentescos and it has good
genealogical information on your ancestors.
Primer parentesco
[Tronco Isidro de Villalobos]
Isidro Villalobos......1......Ignacio Villalobos
Pedro Villalobos.......2......Ma Manuela Villalobos
Ma Josefa Villalobos...3
Segundo parentesco
[Tronco Alvaro Marín de Peñaloza cc Isabel de Mayorga]
Isabel de Mayorga...................1...Beatriz de Mayorga
[cc Gabriel López.......................Andrés Martín de Sotomayor]
Gabriel López.......................2...Joseph Martínez
[cc Nicolasa Petronila Valenzuela........cc Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar]
Feliciana López.....................3...Ma Antonia Martínez
[cc Ignacio Villalobos...................cc Pedro Pablo Villalobos]
Ma Manuela Villalobos...............4...Ma Josefa Villalobos
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-64424-95?cc=1874591&wc…
Andrés Martin de Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar for
which they received a dispensa de cuarto grado de consanguinidad. I think
Francisca Javiera and not Gabriela was the mother of María Antonia Martín
de Sotomayor. I think the name Gabriela was an error.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-86555-8?cc=1874591&wc=…
Andrés was the son of Andrés Martín de Sotomayor and Beatriz de Mayorga
married 13 June 1666
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30193-28?cc=1502404&…
Francisca Javiera was the daughter of Nicolás Romo de Vivar and Mariana de
Villalobos married 14 Jan 1686 in Teocaltiche
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19050-64295-99?cc=1874591&wc…
Información Matrimonial 31 Dic 1685
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11541-13478-68?cc=1410092&…
Mariana de Villalobos was the daughter of Nicolás de Villalobos and Teresa
Carrillo de Sandi married 27 April 1664 in Teocaltiche
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19053-3735-28?cc=1874591&wc=…
The following dispensa proves that Nicolás de Villalobos was the son of
Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava and Catarina Macías Valadez y Villegas
[Tronco Cristóbal de Villalobos..cc..María Pérez de Nava]
Tomás de Villalobos .........1...Francisco de Villalobos
Nicolás de Villalobos........2...Antonia de Villalobos
Nicolás de Villalobos........3...Manuel de Chávez
Miguel de Villalobos........4.....Margarita de Chávez
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-73311-6?cc=1874591&wc=…
That same dispensa also proves that Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava was
the son of Cristóbal de Villalobos and María Pérez de Nava married 19 Oct
1594
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11174-910-34?cc=1615259&wc=1…
[margin]
velados xpoval de villa
lovos i ma peres
[body]
En diez y nueve de Octubre de mill y quinientos y nobenta
y quatro años yo El bachiller Joan ugarte aviendose echo
las amonestaciones y de mas diligencias y con
madamiento del provisor y no...de ni
gun ynpedimento despose y di la ben[roto]
nunpciales en esta iglesia a Xpoval [roto]
vz de esta ciudad y natural en la villa de [roto]
en los reynos de castilla hijo de mateo [roto]
vos y de bernardina Lan clares con [roto]
natural desta ciudad hija de Xpoval [roto]
madalena siendo testigos diego muñoz [roto]
...y franco blanco y andres [roto]
From margin in the marriage document we know that the wife's surname is
Pérez and from the body the bride's father's first name is Cristóbal and
the bride's mother's name is torn so it is unreadable but her surname if
Madalena (Magdalena).
There is a marriage record of Cristóbal Pérez and María Magdalena 19 Dic
1577
"En diez y nueve de diziembre de mill quinos y setenta y siete años El
bachiller Diego de Fuentes clerigo presbitero con my licencia desposo
a...Christoval Perez hijo de Hernan de Perez y de Maria Lopez su mujer que
es de Granatula [de Calatrava] jurisdiccion de Almagro ..Castia [Castilla]
y Maria Magdalena hija de Goncalo Magdalena y de Maria Hernandez su mujer
de esta ciudad aviendo...primero hechas en esta iglesia de la beracruz las
diligencias conforme a derecho....Christoval Perez dio información como era
libre de matrimonyo como consta por el mandamiento.......Diego de Fuentes
....hallado presentes Diego de Baeça del....Pedro......Juan Go. Hermosilla
que es de Mexico"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11174-1223-17?cc=1615259&wc=…
Armando
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New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Submitted by mendezdetorres on Mon, 2014-02-17 11:45.
Armando and Christopher,
This Ramos de Oviedo line my line. D. Juan Ramos de Oviedo son of D. Juan Ramos de León and Da. Angela de Leon were from Sorvilán, in the province of Granda, Andalucía, Spain. I descend from his first wife Manuela Ignacia Nepomucena de Villalobos baptized on 14 Nov 1748 in Tabasco (Villa del Refugio). This family would have settled originally in Jalpa, but later when Juan remarried he moved to Aguascalientes. I have several records, including his dispensas that lists him active as a commercialist around Pinos, Aguascalientes, Jalpa, Calvillo, and Tabasco.
Daniel
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Chris, I have to apologize. I incorrectly wrote that Andrés Martín de
Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. I meant to write Joseph
Martín de Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. The tree I
provided correctly has Joseph Martínez (Martín de Sotomayor) as the husband
of Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. Also the dispensa shows it is Joseph
Martín de Sotomayor that married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-86555-8?cc=1874591&wc=…
Armando
New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Sorry Armando, that was my fault. I read the text before looking at the dispensa. It's a great find.
Chris
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From: Armando
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New member introduction (Paige Herrera)
Chris, I have to apologize. I incorrectly wrote that Andrés Martín de
Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. I meant to write Joseph
Martín de Sotomayor married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. The tree I
provided correctly has Joseph Martínez (Martín de Sotomayor) as the husband
of Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar. Also the dispensa shows it is Joseph
Martín de Sotomayor that married Francisca Javiera Romo de Vivar.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18426-86555-8?cc=1874591&wc=…
Armando