I am trying to help a friend with her family tree. She is descended from Tomas Vital and Ygnacia Gutierrez of Jalisco.
Tomas is the son of Ramon Vital that is some records is listed as Ramon Ybarra y Vital, and sometimes Vital-Ybarra, or Ybarra Alias Vital. Where did Vital change from Ybarra? These people settled in Arandas, Degollado, San Miguel el Alto, San Diego de Alejandria.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
Ybarra alias Vital
Dear Emilie,
My wife descends from Josef Maria Ramon Ybarra Alias Vital, born 1768 in San Pedro Piedragorda, Jalisco and his wife, Anna Maria Plasencia.
She descends from them through their daughter Maria Gertrudis Ibarra Elias Vital, and her husband, Domingo Hernandez-Gamino who married on 23/Dec/1812 in Arandas, Jalisco
Ramon is the son of Juan Jose Ibarra and Josefa Gertrudis Quesada.
Name Jose Tomas Eliaz De Ybarra
Spouse's Name Ygnacia Gutierrez
Event Date 21 Oct 1820
Event Place Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Ramon Elias De Ybarra
Mother's Name Anna Maria Placencia
Spouse's Father's Name Jose Rosalio Gutierrez
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Francisca Diaz
Name Josef Maria Ramon Ibarra
Birth Date 1768
Age 23
Spouse's Name Ana Maria Plasencia
Spouse's Birth Date 1765
Spouse's Age 26
Event Date 14 Dec 1791
Event Place La Inmaculada Concepcion,San Diego De Alejandria,Jalisco,Mexico
Father's Name Juan Josef Ibarra
Mother's Name Josefa Getrudes Quesada
Spouse's Father's Name Vicente Plasencia
Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Marcela Magana
Name Jose Guadalupe Ybarra
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 19 Apr 1848
Event Place Santa María de Guadalupe, Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico
Gender Male
Birth Date 14 Apr 1848
Birthplace Saucito
Father's Name Tomaz Ybarra
Mother's Name Ygnacia Gutierres
Paternal Grandfather's Name Ramon Ybarra
Paternal Grandmother's Name Juana Plasencia
Maternal Grandfather's Name Rozalino Gutierres
Maternal Grandmother's Name Francisca Diaz
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