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Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my work on my family in
Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any information on where and how to star by search in Mexico

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vrenteria

14 years 9 months ago

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Hello everyone, I came across Daniel Mendez Del Camino, thanks to Nuestros Ranchos. He gave me lot's of insights of my ancestors. We are related by Caminos' on my father's and mother's maternal side (they connect with Manuel (del) Camino, son of Mariano I del Camino 1853-1945 sources: Daniel del Camino and es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_del_Camino). Out of Nuestros Ranchos I know more about our Camino's side of the family thanks to Daniel.


I would like to know where I can search more information on my great grandfather Romulo Renteria Garcia's 1896-1984(my father's Paternal side) ancestors.


Thanks in advance,

Vrenteria

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mexicanfhr

16 years 2 months ago

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Cecilia,

This is what I could piece together about your family:

JOSE JUAN OLIVAR married CRESCENCIA PADILLA on 13 Oct 1858 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

They had the following children:

MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Aug 1859 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Mar 1861 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 26 Oct 1862 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

PATRICIA OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 22 Mar 1865 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

REYEZ DE JESUS OLIVAREZ PADILLA was christened on 11 Jan 1867 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

POLICARPIO OLIVAS PADILLA was christened on 30 Jan 1871 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

AURELIO OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 31 Jul 1873 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.

JOSE JESUS OLIVAR was born about 1867 in Coconacas,San Juan De Los Lagos.
JOSE married SILVERIA HENRIQUEZ daughter of SECUNDINO HENRIQUEZ and MARIA DE GRACIA GARCIA on 20 Jan 1892 in Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. SILVERIA was born in Carmente,San Juan De Los Lagos.

I hope that this helps.

Jonathan

thank you so much> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:08:19 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Olivar Family> > > Cecilia,> > This is what I could piece together about your family:> > JOSE JUAN OLIVAR married CRESCENCIA PADILLA on 13 Oct 1858 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > They had the following children:> > MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Aug 1859 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Mar 1861 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 26 Oct 1862 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > PATRICIA OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 22 Mar 1865 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > REYEZ DE JESUS OLIVAREZ PADILLA was christened on 11 Jan 1867 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > POLICARPIO OLIVAS PADILLA was christened on 30 Jan 1871 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Ja
lisco, Mexico. > > AURELIO OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 31 Jul 1873 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > JOSE JESUS OLIVAR was born about 1867 in Coconacas,San Juan De Los Lagos. > JOSE married SILVERIA HENRIQUEZ daughter of SECUNDINO HENRIQUEZ and MARIA DE GRACIA GARCIA on 20 Jan 1892 in Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco, Mexico. SILVERIA was born in Carmente,San Juan De Los Lagos. > > I hope that this helps.> > Jonathan> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

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Angelina Markle

16 years 2 months ago

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Hello Cecilia,

You were asking about your family in Jalostatitlan, Jose Juan Olivar
and Maria Crescencia Padilla married in San Juan de los Logos in 1858.
I've been doing research on my Padilla line and just happen to come
across an entry on FamilySearch.com for:

Maria Engracia Olivar Padilla christened 8-17-1859
to: Jose Juan Olivar and Maria Crescencia in San Juan de los Lagos.

I don't know if that helps, but I will keep an eye out for this
couple. And, welcome to the group.

-Angelina-

>
> Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting
> my work on my family in Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this
> and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather
> Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De
> Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find
> there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope
> for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much
> about G grandfather Tomas
> Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any
> information on where and how to star by search in Mexico

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dpdelgadol

16 years 2 months ago

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Hi Cecilia,

Out of curiosity I searched and found the following. They seem to be baptism records of the couple whose name you mentioned. Welcome to Ranchos and good luck.

MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening 17 AUG 1859
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN OLIVAR,
Mother: CRESENCIA PADILLA
Batch C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film #0220663
 
EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 17 MAR 1861  
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN DE OLIVAR
Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Batch No.: C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film # 0220663

URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 26 OCT 1862  
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN OLIVAR
Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Batch No.: C603405, Dates: 1861 - 1863, Film #0220664

David Delgado, Albany, CA

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>
>Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my work on my family in
>Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
>Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any information on where and how to star by search in Mexico

David P. Delgado

Thank you so much for the help, you all are really fast. thanks again> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:16:28 -0700> From: dpdelgado@jps.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > Hi Cecilia,> > Out of curiosity I searched and found the following. They seem to be baptism records of the couple whose name you mentioned. Welcome to Ranchos and good luck.> > MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening 17 AUG 1859 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN OLIVAR, > Mother: CRESENCIA PADILLA> Batch C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film #0220663> > EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 17 MAR 1861 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN DE OLIVAR> Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA> Batch No.: C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film # 0220663> > URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 26 OCT 1862 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN OLIVAR> Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA> Batch No.: C603405, Dates: 1861 - 1863, Film #0220
664> > David Delgado, Albany, CA> > -----Original Message-----> >From: tiffany > >Sent: Aug 19, 2008 6:08 PM> >To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> >Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> >> >> >Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my work on my family in > >Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas> >Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any information on where and how to star by search in Mexico> > > David P. Delgado> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> res
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I am Jose E Aguilar and I am researching my wife's Zacatecas family lines of Maldonado and Cruz. Rafael Maldonado married Toribia Cruz in Villa de Cos Zacatecas in 1855. Toribia was cristened on 3 may 1842 also at Villa de Cos Zac. Toribia Cruz is buried in Encinal Cemetery La Salle County Tx.
Does anyone have any Maldonados and Cruz from Zacatecas in your files.

Appreciated all your responses.

Jose

Hi, my name is Rita. Thank you for allowing me to be a member of your
group.
For about two years,I have been researching my Grandfather's ancestors in
and around Colotlan.
I too have reached my g x grandfather, Plelipe Marquez de los Olibos married
to Francisca Xaviera Sanchez in early 1700.
Other g x grandfathers include, Diego de Santiago married to Bernarda de
Casas
and Bartholome de Cardenas married to Catharina Morillo, also in the early
1700s.
Included in my research are other g x grandparents, Juan Agustin Marquez
married to Juana de Abalos, in early 1700.
Other names in my research are Saldana, Gamboa, Solis, Ramos, Medina,
Vargas, Rivera, Tostado, Guizar,
Briseno, Dimaz, de Aro and Sandoval, just to name a few. Hello to all
my cousins out there.

Once again, thank you,
Lady Ramos

Hi Rita,

Your Medina where are they from?, maybe I can help you

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Rita Navarro wrote:

> Hi, my name is Rita. Thank you for allowing me to be a member of your
> group.
> For about two years,I have been researching my Grandfather's ancestors in
> and around Colotlan.
> I too have reached my g x grandfather, Plelipe Marquez de los Olibos
> married
> to Francisca Xaviera Sanchez in early 1700.
> Other g x grandfathers include, Diego de Santiago married to Bernarda de
> Casas
> and Bartholome de Cardenas married to Catharina Morillo, also in the early
> 1700s.
> Included in my research are other g x grandparents, Juan Agustin Marquez
> married to Juana de Abalos, in early 1700.
> Other names in my research are Saldana, Gamboa, Solis, Ramos, Medina,
> Vargas, Rivera, Tostado, Guizar,
> Briseno, Dimaz, de Aro and Sandoval, just to name a few. Hello to
> all
> my cousins out there.
>
> Once again, thank you,
> Lady Ramos

Hi Rita,

Welcome to the group. I am also searching in and around Colotlan.

I am not sure if you saw the emails from a couple of weeks ago but there was a discussion about Phelipe Marques de los Olivos and Francisca Xaviera Sanchez. They are also my ancestors and if you would like to compare information take a look at my files.

Also, I have done some research on Bartholome de Cardenas and Catharina Morillo. My ancestor Bartholome de Cardenas married to Barbara Gutierres lived during the same time period as your Bartholome. They both were listed as parents on marriage records in Colotlan during the same time period. So I thought they might be one in the same. With one of the women being first wife and the other second wife. I never was able to prove or disprove but I held onto the information just in case... Let me know if you are interested in what I have...

Another surname I am researching is Huizar/Huisar. I have also seen it spelled Guizar/Guisar. What are the names you are looking for?

