Dear Manny,

I felt that it was time to stop adding new information, stop researching other lines, and just focus on writing and publishing a book. I have more than enough information to get the book done but you had to throw a wrench in my plans.

The line that I had put together was based on me trying to make sense of the data in front of me, but since most genealogist had a different line I did not pull more threads since it was only possible in my mind and not proven. When you provided information that debunked the line of the other genealogists you made me look at my information again in a different light because it was no longer an exercise in making sense of what I had before me but the line with the highest probability of being the actual true lineage. This set into motion working all afternoon and night gathering more information and putting all the pieces together. It is so much information, and I need to review it after some sleep, so I won't post the findings at this time. What you have done is made relevant all the the information that I had collected when I had mistakenly believed that Sancho Sanchez el comendador was the same person as Sancho Sanchez Señor de Arnedo. Once it had been proved that they were not the same person, I had felt a sense of loss for all the time I had spent deciphering that tangled ancestral web. But now that time isn't wasted because your information connects one of my family lines to that tangled web. Your one little piece that didn't seem of much importance was the last straw that moved a mountain.

A million thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Manny,

The data you provided, in addition to what we already have, leads me to believe that there is a high probability that we will find The parents of Gonzalo de Avalos Tovar de Villaseñor and Antonia Hurtado de Mendoza in Michoacán records.

Here is a previous post that is about "San Miguel de Los Alva" and also mentions Cristóbal Villaseñor:

By Xayme - Posted on 22 February 2009

While I was in Mexico several years ago I looked desperately this place. Anyone familiar with the area know that there are several "San Miguels" in the "nuestros ranchos" area. I went to all of them. Or at least I thought I did.

It wasn't until I came back to the U.S. did I come in contact with a distant cousin who happens to be a historian for Encarnacion de Diaz. I'm extremely thankful to him for the help he's given me and for his research. He also helped me find THEE San Miguel mentioned in my ancestors records. I also have photos if anyone is interesed. I hope this information can help someone else doing research in the same area.

If you have ties to this place or have more data on it's inhabitants during the 1600s please conatct me. This the part of my research where I have hit a dead end.

The following is an exerpt from an email my cousin Arq. Rodolfo H. Hernandez Ch sent me:
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San Miguel de los Alba is located at the foot of the cerro de los Gallos, in the current municipality of Encarnacion de Diaz, and it is not the same San Miguel that is mentioned in the Llanos del Tecuan, neither is it the same San Miguel that you located in a map and belongs to the state of Queretaro.

El puesto de San Miguel de los Alba was founded at the beginning of the XVII century, when it belonged to Alonso of Alba, married to Doña Leonor de Retamosa, daughter of Nicolas Macias and Leonor de Retamosa who were proprietors of extensive lands in the actual municipality of Encarnación.

This hacienda or puesto de San Miguel de los Alba, depended on the village of the Asuncion de las Aguascalientes and their inhabitants were obligated to be baptized, married and buried in the parish of this village (you can know who lived their by checking the microfilms of the Iglesia del Sagrario de Aguascalientes, corresponding to the XVII and XVIII century). In 1752 a chapel was built dedicated to San Miguel Arcangel in this hacienda, with donations from Miguel de Alba and Cristobal Villaseñor, beginning to beginning to function as a vicariate, carrying books and registrations of baptisms that were made until the year of 1778, date in which said hacienda goes on to form part of the parish of in that passes this country property to be part of the parish of Nuestra Señora de la Encarnacion de los Macias (before named el Sauz de los Macias)

After the death of Don Alonso Alva, his hacienda continued in ownership by his descendants, the Alva family, until the begingings of the century. XX. during this time the residents and surnames grew through marriage connections.

And all were devoted to the agriculture and and cattle raising to supply the trade with the north of the country.
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‹ Cortez Alvaradolocation of San Felipe in Aguascalientes ›

I had originally posted that I was not a descendant of the Villaseñor De Avalos. I was wrong. My ancestor Cristobal Villaseñor is a descendant of a Villaseñor de Avalos line. The other Villaseñor lines, of which there are a few, would not fit the time frame. I had originally only researched other Villaseñor lines. I only started researching the Villaseñor De Avalos connections to help out with Manny's research. This research has been useful in figuring out what I believe are the earliest connection between these two families as Gonzalo De Avalos Villaseñor Tovar could only descend from one of two possible connections as he was born before all the other Villaseñor and De Avalos marriages. This is based on information collected from my Manny's, Chris's, Danny's and my research, and the information in "Retonos de España en la Nueva Galicia" by Mariano Gonzalez Leal. There are many pieces to this puzzle and I believe that I have put together two possible lines of descent.

Marcelina posted different great grandparents from the great grandparents listed by Mariano Gonzalez Leal. She found a tree that someone else had compiled. If the line that Marcelina found is correct then neither one of these two lines is correct.

Here are the two possible lines of descent:

First possible line

1). Alfonso Fernandez Villaseñor and Elvira Osórez (daughter of Fernando Osórez maestro de Santiago)

2). Fernan A. Villaseñor and Aldonza Gutierrez de Tapia

3). Diego Villaseñor alcaide de Segovía married to Maria Serones (Seron)(Seronis)

4). Juan Villaseñor Serones and Elvira de Tovar y Enriquez de Castilla

5). Diego de Villaseñor-Tovar and Isabel Alfonso de Villaseñor

6). Diego Villaseñor-Tovar"de Burgos" (b.1442 and d.1520) and Guiomar de Orosco y Sandoval

7). Juan de Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (b.1500) and Catalina Cervantes y Lara de Andrada

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*8). Diego de Villaseñor-Tovar Orosco (bap 15/Apr/1543 and d.1610) y Cervantes and Jeronima d' Avalos y Gomez (m. abt. 1568)

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9). Gonzalo de Avalos Tovar de Villaseñor and Antonia Hurtado de Mendoza

10) Gonzalo de Villaseñor Cervantes (b. Abt 1621) (m. 26/Sept/1650) and Juana Gomez de Espejo

11). Gonzalo Villaseñor Y Gomez (b. Abt 1660) ( buried 6/Aug/1733) and Teresa de Alva Bocanegra (m. March 1683, Aguascalientes)

12) Cristóbal Villaseñor y Alva ( bap. 7/Sept/1688 Aguascalientes) and Gertrudis Franco de Paredes.

Note: Cristobal had multiple marriages.he was also married to Maria Perez Luxan (Lujan). He may also have been married to Gertrudis Olmedo but I have not confirmed this. If he was married to Gertrudis Olmedo then she would have been the first marriage, with Juana Gertrudis Franco de Paredes the second, and Maria Perez de Luxan (Lujan) being the third marriage.

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Second possible line:

1). Alfonso Fernandez Villaseñor and Elvira Osórez (daughter of Fernando Osórez maestro de Santiago)

2). Fernan A. Villaseñor and Aldonza Gutierrez de Tapia

3). Diego Villaseñor alcaide de Segovía married to Maria Serones (Seron)(Seronis)

4). Juan Villaseñor Serones and Elvira de Tovar y Enriquez de Castilla

5). Diego de Villaseñor-Tovar and Isabel Alfonso de Villaseñor

6). Diego Villaseñor-Tovar"de Burgos" (b.1442 and d.1520) and Guiomar de Orosco y Sandoval

7). Juan de Villaseñor-Tovar y Orosco (b.1500) and Catalina Cervantes y Lara de Andrada

8) Juan de Villaseñor Cervantes and Catalina Gonzales Corona (Catalina Corona)

*9). Gonzalo de Villaseñor (b abt 1540) y Cervantes and Maria Zuniga

*10) Gonzalo de Villaseñor Orosco y Zuñiga and Aldonsa de Avalos e Hijar

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11) Gonzalo de Avalos Tovar de Villaseñor and Antonia Hurtado de Mendoza

12). Gonzalo de Villaseñor Cervantes (b. Abt 1621) (m. 26/Sept/1650) and Juana Gomez de Espejo

13) Gonzalo Villaseñor Y Gomez (b. Abt 1660) ( buried 6/Aug/1733) and Teresa de Alva Bocanegra (m. March 1683, Aguascalientes)

14). Cristóbal Villaseñor y Alva ( bap. 7/Sept/1688 Aguascalientes) and" Gertrudis Franco de Paredes. Cristobal had multiple marriages.

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

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Villaseñor D'Avalos and Villaseñor Lomelin connection
Submitted by R.A.Ricci on Fri, 2016-07-08 22:42.
Your welcome Manny and Chris,
I was trying to be helpful without any serious thought that I would be adding or changing information in my tree. It seems that I am being rewarded for helping out. There may be a change in my Villaseñor Lomelin line because of this research.

I have been digging deeper into the Villaseñor and D'Avalos connection. I found some interesting information on the Villaseñor family. This is from a secondary source but the author provides primary sources that I need to go back and check. There is a big implication for my family tree if this information is correct.

I had been researching the Villaseñor and Avalos connection without being a descendant of the Avalos line. I descend from the Villaseñor Lomelin family. In my research of the Avalos and Villaseñor I found that The web of the Avalos and Villaseñor is providing new information that is a little different than some of the information on the Villaseñor that we have taken for granted because genealogists from a long time ago had stated that so and so was the daughter of "Fulano". If this new information is correct, then my ancestor is not the great granddaughter of Luis (Luciano) Lomelin(i) and Maria del Olmo. This new information adds another generation so she is a great great granddaughter of Luis (Luciano) Lomelin(i) and Maria del Olmo. It also adds another generation in my Villaseñor line. I need time to look up all the primary sources to see if this is true. This is going to take some time. It may also ruffle some feathers because two prominent genealogists have different information in their books that many people, myself included, had taken as fact.

If this new information is true then I descend from a second wife of a Villaseñor after his first wife D'Avalos dies, and I am even more closely related to the D'Avalos Villaseñors. Like you said, there is a lot of information to be processed. One D'Avalos and Villaseñor line intermarried for four generations before finally marrying outside of the family.

R.A.Ricci