Hi all--
Does anyone know who the parents of Gertrudis Díaz de León are? She married Juan Álvarez-Tostado circa 1708 either in Teocaltiche or Nochistlan. I am her descendent via her daughter Ana Álvarez-Tostado who married Miguel Antonio Márquez de los Olivos in 1751, Jalostotitlan.
Any leads will be appreciated. Thanks!
,marriage date Gertrudis Diaz De Leon and Juan Alvarez-Tostado
The marriage year was 1708 exactly. I found the record a few years ago. When I lost a lot of information when my computer crashed and my flash drive back up was stolen in the same week I also lost the exact date. If I remember correctly it was at the very bottom of a page, and just a couple of lines. That is why everyone has missed it. I will go back this weekend and try to find the exact date. I think I may have given that information to Miggy Gutierrez so he may have the exact date.
R A Ricci
Gertrudis Diaz de Leon
THANKS Rick, Raquel and Lisa! Much appreciated. :)
Saludos,
Claudia
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Gertrudis Diaz de Leon
You are very welcome. I have not proven who her father's ( jose de leon) parents are.
Rick A Ricci
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THANKS Rick, Raquel and Lisa! Much appreciated. :)
Saludos,
Claudia
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Jose Diaz de Leon & Antonia Delgadillo
Hello Rick,
Did you ever find the parents of Jose Diaz de Leon, married to Antonia Delgadillo?
I believe Jose Diaz and Antonia Delgadillo are the parents of my g6, Maria Guadalupe Diaz de Leon, who was married to Francisco Diego Carrillo Lisardi. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18622-38291-32?cc=1874591&wc…
Their daughter, Maria Estefania Gertrudis Carrillo, married Andres Diaz de Leon-Duron, 25 Mar 1743: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-26036-84?cc=1804458&wc…
Andres Diaz & Maria Carrillo were at 3o grado and required a dispensation, which I still haven't found. Since the bride's mother is also Diaz de Leon, I assumed the 3o grado was in that line, so their shared great-grandparents would be Juan Diaz and Jacinta de Sotomayor. I couldn't find any records for these individuals to verify this, but I have found some dispensas and other records, which do support it. If you've found his parents, maybe you can confirm my findings? If you haven't, maybe you or someone has some documents which can support them?
I've been brickwalled on my g6s Francisco Diego Carrillo Lisaldi and Maria Guadalupe Diaz de Leon for a while. The other day, I found this, and it knocked some bricks loose. It's a Mar 1777 dispensa for one of Andres Diaz & Maria Carrillo's daughters, Angela Romualda Diaz, for her marriage to Cristobal Delgadillo, with whom she shared consanguinity in 2 lines:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33340-20542-19?cc=1937239…
TRONCO Jacinto Diaz de Leon (m. Sebastiana Gil)
Andres Diaz -G1- Jacinta Diaz
(Dionicia Duron) (Miguel Delgadillo)
Andres Diaz -G2 - Dionicio Delgadillo
(Maria Carrillo) (Manuela Contreras)
Angela Romualda - G3- Cristobal Delgadillo
TRONCO Miguel (Juan) Delgadillo (m. Elvira Martinez de Alarcon)
Miguel Delgadillo -G1- Antonia Delgadillo
(Jacinta Diaz) (Jose Diaz)
Dionicio Delgadillo -G2- Maria Diaz
(Manuela Contreras) (Francisco Carrillo)
Cristobal Delgadillo -G3- Maria Carrillo
(Andres Diaz)
G4- Angela Romualda
I already had Jose Diaz de Leon in my tree, but not his spouse; he's listed in this dispensa for Jose Guadalupe Montanez & Maria Seferina de Silva, 03 Jun 1788: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-104325-89?cc=1874591&w…
Antonio Diaz -hmnos - Jose Diaz
(Teresa Ruiz Lisardi) (Antonia Delgadillo)
Jose Diaz -G2- Maria Diaz
(Lugarda Calderon) (Francisco Carrillo)
Anna Antonia Diaz -G3- Margarita Carrillo
(Juan Montanez) (Juan Esteban de Silva)
Jose Guadalupe -G4- Seferina de Silva
Antonio Diaz de Leon was the son of Juan Diaz de Leon and Jacinta de Sotomayor, here's the IM for his marriage to Teresa Ruiz Lisardi: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11085-33351-60?cc=1502404&…
Jose Diaz & Antonia Delgadillo had a son, Jose Diaz, who married Maria Dolores Lopez, 04 May 1749, in Cienega de Mata. According to their marriage record, they were at 2o grado and required a dispensation: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18622-38988-26?cc=1874591&wc…
I still haven't found the dispensa, but Maria Dolores Lopez was the daughter of Felix Lopez, who was the son of Capitan Augustin Lopez de Cerda and Maria de Yslas y Sotomayor; this Maria de Yslas was the daughter of Andres Martin Camacho and Maria de Yslas y Moctezuma, who were also the parents of Jacinta Martin de Sotomayor, wife of Juan Diaz de Leon-Ortega.
Thus, Jose Diaz de Leon, who was married to Maria Antonia Delgadillo-Martinez de Alarcon, was the son of Juan Diaz de Leon and Jacinta de Sotomayor. He might have been born in San Felipe, Guanajuato, where my g7 Jacinto Diaz was born, in 1652. Andres Diaz was born there a year later, I have no other baptismal records for this family, so I don't know where Juan and Jacinta went from there.
Do your records reflect this?
And I'm lost on Francisco Diego Carrillo Lisardi; their marriage record said they did their informaciones in 2 parishes - Cienega de Mata and Pinos, where they both lived, on Real de Angeles. I've searched both data bases at the LDS site, and I've still not found them. She was probably born in Nochistlan, around 1708. They both lived on Real de Angeles, in Pinos, for some time before getting married. I have them having a daughter born before their marriage date - on whose baptism document lists her as "legitima." Elena Josepha Carrillo was baptized 04 Mar 1726, on Angeles in Pinos: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15233-34109-44?cc=1804458&wc…
Another daughter, Maria Trinidad, married Juan Navarro, 23 Apr 1739, in Pinos, also on Angeles; if she was born legitimate, she would've been 10 years old. Possible but not probable,
especially since she gave birth a year later: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-26038-82?cc=1804458&wc…
"Carrillo Lisardi" appeared on the marriage document for one of their sons, Jose Antonio,https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5FZ-VZJ
and in the lower right panel: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-29272-2?cc=1804458&wc=…
So I'm wondering how he's linked to that dynasty.
Thanks for any assistance in advance. And thank all of you for establishing the parentesco of Antonia Delgadillo-Martinez de Alarcon: I was able to locate lots of relevant documents to establish parentesco. I may have some questions regarding the Martinez de Alarcon and associated lines, but I'll save those for another time.
Un cordial saludo, su primo
Manny Diez Hermosillo
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jrefugioghermosillo
Jose Diaz de Leon's parents
Congratulations Manny,
I have spent many hours looking for this info and never confirmed it. I suspected but had no luck. I was right in identifying his father but never could confirm it because I thought he was from the first marriage.
I thought I was wrong and you were right when I first read your email but a couple of hours later as I was taking a shower I thought about why I had originally placed him with the first wife and came up the idea that this was another time where a dispensation incorrectly places the second wife as the mother. Many years ago I had an ancestor who was incorrectly placed by many genealogist because of faulty record. When she married her stepfather was listed as her father. Her father had died when she was young and had left another child also. It was clear that after going over all the available data that she was the biological daughter of the first husband, a Martin dell Campo, and not of her mothers second husband who had raised her. Many genealogist had doubts when I first pointed this out but more data became available confirming my information.
I went to bed thinking that you were probably right but that we just needed to check our info just to make sure. Your information does confirm who his father is. We just have to look at any other data that may place him as the biological son of the first wife. Just to make sure.
I looked over my data and I feel that you are indeed correct, that he descends from the second wife. Again I say CONGRATULATIONS, you did hit the jackpot.
The diaz de Leon family was all over the place. If I remember correctly, they originally came from Aguascalientes with some records in Zacatecas, Jalostotitlan , Guanajuato, with some moving back to Aguascalientes. There was even a branch that moved from Aguascalientes to Durango and then followed other family members to Nochistlan Zacatecas.
Thank you very much for this info
Your primo,
Rick A Ricci
PS I will look into Your Francisco Diego Carillo Lizardi line soon to help you out. Right now I am little tied up unraveling and gathering Villasenor-Lomellini lines. I will also go back and get info on the martinez alarcon lines for you when you are ready.
Thanks again
Jose Diaz de Leon's parents
Thanks, I just need to find that dispensa for Andres Diaz and Maria Carrillo - for all I know, the 3o grado might have been through the other lines! I'm still digging for it.
Up to now, I haven't done any deep research on my Diaz de Leon lines, I have no idea who the genearca in Nueva Galicia was. I have my line starting in Pinos in the early to mid-1600s, and then move around, as you mentioned. Juan Diaz and Francisca Ortega are at the top of my tree, and the only mention I have of them is in Juan Diaz & Jacinta Sotomayor's 1648 IM, in Pinos:
I. Juan Diaz de Leon, m. Francisca de Ortega
II. Juan Diaz de Leon, m. Jacinta de Sotomayor; IM Aug 1648, Pinos: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15245-22471-68?cc=1804458&wc…
III. Jacinto Diaz de Leon, m. Sebastiana Gil de la Mancha; m. 25 Feb 1675, Aguascalientes, PN: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12446-30237-65?cc=1502404&…
IV. Andres Diaz de Leon, m. Dionicia Duron Gutierrez; Dispensa, 01 Apr 1728, Pinos. Source: Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara Expedientes…, p. 266/1460
V. Andres Diaz de Leon, m. Maria Estefania Carrillo m. 25 Mar 1743, Pinos. PN: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-26036-84?cc=1804458&wc…
VI. Juana Dorothea Diaz de Leon, m. Vicente Gonzalez de Hermosillo, m. Jan 1764, Pinos, IM: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15243-320-34?cc=1804458&wc=M…
Questions regarding the Delgadillo & Martinez de Alarcon lines:
Diego Delgadillo, m. Ysabel Calderon Orosco; do you have their parentesco? Would this Diego Delgadillo be descended from Juan de Padilla y Delgadillo & Petrona de Vaulus y Siordia?
Juan Delgadillo, m. Maria Concepcion Gonzalez de Yslas Renteria. Is she a child of Bernardino de Yslas & Mariana de Sandoval? The timelines don't seem to fit and I'm having problems tracking her. She is mentioned in "Sagrada Mitra Expedientes," in a dispensa for Onofre Joseph de Herrera & Manuela Gonzalez. She had a sister named Elvira de Yslas, who had a son named Salvador Gonzalez, who was married to Rosa de Anda Altamirano:
<< Jalostotitlán. Jal. Marzo 28 de 1731. Exp. 102 - Dispensa de cuarto con tercero grado de consanguinidad. - Onofre Joseph de Herrera, vecino de la feligresía de Tepatitlán. español de 31 años de edad, hijo legítimo de Gerónimo de Herrera, difunto y de Augustina Rosa Delgadillo: con Manuela González, española de 26 años de edad, vecina de este pueblo de Xalostotitlán. hija legítima de Salvador González y de Doña Rosa de Anda Altamirano, difuntos, vecinos que fueron del pueblo de Teocaltiche. Declaración de Juan González, español de 52 años de edad, hermano de la pretensa: Doña María de la Concepción Islas, bisabuela del pretenso, y Doña Elvira de Islas, abuela de la pretensa, fueron hermanas que es primer grado, y de Doña María Concepción, procedió Diego Delgadillo, abuelo del pretenso, y de Doña Elvira, procedió Salvador González, padre de la pretensa, y estos fueron primos hermanos que es segundo grado. Y de Diego Delgadillo, procedió Augustina Rosa Delgadillo, madre del pretenso, y de Salvador González, procedió Doña Manuela González, pretensa, y éstas son primas segundas que es tercero grado. Se otorgó la dispensa en la Ciudad de Guadalajara. en 5 de abnl de 1731. 19fojas. Source: Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara. Rollo 167990 O A H 2352 pt. 4. Matrimonios Hojas Suelus. 1709-1746. 28 de marzo de 1731 p. 195/1050 >>
And finally, Miguel Martinez de Alarcon; was he a peninsular? That's a whole new surname for me! I already had the others in my lines. Time to start digging.
Thanks! And I'm loving your recent posts on Lomelin/Lomellini - I don't have them in my lines (yet), and they have such a colorful history. Keep up the great work, it's inspirational as well as informative!
Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/jrefugioghermosillo
Delgadillos
First. Juan Delgadilo is the son of Diego Delgadillo and Isabel Calderon. According to Mary Lou Montagna, Maria de la Concepcion de Yslas is the daughter of Francisco Gonzalez Martinez. Other genealogist have stated that she is the daughter of Bernardino de Yslas. Unless proven otherwise, I would go with Mary Lou's statement.
Second Agustina Rosa Delgadillo is also known as Secundina (Secuntina) de la Rosa Delgadillo. She was married on 28jul1692 in Nochistlan, Zacatecas.
Third, I don't have diego Delgadillos parents
Fourth I don't know Miguel Martnez de Alarcons parents. I believe that he is a peninsular.
I will keep looking and I will inform you if I find new data.
Many thanks for the appreciative comments,
Rick A Ricci
Martinez de Alarcon
Hi Manny
I just found out that the Martinez de Alarcon family sometimes used a different variation of the name and that many were known as Ruiz de Alarcon. Hopefully this information can help us go further back on the Miguel Martinez Alarcon and Josefa Bautista de Rubalcava line.
From a couple of descriptions I found of a possible relative of Miguel Martinez de Alarcon :
"Juan Ruiz de Alarcon y Mendoza (1581-1639). Mexico. Nacio en Mexico y vivio gran parte de su vida en Espana. Era hijo de Pedro Ruiz de Alarcon y Leonor de Mendoza, ambos con antepasados de la nobleza. Estudio abogacia en la Real y Pontificia Universidad de la Ciudad de Mexico y a comienzos del siglo xvii viajo a Espana donde obtuvo el titulo de bachiller de canones en la Universidad de Salamanca. Ejercio como abogado en Sevilla (1606) y regreso a Mexico a terminar sus estudios de leyes en 1608. En 1614 volvio otra vez a Espana y trabajo como relator del Consejo de Indias. Era deforme (jorobado de pecho y espalda) por lo que fue objeto de numerosas burlas de escritores contemporaneos como Francisco de Quevedo, que lo llamaba corcovilla, Felix Lope de Vega y Pedro Calderon de la Barca."
From another source "Alarcón was born in Mexico, but lived many years in Spain. This dual citizenship allowed him to be famous as the first Mexican writer known outside his own country while at the same time being accepted as one of the elite group of writers who powered the Siglo de oro literary expression in Spain."
Pedro Ruiz de Alarcon had four sons.
Another posting:
"Ruiz de Alarcón is a Spanish noble name. The name Alarcón was first given to Ferrán Martínez de Ceballos by Alfonso VIII of Castile after the former had successfully driven the Moors from the fortress of Alarcón near Cuenca in 1177. His son's name was Ruí de Alarcón and later, in the thirteenth century, his descendants took the name Ruíz de Alarcón to distinguish themselves from other branches of the Alarcón family. The most famous member of the Ruiz de Alarcón family is the 17th century playwright Juan Ruiz de Alarcón.[1] Juan's brother Hernando Ruíz de Alarcón y Mendoza, who was a priest in Taxco, is known for having written a treatise documenting the non-Christian religious practices of the Nahua Indians of central Mexico."
Leonor Mendoza y Mendoza provides another possible link to Isabela Mendoza,
Happy new year primo
R.A.Ricci
Martínez de Alarcón-Ruíz de Alarcón
Hello R.A. Ricci and the rest of primos
There may be some relation between the Martínez de Alarcón and the Ruíz de Alarcón but if that´s true the connection must be very far away in time because I´ve done some research regarding the Ruíz de Alarcón and so far I haven´t seen any Martínez de Alarcón appearing in this family history.
The name Alarcón effectively first appears in 1177 when Fernán Martínez de Ceballos wins the fortress of Alarcón from the moors and is Awarded "señorío" over that fortress by Alfonso VIII, but he was already a member of high nobility because he was the son of Martín Fernández de Ceballos y Armengol, descendant of the Counts of Armengol , and grandson of García Ordoñez Count of Cabra and Elvira de Castilla.
Fernán Martínez de Ceballos Señor de Alarcón married his niece Elvira Ruíz Gutiérrez de Ceballos and they had a son named Rodrigo Fernández de Alarcón whose great great grandson was Martín Ruíz de alarcón 2nd Sr. de Valverde and Talayuelas who married around 1350 Francisca Fernández de Villodre and theay had three sons who originated some famous families :
Álvaro Ruíz de alarcón originated the line of the "Señores de Almodóvar"
Fernán Ruíz de alarcón, originated the line of the "Señores de Huelmecez"
Garcí Ruíz de Alarcón, originated initially the line of the "Señores de Buenache", and from this last line come the lines of the "Counts of Vallsiciliana",the line of the "Counts of Valverde",the line of the "Alarcones de Carrión", the line of the "Virreyes Ruíz de Velasco", and the line of the playwriter "Juan Ruíz de Alarcón".
This line of Garcí Ruíz de Alarcón is very interesting because it originated many famous families, for instance the family of the Virreyes Luis de Velasco (father and son)whose family connected with the Viveros-Cano-Moctezumas and ultimately with the noble House of Lancaster; it is also interesting because there´s information that the virreyes and almost all of this line had Jew blood but somehow they managed to hide it so succsefully that they obtained the titles of Virreyes of New Spain.
Ruiz de Alarcon and the Velasco
To Carlos Peredo
Thank you for the information. Just as the line that descended from Rui de Alarcon took the name Ruiz de Alarcon, I believe that some of the other branches descended from Martin de Alarcon and took the last name Martinez de Alarcon. This was easy to do as they turned their ancestors first name Martin into the last name Martinez. Martin and Rui were common names in this family.
As to the jewish blood in the Velasco family, this was not always a secret as they admitted to be descendants of the house of David. Since this was considered to be Mary's family then they were allowed to state that they came from old Christian families. One of the kings addressed this issue with a statement. I believe that a church official also made a statement concerning the descent from Mary's family, the house of David. There is a long line that shows this Spanish jewish family going all the way back to the time of Mary showing them to be from the house that claimed descent from David.
I agree with you that at this time we do not know if and where Miguel Martinez de Alarcon hooks up with these Ruiz de Alarcon, or with the other Martinez de Alarcon that are distant cousins of the Ruiz de Alarcon. I have not been successful in finding out who his parents are.
I was surprised to find more Mendozas in Mexico that could possibly help in the search for Isabel Hurtado de Mendozas parents. The Mendozas in the ruiz de Alarcon line had a daughter named Isabel Mendoza but I have not found any information on her yet as no husband is identified. As to Juan Ruiz de Alarcons ancestry, Leonor descended from the Mendoza through both parents as she was Leonor Mendoza y Mendoza.
Thanks again Carlos
R.A.Ricci
Re: Martinez de Alarcon
Hi Rick,
I'm sorry I hadn't noticed your post earlier. I've had Miguel Martinez de Alarcon & Josepha Baptista on my backburner. I do have some of their children being confirmed 16 May 1634, when Bishop Leonel Cervantes visited Teocaltiche:
Ysabel (padrino Lorenzo Alvarez)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19046-22645-3?cc=1874591&wc=…
Mariana ( m. Petronila de Siordia)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19046-22692-24?cc=1874591&wc…
Miguel (p. Lazaro Martin)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19046-22692-24?cc=1874591&wc…
Here's their son, Miguel Martinez de Alarcon, as notario nombrado on the IM for Juan Estrada & Margarita Ortega, 16 Mar 1659, Nochistlan (Jhoan Delgadillo-Calderon, Juan Yrungaray and Juan Rodriguez de Frias-Amaya are testigos):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18564-63155-17?cc=1874591&wc…
On the marriage record for Joseph Martinez de Alarcon & Petrona de Yslas Sandoval, 02 Feb 1668 Nochistlan, it names Miguel as a testigo, and he's listed as "Licenciado Miguel Martinez de Alarcon Presbitero, ermano del desposado"
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15188-1283-36?cc=1804458&wc=…
Would you know if Petrona de Yslas Sandova (married Joseph Martinez) was a daughter of DIego Gonzalez de Yslas and Cecilia Vasquez? The surnames correspond, and I know she's not daughter of his brother, Bernardino, since that one married Diego Delgadillo.
Gracias y saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo
Dispensa for Joseph Diaz de Leon and Maria Dolores Lopez
Hi Rick,
In case you don't already have it, here's the 10 Jan 1729 dispensa for Joseph Diaz de Leon and Maria Dolores Lopez de la Cerda. This confirms that Joseph Diaz de Leon (m. Antonia Delgadillo) was the son of Juan Diaz de Leon and Jacinta Martinez de Sotomayor:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-X3F6-7?i=343&wc=12512716&c…
As for the ancestry of Miguel Martinez de Alarcon, I've been looking for the first orders of his son, Miguel, which hopefully has a limpieza de sangre, but I haven't been able to locate it.
Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo
Final confirmation of Jose Diaz de Leon's parents
Hello Manny,
I did not have the 10 Jan 1729 dispensa for Joseph Diaz de Leon and Maria Dolores Lopez de la Cerda that confirms that Joseph Diaz de Leon (m. Antonia Delgadillo) was the son of Juan Diaz de Leon and Jacinta Martinez de Sotomayor:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-X3F6-7?i=343&wc=12512716&c…
Thank you very much for providing this final confirmation,
Rick A. Ricci
P..S. Please send me your email so that I may keep you up to date on other branches that we share that I have been working on.
Juan Diaz de Leon: Minero
Hola primos,
I found Juan Diaz de Leon registering some mines in the San Luis Potosi registry. The mines were located in Ntra Señora de la Concepcion de Sierra de Pinos, and he mentions some other miners in the area (Jorge Leal, Diego Delgado, amongst others).
Most interesting is the date: 01 Mar 1604. We had him born around 1589 (re: IM for Gines Carrion m. Antonia Perez Mojica 22 Feb 1651), but that would make him age 15, when these were registered. So, he was either born earlier than we thought, or this is his father?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G58X-S7DY?mode=g&i=15&wc=M…
Saludos,
Manny DIez Hermosillo
Gertrudis Diaz de Leon
1691-1736 Image # is 163 in Nochistlan, right hand side 3rd down.
Gertrudis Díaz de León (m . Juan Álvarez-Tostado)
Gertudis is the daughter of. Of jose diaz de Leon and maria antonia delgadillo. Maria Antonia went by numerous last names including martinez de Alarcon and Gonzalez de Islas besides Delgadillo. I have confirmed that they are all the same person. Maria Antonia Delgadillo is the daughter of Juan Delgadillo and elvira Martinez de alarcon. Juan delgadillo son of juan delgadillo and maria concepcion de islas o gonzalez de Islas Renteria. Elvira is the daughter of Miguel Martinez Alarcon and Josefa Bautista de Rubalcava. The elder juan is the son of Diego delgadillo and Isabel Calderon Orosco. Josefa is the daughjter of Matheo Runbalcava and Geronima Morales
I descend from ana's sister and brother. A friend of mine descends from ana's other marriage.
Rick A Ricci
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Hi all--
Does anyone know who the parents of Gertrudis Díaz de León are? She married Juan Álvarez-Tostado circa 1708 either in Teocaltiche or Nochistlan. I am her descendent via her daughter Ana Álvarez-Tostado who married Miguel Antonio Márquez de los Olivos in 1751, Jalostotitlan.
Any leads will be appreciated. Thanks!
Gertrudis Díaz de León (m . Juan Álvarez-Tostado)
Claudia, one source for the above info is the 19 de enero de 1727
dispensation for mg of Onofre Ruiz and Maria Manuela Alvarez (see pg 45,
last para. *Gen. de Nochistlan...*), where Gertrudis Diaz is laisted as
hija de Anotina Delgadillo, hija de Juan Delgadillo.
Raquel