Good luck on your search,
Angie Godina

Rita Navarro
Hi Angie,
Yes,I saw the article on Phelipe Marques de los Olibos.
Thanks for allowing me to compare information in your files.
In my records I have a Luis Joseph Marquez de los Olibos who married Juana Maria de Aro Sandoval(daughter of Thomas de Aro and Petrona de Sandoval)on May 22, 1754. The records show that Luis Joseph Marquez de los Olibos was the son of Joseph Antonio Marquez de los Olibos and Juana Francisca Gamboa.
source: Matrimonial Records of Tlaltenango,Zac. LDS film # 0443969

Your records show a Pasqual Venacio Marques, son of Joseph Antonio Marquez and Juana Francisca Gamboa. I haven't been able to find him. How did you find him?

I also think that Bartholome de Cardenas was married twice. In my searching I have found a Getrudis de Cardenas, daughter of Bartholo de Cardenas, no mother. Getrudis married Miguel Orosco on 08 Feb 1740 in Colotlan. Getrudis and Miguel were the godparents of baptism on 13 March 1757 in Totatiche, Jalisco for Maria Petra Ramos Cardenas, daughter of Juan Domingo Ramos Casas and Feliciana Victoria de Cardenas Morillo.

My Guizar/Huisar family started with Juan Joseph Romualdo Marquez, son of Juan Agustin Marquez and Juana de Abalos, married to Maria Monica Dimaz on 21 May 1750 in Colotlan. How he came up with the name Guizar is a mystery. The name of Guizar is given as the last name to some of his children.

Thanks for your help,
Rita

Hi Rita,

I found Pasqual Venacio Marques by accident... I was looking for all Marquez and Romero surnames in the film I was viewing. He came up since he is married to a Romero. His name didn't come up when I was searching for Marquez since the name was inputed in as Pasqual Venancio MARQZ. Pasqual's spouse is Margarita ROMERO. They were married on 2 MAY 1773 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. [BATCH NUMBER: M604652; DATES: 1752-1790; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443782] I descend from Feliciano Acencio MARQUES and his wife Albina Victoria ROMERO. They were married on 7 APR 1766 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. [Same Batch Number]

Here is my Bartholome DE CARDENAS information. He was married to Barbara GUTIERRES. They had the following children:

1. Catharina DE CARDENAS who was married to Juan Mathias DE GAETA on 19 Jan 1722 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

2. Maria Antonia DE CARDENAS who was married to Nicolas GODINA, son of Nicolas GODINA and Maria Ana DE LAMAS, on 29 Jan 1732 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

3. Francisco DE CARDENAS who married to Juliana MUNOS LOPEZ, daughter of Joseph MUNOS and Melchora de los Reies LOPEZ BRAVO, on 24 May 1734 in Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico.

4. Maria Rosa DE CARDENAS who was married to Miguel FERNANDEZ, son of Nicolas FERNANDEZ and Josepha TOSTADO, on 6 Oct 1735 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

5. Juan Mathias DE CARDENAS who was married to Luiza Theresa MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS, daughter of Francisco MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS and Theresa RAMIREZ DE LA ROSA, on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

6. Christobal de los Santos DE CARDENAS who was married to Antonia Petronila MARQUES RAMIREZ, daughter of Francisco MARQUES DE LOS OLIBOS and Theresa RAMIREZ DE LA ROSA, on 12 Jun 1740 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

I descend from Juan Mathias CARDENAS and Catharina CARDENAS. I need to check the marriage docs and see whether or not it mentions if Bartholome DE CARDENAS or Barbara GUTIERRES were alive at the time of children cermonies.

I have temporarily misplaced the information I saved on the 'other' Bartholome married to Catarina Morillo. So I'll get back to you on that.

Thanks,
Angie

Angie,

Thanks, I found Pasqual Venacio MARQZ. I descend from Feliciano's
brother, Luis Joseph MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIBOS and his wife, Juana Maria DE ARO.
They were married on 22 May 1754, in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
Zacatecas, Mexico. (Source: Film # 0443969; Dates: 1754-1769; Batch:
M607141 )

Here is my information on Bartholome DE CARDENAS. He was married to
Catharina MORILLO. They had the following children:

1. Diego DE CARDENAS who married Maria Magdalena DE LA O, daughter of Onofre
DE LA O and Josepha PERES, on 01 Mar 1729 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco,
Mexico.

2. Feliciana Victoria DE CARDENAS who married Juan Domingo Ramos, son of
Diego DE SANTIAGO and Bernarda DE CASAS, on 15 Feb 1733 in San Luis,
Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
Note: According to the marriage document of Feliciana and Juan Domingo in
1733, Bartholome was deceased.
(Source: Film # 0443671; Dates: 1718-1743; Batch: M604651 )
I descend from Feliciana DE CARDENAS and Juan Domingo RAMOS.

Note about Feliciano Acencio MARQUEZ and Albina Victoria ROMERO:
They were the godparents of Dominga Josepha Guisar, daughter of Juan Joseph
Romualdo GUISAR and Monica DIMAS, baptized on 15 Jul 1773 in San Luis,
Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. I descend from Juan and Monica's son, Apolonio.

Thanks again,
Rita

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arturoramos

16 years 2 months ago

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Cecilia;

Welcome to the group! I am glad that you took the initiative to pose your inquiry right out there. That is what we are all here for, to help each other on our quest to find out ancestors.

As far as your GG grandparents, they are certainly indexed in the LDS databases, as the Altos area has very good records and they have almost all been indexed. I found your GG grandparents marriage on IGI:

CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Marriages:
Spouse: JUAN OLIVAR
Marriage: 13 OCT 1858
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: M603414 Film No. 0220711

Unfortunately the IGI extract is not very complete and is missing the parents names so that will require that you head down to your nearest Family History Center and order the film so you can look up the record and see who their parents were. You can check our film database and see if another member has the film on indefinite loan and might be willing to do the look up and transcription for you.

Good luck.

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Rodriguez de Frias

16 years 2 months ago

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Hola Cecilia,

Bienvenida, si en algo te puedo ayudar en la region de Jalos, San Miguel,
Valle, Tepa, etc me avisas.

Saludos,

Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco

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Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my
work on my family in
Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all
help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria
Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info
from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened
along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I
also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any
information on where and how to star by search in Mexico

So good to hear from you Ricardo, I really don't know where to start my family search in Jalos. We may still have family living in Jalos, but I am not sure. I have been trying to get information from my family and realitives, but know real help yet. The family name is Olivar
Thank you so much
Cecilia
> From: rickrod.com@gmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:35:41 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > Hola Cecilia,> > Bienvenida, si en algo te puedo ayudar en la region de Jalos, San Miguel,> Valle, Tepa, etc me avisas.> > Saludos,> > Ricardo Rodriguez> Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco> > > > -----Mensaje original-----> De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de tiffany> Enviado el: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:09 PM> Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > > Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my> work on my family in > Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all> help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria> Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info> from the LDS sight and find there is not
a lot of info there and happened> along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I> also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas> Villalobos and his wife Carmen De Los Santos. Thank You for any> information on where and how to star by search in Mexico> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org

Ruth Olivar Millan ...I am new to this site. I have been working on my family tree for over 30 years....and my have enough information to answer some of your questions. I have used many resources and can help you cross references including
Church records, vital statistics, ship records Portuguese Angola , land grants, government information during the Spanish inquisition etc. WIth your help maybe I can get it done for my son, and my grand child before I die.

Joseana Padilla and Narcisa Alvarez are my great great grand parents

J. Juan Olivar and Cresencia Padilla are my greatgrand parents

I have some information up to now and passed relatives On both side of our tree.
contact me so me can cross reference.
Ruth Olivar Millan

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Hi Ruth, I am glad you have joined our group! I am asking where were you able to find Portuguese ship records of pasage etc. I have some portuguese on my father's side of the family. Also land grants, Ive been looking like crazy but without results. Many Thanks,

Daniel Méndez del Camino

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Ruth Olivar Millan

I have a picture of Mariaengracia Olivar (First child of Cresencia Padilla and Juan Olivar San Juan de los lagos Jalisco Oldest sister of Jose Ana Olivar)with the older children of Jose Ana Olivar and Cresenciana Gutierrez. Around 1923 Nebraska before the family was deported back to Mexico in trains 1930 at the Great Depression. I just can't uploaded.
Does any one know how to add pictures to this site?
Thanks,
Ruth Olivar Millan

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Ruth Olivar Millan

Ricardo , who were your parents? Who were your grand parents?

I have information.....that you may be interested in.

Ruth Olivar
Daughter of J. Luciano Olivar
Grand daughter of Jose Ana Olivar
Great Grand child of J.Juan Olivar and Cresencia Padilla
Great Great Grand Child of Joseana Padilla and Narcissa Alvarez (albares)

I can go further back.
Ruth Olivar

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