ORIGEN DE LOS LÓPEZ DE LA CRUZ DE SANTA OLALLA??!

Hola prim@s,

Aquí las informaciones genealógicas del familiar y alguacil mayor del Santo Oficio, Domingo de Onís y Vela, y de su esposa, María Mancina, fechada el 11 oct 1684 en Llerena, minas de Sombrerete: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-WSM4-J?cat=31792&…

María Mancina era de Tlaltenango y bisnieta de Miguel Rivera y Leonor Ortiz, de Guadalajara, esta última hija de Francisco López de la Cruz y Alfonsina de la Paz, naturales de Santa Olalla y vecinos de Guadalajara. Por eso se incluye la probanza de la familia López de la Cruz Haedo (o Ahedo), hecha en Toledo y en Vizcaya en 1616, y en nombre de los hermanos Diego, Alonso, Lorenzo, y Cristóbal López de la Cruz Haedo, y en nombre de Cristóbal López de la Cruz Haedo su sobrino, hijo de su hermano Francisco, ya difunto. Los cinco hermanos eran hijos de Juan de la Cruz, vecino de Santa Olalla: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-W91B-D?cat=31792&…

Se describe cómo su abuelo, Diego López de la Cruz Haedo, hijo de Pedro de la Cruz, señor y dueño de la casa y solar de Haedo, “que está sita en el consejo de Salla, de este valle de Salcedo en las Encartaciones de Vizcaya”, salió del dicho valle en 1522 en compañía de don Lope de Salcedo (señor de la casa de Salcedo y Aranguren) y otros hijosdalgo, para servir al emperador don Carlos V durante la Guerra de las Comunidades, y que dicho Diego López de la Cruz, durante ese tiempo, conoció y se casó con una mujer de Santa Olalla en el obispado de Toledo, donde permaneció, y fueron ellos los padres de Juan de la Cruz.

Aunque no lo dice explícitamente, se puede suponer que el susodicho Francisco López de la Cruz Ahedo, ya difunto en 1616, es el mismo que se casó con Alfonsina de la Paz y que llegó a la Nueva España en 1561. ¿Qué opinan ustedes, mis primos?

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

FRANCISCO DE MONROY
Expediente de información y licencia de pasajero a indias de Francisco de Monroy, natural y vecino de México, hijo de Luis Moreno de Monrroy y de Catalina de la Cruz, a México, con las siguientes personas: - Juana Telo y de la Cruz y Aldo, mujer, natural y vecina de México, - Fernando López de la Cruz Haedo, cuñado, natural y vecino de Toledo, hijo de Lorenzo López de la Cruz y María de Toledo (Lorenzo López fue hijo de Juan de la Cruz y presenta testigos, incluso su hermano Diego López de la Cruz Haedo. Juana Tello y Aedo de la Cruz fue su hija - se casó ella con Francisco de Monroy - hijo de su prima hermana).
https://pares.mcu.es:443/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/147507

Comentario

Como siempre, muchas gracias por compartir estas valiosas y detalladas informaciones.

Anexo a la petición de Domingo de Onís y Vela se encuentra la información de limpieza de su esposa María Mancina que se hizo en el pueblo de Tlaltenango entre los meses de marzo y julio de 1685, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-WSM9-3?cat=31792&….

Los testigos presentados fueron:

  1. El capitán Lucas Rubio Abarca, español, vecino del pueblo de Tlaltenango, de 55 años de edad poco más o menos.
  2. Luis de Luna, español, vecino y natural [haber nacido] del partido de Tlaltenango, de 69 años de edad.
  3. Bartolomé de Luna, español, vecino y natural del partido de Tlaltenango, de 55 años de edad poco más o menos.
  4. Antonio de la O, español, vecino y natural del pueblo de Tlaltenango, de 70 años de edad.
  5. Juan de Moreira, mulato libre, vecino de la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango y natural del pueblo de Tlaltenango, de 48 años de edad. Compadre de Jerónimo de Mancina y Magdalena de Rivera “…por haberle bautizado un hijo a este testigo…”
  6. José Morillo, mulato libre, vecino del partido de Tlaltenango, natural del pueblo de Colotlán de la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango, de 70 años de edad.
  7. Pablo de Casas, español, vecino de San Andrés del Astillero de la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango, de 67 años de edad.
  8. Nicolás Díaz, español, vecino y natural del partido de Tlaltenango, de 60 años de edad.
  9. André Martínez, español, vecino de la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango, de 60 años de edad poco más o menos.
  10. Antonio Yáñez, mestizo, vecino del partido de Tlaltenango de más tiempo de 60 años y natural de la ciudad de Zacatecas, de edad de 80 años más o menos.
  11. Diego de Cisneros, mestizo, natural de la ciudad de Zacatecas y asistente en la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango más tiempo de 65 años, de 87 años de edad, poco más o menos.
  12. Nicolás Carrillo, español, natural de la villa de Jerez de la jurisdicción de Tlaltenango, de 54 años de edad poco más o menos.

También contiene copias de los expedientes de bautismo de María de Mancina: Tlaltenango, 25 de mayo de 1657, padrino Julián Sánchez de la Madriz; y de su madre Magdalena de Rivera: Tlaltenango, 25 de junio [julio] 1632, padrinos Lorenzo de Miramontes y Catalina González, su mujer, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-WSM9-J?cat=31792&i=716&lang=es

Comentario

Gracias Agustín, por registrar los datos de los testigos; estoy seguro de que serán útiles para quienes desciendan de esas personas. Y si lo leí correctamente, no pudieron encontrar el acta de bautismo de Catalina González, esposa de Miguel Ribera: según quienes realizaban las diligencias, los antiguos libros parroquiales se perdieron en una inundación y fueron arrastrados por las corrientes del río, lo que explica por qué no hay registros anteriores a 1626 en Tlaltenango (!!).
Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Comentario

For those who descend from Miguel de Ribera and Leonor Ortiz, here is his testamento: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-696T-5?i=366&cat=… and https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69FL-3?i=136&cat=…

And here, Leonor Ortiz, on behalf of her minor children,  grants power to Geronimo Arias: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-6961-G?i=386&cat=…

And here is Geronimo Arias, acting on their behalf: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69J6-M?i=42&cat=1…

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Comentario

According to the probanza from 1616, the Lopez de la Cruz Haedo line would look like this:

    i.    Pedro de la Cruz, Señor de la Casa y Solar de Haedo (o Ahedo)
    ii.    Diego López de la Cruz cc ?
    iii.    Juan de la Cruz cc ?
    iv.    Francisco, Diego, Alonso, Lorenzo, Cristóbal López de la Cruz Haedo

With the information that I have, this would be Maria Mancina’s descent from Francisco Lopez de la Cruz and Alfonsina de la Paz:

    i.    Juan de la Cruz cc Marina Álvarez
    ii.    Francisco López de la Cruz cc Alfonsina de la Paz
    iii.    Leonor Ortiz cc Miguel de Ribera
    iv.    Miguel de Ribera cc Catalina Gonzalez
    v.    Magdalena Ribera cc Gerónimo Mancina
    vi.    María Mancina cc Domingo de Onís y Vela

It would make sense that Francisco Lopez de la Cruz Haedo and Francisco Lopez de la Cruz cc Alfonsina de la Paz were the same person - why else would they include that probanza in the folder? But chronologically, there are some problems:

1. Francisco Lopez and Alfonsina de la Paz passed to Indies on 28 Apr 1561 with their children, Diego, Maria, and Leonor; already married and with three children, we can calculate - conservatively - that Francisco Lopez was at least 25 years-old in 1561, placing his birth before 1536. In turn, his father, Juan de la Cruz, would had to have been born before 1518 - contradicting what witnesses declared in the probanza, that Juan de la Cruz was born after his father, Diego Lopez de la Cruz, left Vizcaya in 1522.

But in the case of this probanza, as in many, the witnesses were either children or not yet born when the events described occurred (the oldest witness was 95 years-old, so he would’ve been 2 years-old in 1522), and their declarations were usually based on second-hand knowlege. So their accounts are not always 100% accurate. Maybe Diego Lopez de la Cruz was already married and had children before he left Vizcaya in 1522, and his family joined him later in Santa Olalla? We can only guess, since we yet have no documents to verify this.

2. According to the probanza, two of Juan de la Cruz’s sons were Diego and Lorenzo Lopez de la Cruz. As we’ve already established, Francisco Lopez was probably born before 1536. But when his supposed brother, Diego López de la Cruz, was a witness in 1621, he declared that he was over 46 years old (born before 1575), while his brother, Lorenzo, in the same document, said he was over 40 (born before 1581): https://pares.mcu.es:443/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/147507

While the ages given in these documents were clearly ballpark figures, one can always calculate that they were within ten years of the actual age. But even with that margin, at least 30 years would have passed between the births of Francisco and Diego, and 36 between those of Francisco and Lorenzo—their poor mother! Of course, this would be impossible; the only possible explanation is that Juan de la Cruz married twice, and that Francisco Lopez was the son of the first wife, and his brothers, sons of the second wife. But again, we have no documentation to verify this, and this is pure conjecture, since it's possible that Diego and Lorenzo were born much earlier than their statements suggest.

THE WIFE OF JUAN DE LA CRUZ

The name of the wife of Juan de la Cruz is not given in the probanza. When Francisco Lopez de la Cruz left Spain in April 1561, according to his entry in the libro de asientos, he was the son of Juan de la Cruz and Marina Alvarez: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKH-Y9WV-3?i=448&cat=…

But according to this legal dispute, filed in Mexico City in March 1694, Francisco Lopez de la Cruz (cc Alfonsina de la Paz) and Diego Lopez de la Cruz (cc Bernardina de Estrada) were brothers, and sons of Juan de la Cruz and Maria Ana Vasquez, the sources were said to be the testamentos of both Francisco and Diego Lopez de la Cruz: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDN-W8MW?i=273&cat=36…

But I have doubts about the accuracy of this information, since Francisco Lopez de la Cruz and Diego Lopez de la Cruz were not brothers, but father and son, as can be verified by several documents (including the 1631 limpieza of Diego’s daughter, Ana de la Paz, and that of her sons, Francisco and Geronimo Lopez de Guzman, both which are found below). 
So, regarding the name of Francisco Lopez’s mother, I’m more inclined to believe the libro de asientos from 1561, which I consider more reliable, since Francisco Lopez himself would have provided that information, while the other was done 133 years later and in Mexico City, and already shows a discrepancy regarding the relationships. Not to say that there wasn’t a Maria Ana Vasquez, since, as I’ve already pointed out, Juan de la Cruz might have married twice: Maria Ana Vasquez could have been the name of his second wife, no? Again, mere conjecture.

FRANCISCO LOPEZ DE LA CRUZ CC MARIA NÚÑEZ

Gabriel Lopez de Cruz married Ana de la Paz on 3 Feb 1608 in Guadalajara. In 1631, he was named familiar del Santo Oficio: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-C7CG-Q?i=334&cat=…

Their son, Bachiller Francisco Lopez de Guzman, was named familiar that same year, and he and his brother, Geronimo, submited their informaciones: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-C9NZ-J?i=112&cat=…

According to these informaciones, Gabriel Lopez was born in Santa Olalla, Toledo, and he was son of Geronimo Lopez de la Cruz and Lucia Jimenez de Guzman, and Ana de la Paz was born in Guadalajara, daughter of Diego Lopez de la Cruz and Bernardina de Estrada; Gabriel’s paternal grandparents were Francisco Lopez de la Cruz and Maria Núñez, vecinos de Santa Olalla, and Ana de la Paz’s paternal grandparents were Francisco Lopez de la Cruz and Alfonsina de la Paz. One might think that their grandfathers - both named Francisco Lopez de la Cruz, and both natives of Santa Olalla - were the same person, but they weren’t: according to the testimony of Luis Moreno de Monroy (who was married to Catalina Lopez de la Paz), Gabriel Lopez and Ana de la Paz were dispensed at 3o con 4o grado de consanguinidad: if they shared a grandfather, they’d have been dispensed at 2o grado igual. He doesn’t explain the relationship, but the most likely is that Francisco Lopez cc Maria Núñez was the brother of Juan de la Cruz, who was father of Francisco Lopez cc Alfonsina de la Paz. So the two Francisco’s would have been uncle and nephew: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-C7CV-G?i=342&cat=…

     Tronco: Diego Lopez de la Cruz Haedo
           Juan de la Cruz-1-Franco Lopez de la Cruz
  Franco Lopez de la Cruz-2-Geronimo Lopez de la Cruz
Diego Lopez de la Cruz-3-Gabriel Lopez de la Cruz
Ana de la Paz-4-     -     -     -     -

But again, this is conjecture - the relationship could be through another line.

ALFONSINA DE LA PAZ

According to the libro de asientos entry from her 1561 journey to Nueva España, Alfonsina de la Paz was the daughter of Benito Lopez and Catalina Lopez. “De la Paz” is a valid surname, since I’ve seen records of other persons from Santa Olalla with the same surname. Ancestry and FamilySearch are insistent about trying to convince me that her mother, Catalina Lopez, was also called Catalina Goran, who was married to Juan Benito Lopez. Checking the source of that information, I see that it’s a Geneanet tree - unsourced, of course, other than some indexes for baptism records of children born to Juan Benito Lopez and Catalina Goran, residents of Villaverde de Medina, Valladolid. Why are these two couples - who lived in different provinces - believed to be the same persons? Where are the sources for this information? In my opinion, I think it’s a case of someone with an Ancestry or FamilySearch account which “hinted” of another couple with similar names, and somebody decided to merge the two, without verifying whether they were the same persons. And now, the Ancestry and FamilySearch algorhithms are sending that information into the ether, and everyone accepts it as so, because, “if everyone says it’s so, then it nust be so.” Just a reminder: just because a file comes from Geneanet or Ancestry or FamilySearch or GEDCOM does not necessarily mean that the information within is certain: make sure that there are sources - preferably primary (!!!).

ESCUDO DE ARMAS?

According to the informaciones of Gabriel Lopez de la Cruz, his family possessed and used an escudo de armas (seen on image 379: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-C7CZ-X?i=378&cat=…). It’s unclear to whom the escudo was granted, only that it was used by Francisco Lopez de la Cruz (cc Maria Núñez) and his descendants. It’s described as, “… en campo blanco con una banda en medio, Partida en palo, y a la mano derecha dos calderas jironadas amarillas y coloradas, y al otro lado, una banda dorada atrechos y azul, y en medio, una cruz de Calatrava y orlada con cinco quinas.” Though I’m no expert when it comes to crests, the two cauldrons, checkered in yellow and red and containing snakes, are similar to those on the escudo of Santa Olalla, so this escudo was probably granted to the Santa Olalla branch of this family, rather than to the original family from Vizcaya. Francisco Lopez de la Cruz was said to have served as alcalde ordinario of Santa Olalla, and perhaps as familiar, but none of those offices would warrant an escudo; perhaps it was granted to Diego Lopez de la Cruz Haedo, for his services to the emperor? Hopefully someone with more knowlege of heraldry can some day tell us.

Saludos!
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Comentario

These are records relevant to Bachiller Francisco Lopez de la Cruz, son of Francisco Lopez de la Cruz and Alfonsina de la Paz. He was the cura beneficiado del partido de Tlaltenango. His name is seen in various records - in the almoneda de bienes of his mother, Alfonsina de la Paz: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69X3-W?i=303&cat=…, and as a witness for records regarding his siblings: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSDL-69FV-2?i=137&cat=…

Here’s his Informaciones, found at PARES. It’s dated 1600 in Guadalajara, with witness interviews. The document is in pristine condition and is easy to read; it establishes Francisco as son of Francisco cc Alfonsina, and how they were antiguos pobladores of Guadalajara, and gente honrada y principal etc: https://pares.mcu.es:443/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/description/344700

This one is dated 3 Mar 1603, and he appears to be requesting compensation for being beneficiado of Tlaltenango? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSD2-13GX-1?view=explo…

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo