Stephanie,

was Isabel Martin married in America or Mexico and do you know who she married. Also, Gregoria woman sounds to me like Gregoria is the first name. Also, if this is on a death certificate, I'm not sure I would put a lot of faith in it. it sounds like they really didn't know.

Danny C. Alonso

I took a look at the indexed/extracted records for Isabel Martin, and her family. With the limited info in this post I was unable to find any information on them.

I then thought of looking at the info in your file to see if info there would lead to them. I started with Cresencio Martinez and Felicitas Coronado. I found some errors and omissions in your data, as well as some inconsistencies.

I was using Ancestry.com (Library edition).

I found six children for Francisco Coronado and Emilia Sanchez. Felicitas Coronado was not born 19 Oct 1896, but instead 18 May 1898, in Villa de Cos, Zacatecas. Her brother Francisco was born 19 Oct 1896, Villa de Cos. The Villa de Cos civil records are indexed at Ancestry.com so these are easy to find.

I could not duplicate your info on Cresencio Martinez's birth. I found a Cresencio Martinez born 19 Apr 1893, in Teoquitlan de Corona, Jalisco, son of Jose Maria Martinez and Maria Valenda (not Veleida). This record is in the volume for 1893, image 66.

I found a marriage for a Cresencio Martinez and Maria Felix Coronado on 4 Nov 1914 in Villa de Cos (marriages vol 1909-15, image 417, and vol 1875-1950, images 729-39). Maria Felix's parents are Francisco Coronado and Emilia Sanchez. Cresencio's are different, however: Jose Maria Martinez and Silveria Aguiñaga. Since the date and location are consistent with your info, I think this may be the right marriage. I can see that Felicitas could have been turned into Maria Felix (this could be just an error by the registrar), but I cannot explain the difference in Cresencio's parents names without further study. also, Cresencio is from Ojuelos de Jalisco.

If my info on Cresencio's parents is correct, then a I found a sister of his: Tomasa Martines, b. 26 Dec 1895, Oguelos fe Jalisco, Jalisco,, daughter of Jose Maria Martinez and Silveria Aguiñaga, paternal grandparents Serapio Martinez and Pia Gallegos, maternal grandparents Martin Aguiñaga and Leonarda Aldama.

I found a child of Cresencio and Maria Felix: Antonio Marinez, b. 19 Nov 1915, Villa de Cos. The grandparents are the same as in Cresencio's and Maria Felix's marriage record. I did not find any other children in Zacatecas, perhaps the family left and went elsewhere in Mexico or came to the United States at this time. You may be able to find them in the boarder crossing records. These can be searched at both Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.

I also took a look at the Francisco Coronado/Emilia Sanchez family. The birth records of all their children give the paternal grandmother as Clara Perez, inconsistent with your data. Their marriage record, 6 Aug 1892 (presentation, not marriage), Villa de Cos, however, gives her surname as Hinjosa, consistent with your data. Perhaps she used both. Their actual marriage would have been after Aug 6th, as the "presentation" is similar to the publishing of banns before a church wedding. At this time period you sometimes find both presentation and marriage records, sometimes only one of them, as in this case.

To try to sort this out I looked for Romualdo Coronado's and Clara's marriage record. What I found adds some more confusion. I found both the presentation (14 Feb 1874) and marriage (5 Mar 1874) in Villa de Cos. Romualdo's parents are the same as your information, but Clara is now Maria Clara Gonzalez, daughter of Marcelino Gonzalez and Maria Escalante. I did look further into this family.

What I would suggest at this time is to take another look at your family tree. Record all the information you find, and get copies of all the records you find. From both Ancestry.com and Family Search you can download the images.

Ancestry.com has indexed the Mexican civil records, and the images are linked. Don't rely on the indexes only, as there are sometimes errors. Always read the records.

Family Search is better for the church records. Sometimes (infrequently) images are linked to the indexed church records. The Family Search catalog will tell you which church records in the towns you are interested have been extracted/indexed. Many of the Mexican church records have been extracted/indexed, but there are gaps. Looking at the catalog will also tell you records have been microfilmed. In some towns there are periods of time when the records either do not exist or were not filmed.

I would not rely on Internet posted family trees. They frequently have no sources, or sources with so little identifying information that you cannot locate them for verification. All the dates and places I have provided are from the indexed Civil records at Ancestry.com and are readily found.

While none of this answers your original question about Isabel Martin, hopefully it will aid in your research. If you can provide some more info on her perhaps we can then answer your question.

Please don't hesitate to ask other questions here at Nuestros Ranchos, but please provide detail. We are glad to help.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA