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Castañeda another cousin here

Angie,
It appears that my line is from Diego de los Santos Castaneda & Maria Xacinta de Llamas. I use the word "appears" as I have a glitch down line. I have a paper trail leading to Marcos Castaneda & Lizara Contreras however, when I found their marriage record, Marcos led me to a different line.
 
Then the names of Marcos Castaneda & Lizara Contreras appear in the line of Diego de los Santos Castaneda. I am sooo confused, I need to go over years of research to attempt to decipher the mystery. So, thus the reason I have not posted the information.

Carol and I have been internet buddies for about 4 years now, and most recently have been attempting to find a connection with Eufracia Castaneda Torre. We share many surnames, but have not found a connection so, for now Carol and I are "internet cousins".

I will be happy to share the current information that I have, but need some time to put it in a better format. Perhaps then Joseph will find a link to the world of Castaneda's

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Maria,

It seems you and Carol share the same Castaneda, since she descends 
from Maria Eufrasia CASTANEDA TORRE daughter of Manuel Castañeda and 
Maria Antonia de la Torre, married to Anttonio Casimirio CAMPOS LUNA 
son of Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO and Maria Anttonia DE LUNA.

Here is my Castaneda Line, let me know if you recognize a name:
1. Antonio DE CASTANEDA
  sp: Mariana PEREZ
  2. Aleanando DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Anttonia PEREZ (m.3 Aug 1705)
    3. Christoval Manuel CASTANEDA PEREZ (c.1 Jan 1709-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Hernando Alfonso CASTANEDA PEREZ (c.11 Feb 1714-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Luis DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Ynes DE COVARRUBIAS (m.13 Jul 1711)
  2. Antonio DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Catarina GONSALEZ PONSE (c.29 Jun 1693-Tlaltenango,Zac;m.17 
Nov 1711)
    3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (b.1712-
Tlaltenango,Zacatecas,Mexico)
    3. Andrea CASTANEDA PONSE (c.25 Dec 1713-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Blas DE HERRERA (m.2 Jun 1751)
    3. Mariana Efigenia CASTANEDA PONSE (c.12 Sep

More surnames we need to cross-check!!

Carol,

Let me know when you get a chance to post your other lines.  You only 
currently have the Campos Line posted, right?  Then I'll compare it 
to my files...

I do have all the surnames you listed in my files.

Thanks,
Angie


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Carol Lester  wrote:
> Angie:
 
I was reading your files tonight and came across many other surnames 
we share, and will need to cross check to see if they connect 
somewhere:
 
Besides Campos and Castaneda: De La Torre(s); De Luna; Magallanes; 
Miromontes; Robles; Sanchez;Ulloa; Valensuela.
 
I think there are others too, but  I want to go back through my 
records to make sure what they are.  Also, they are from the same 
areas as your ancestors, and same time period.  Will get back with 
you when i have done some more research.  We absolutely connect!!
 
Regards,
Carol




Robles/Magallanes in Tlaltenango

Here is my Robles and Magallanes line in Tlaltenango.

1. Juan Manuel DE ROBLES
  sp: Maria Lucrecia DE MAGALLANES
  2. Juan Diego ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.12 Mar 1724-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Ysabel Tomasa ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.3 Apr 1725-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Mathias MARTINEZ CORREA GONSALEZ (c.11 Mar 1713-
Tlaltenango,Zac;m.3 Feb 1744)
  2. Luisa ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Aug 1726-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Onofre Josseph DE MIRAMONTES (m.7 May 1753)
  2. Bisente Ferrer ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.18 Apr 1728-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Felisiano ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Jul 1729-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Juan Baptista ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Jun 1733-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Antonia Micaela GUSMAN MUNOS (c.5 Feb 1733-
Tlaltenango,Zac;m.12 Apr 1752)
  2. Maria Dolores ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.2 Apr 1735-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Maria Manuela ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.17 Jan 1741-Tlaltenango,Zac)

- Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mambo King!!!! 
 wrote:
> I have Magallanes and Robles in my

Soto Family in Tlaltenango

The furthest that I can trace my Soto family is in Tlaltenango.

1. Francisco DE SOTO ALMEIDA
  sp: Juana Magdalena DE SALAZAR
  2. Anttonia DE SOTO ALMEIDA
    sp: Juan DE CAMPOS (m.22 Jun 1711)
    3. Geronima CAMPOS SOTO (c.12 Oct 1712-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Thomasa Geronima CAMPOS SOTO (c.23 Jan 1714-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO (c.5 Jun 1715-Tlaltenango,Zac)
      sp: Maria Anttonia DE LUNA (m.17 Feb 1744)
    3. Juan Joseph CAMPOS SOTO (c.20 Feb 1720-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Th. Juachin CAMPOS SOTO (c.28 Sep 1721-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Anttonia Mariana CAMPOS SOTO (c.4 Jul 1723-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Francisco Anttonio Victorino CAMPOS SOTO (c.13 Mar 1725-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Augustin Xavier CAMPOS SOTO (c.28 Apr 1727-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Miguel Maria CAMPOS SOTO (c.4 Dec 1729-Tlaltenango,Zac)
      sp: Petra Regalada MIRAMONTES ULLOA (c.20 May 1755-
Tepechitlan,Zac;m.26 Apr 1775)
    3. Antonio Jasinto CAMPOS SOTO (c.29 Aug 1731-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2

Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

Peggy: What other surnames do you have from Tlaltenango? I have quite a collection of names.
Helyn

Peggy Delgado
wrote:

Southern California/San Gabriel Valley over here!! Parents born and bred in East Los Angeles!!!  However I?m feeling a little left out that y?all get

To make connections with possible ?cousins? because you share surnames.  Isn?t anyone related to Aguirre?s of Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman?!!??!?!

 

 

Peggy Delgado

 

-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes [mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:15 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?

 

Southern California over here.



               ~~glo~~






From: Joseph Puentes
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you in
OH, and TX oh and UT and MA

anyone

Anyone else on the East Coast?

Southern
California/San Gabriel Valley over here!! Parents born and bred in East Los
Angeles!!!  However I’m feeling a
little left out that y’all get

To make
connections with possible “cousins” because you share surnames.  Isn’t anyone related to Aguirre’s of
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman?!!??!?!

 

 

Peggy
Delgado

 

-----Original
Message-----

From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
[mailto:gloriafuentes@...]

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005
3:15 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else
on the East Coast?

 

color:black">Southern California over here. mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";color:black">







              
~~glo~~














From: Joseph Puentes

Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?

Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500



other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you in


OH, and TX oh and UT and MA



anyone else on the East Coast?



joseph





Carol Lester wrote:



>It is so exciting isn't it?!!  As for a

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

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In a message dated 3/9/2005 5:07:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
makas@... writes:


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don't forget that Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda is also a Castaneda
from
Tlaltenango, but we haven't be able to make that connection either.
And
Steven Hernandez is a Miramontes from Tlaltenango. Isn't life
grand?


Helyn is also a Luna - we discovered that we have an Herrera connection
from Tlaltenango and believe that we also have a Luna connection - we're still
working on it.

 

Esperanza

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango Part Two

Joseph, I will fax you the documents for your authorization to allow us to legally adopt you as a "primo hermano de primira clase". You are to be commended for organizing the "groupies". All of the family connections could not have been possible without you. Mil Gracias.
Saludos, Helyn - PS for reunion time, I am located in California somewhere between San Francisco, and San Jose.


Joseph Puentes wrote:

I'm a Castaneda, Miramontes, Rodriguez (mostlikely) and Diaz from
Tlaltenango. . .unfortuneately I don't have a lot of info and trying to
make those connections with the 4 of yall might be somewhere down the
road as in months or even years. But I just wanted you all to know that
I might easily be your primo as well. . .might I suggest you make me an
"HP" in the mean time (honorary primo) and if we find the connection
we'll delete the "H" or if we find proof of "no relation" then we'll
remove both the "H" and the "P"? what do you all think, primas?

joseph

ps: of don't forget

Getting Ready for Salt Lake City

I misunderstood. I thought you meant there were no batch numbers for
the older records. For privacy sake to protect those that still might
be living they stop extracting at a certain point. I have heard 110
years so that would be from 1885 going forward or so, but I might be
wrong as I've also heard 90 years mentioned. The information is
definitely there on the films you can order but just not extracted.
What ever the years are that they say they cover will be found on film.
Just make sure to call ahead so you will be able to find them on the
shelf.



joseph



ps: When are you going again. . .let me know offlist with this answer,
okay?





mexicanfhr wrote:

Alicia,

In reviewing the batch numbers to Nochistlan, there are many batch
numbers for Nochistlan, they go from 1627 to 1875.  1875 to about 1885
seems to be the magic cutoff years, for the extraction program. 

Jonathan



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
  
Joseph, Jonathan and the

Anyone else on the East Coast?

Southern California over here.



              ~~glo~~






From: Joseph Puentes 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you in
OH, and TX oh and UT and MA


anyone else on the East Coast?

joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

It is so exciting isn't it?!! As for a reunion, that would be grand!!! I
live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the ranchos group live in
California, and the surrounding states?

 Carol


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:54 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!

what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I invited? I
might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman reunion.


joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

Hello right back

Anyone else on the East Coast?

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC,
you in OH, and TX oh and UT and MA



anyone else on the East Coast?



joseph





Carol Lester wrote:

It is so exciting isn't it?!!  As for a reunion, that would be
grand!!!  I live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the
ranchos group live in California, and the surrounding states?
 
Carol





-----Original Message-----

From: Joseph Puentes

Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:54 AM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family



Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!



what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I
invited? I might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman
reunion.



joseph





Carol Lester wrote:


Hello right back to you also!!  I just posted a reply to Angie
on the mesage board.   There are many other names that are in her files
that I also have in mine.  I have not put them all into a genealogy
report form as

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

I'm a Castaneda, Miramontes, Rodriguez (mostlikely) and Diaz from
Tlaltenango. . .unfortuneately I don't have a lot of info and trying to
make those connections with the 4 of yall might be somewhere down the
road as in months or even years. But I just wanted you all to know that
I might easily be your primo as well. . .might I suggest you make me an
"HP" in the mean time (honorary primo) and if we find the connection
we'll delete the "H" or if we find proof of "no relation" then we'll
remove both the "H" and the "P"? what do you all think, primas?


joseph

ps: of don't forget that Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda is also a Castaneda
from Tlaltenango, but we haven't be able to make that connection either.
And Steven Hernandez is a Miramontes from Tlaltenango. Isn't life grand?



Carol Lester wrote:

Hello Maria:

I have been working most of the day on all these surnames and I think I may go crazy!!  Anyway..I have all of those surnames and will check yours with  mine and get back

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Hello Maria:

I have been working most of the day on all these surnames and I think I may go crazy!!  Anyway..I have all of those surnames and will check yours with  mine and get back with you...I am sure we will connect somewhere!  Thanks so much for letting me know!

Regards,
Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: readysetgo95814 
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:15 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango



Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:

I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz.  I have some 
direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow.  One 
couple:  Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 16 
Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.  Manuel was the son of 
Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son of 
Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in 
Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz.  I have documented 9 children from the 
marriage of Manuel Castañeda and

Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:

I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz.  I have some 
direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow.  One 
couple:  Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 16 
Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.  Manuel was the son of 
Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son of 
Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in 
Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz.  I have documented 9 children from the 
marriage of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre.  Let me 
know if any of these names tie into one of your lines.

Maria Cortez




Campos Families

I just checked our records for Campos.
We have:
_____________________________________________
Antonia Josephia de CAMPOS m. to Felis Pedro de
MOTA  m. bef 1734  children b. Tlaltenango, Zac.  She is the 9th generation of our pedigree
chart. 
 
Rafaela CAMPOS m. to Juan de Dios ALVARES.  Rafaela
parents are Antonio CAMPOS and Enfracia CASTANEDA.  Their dau Maira Dimas
ALBARES Miramontes was chris 7 May 1800 we have that doc.
 
Juan Manuel de CAMPOS m. to Maria Antonia LUNA 17 Feb 1744
igi.  We will find and print that doc this April 2005 at the FHL in SLC
M607139    -  1704-1754  443968.  Maria Antonia
LUNA is a sister to our Ynes Gertrudes LUNA. 
______________________________________
The only one that is on our Pedigree chart is Antonia
Josephia de CAMPOS. 
 
Rafaela Campos is on the branch of the pedigree chart that
got chopped off about 2 years ago, when we were chasing the wrong Maria de la
Merced Serrano b. 1815 from Momax, Zac. 
 
 
Rich and Kitty
Cortez
Rocklin

de la Torre from Zacatecas

My de la Torre family was from Jerez in the
1600s--Leonor and her sister Agueda were my ancestresses.  Marge
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Campos/Soto Family

It is so exciting isn't it?!!  As for a reunion, that would be grand!!!  I live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the ranchos group live in California, and the surrounding states?
 
Carol


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:54 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!

what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I invited? I might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman reunion.

joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

Hello right back to you also!!  I just posted a reply to Angie on the mesage board.   There are many other names that are in her files that I also have in mine.  I have not put them all into a genealogy report form as yet, but I do have the records!!  And YES!!!, I definately want all the details!  It is so awesome to find "kin"! 
Your Cousin,
Carol
 



-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 11:43 PM
To: ranchos

Campos/Soto Family

Good Morning!
 
Thank you for for e-mail!  To tell you the truth, "Soto" is a surname I have not really researched as yet.  I do know my 5th generation grandfather was Juan De Campos Soto...so his mother was a "Soto". This is in my direct line, and she would be my sixth generation grandmother!  I definately will be researching this line more! 
 
Carol



-----Original Message-----
From: "Josie T. Trevino"
Sent: Nov 20, 2004 3:37 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Hi!   I am doing research on the Soto line out of Tamaulipas in the mid 1800s........does any of this sound familiar?  That is as far as I have gotten on this line but I need to get busy and dig some more.  Did any of your Soto ancestors come from Tamaulipas? 
 
Thanks!
 
Josie Trevino Trevino
San Antonio, TX


From: lareina2@... [mailto:lareina2@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:44 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Thanks, Angie.  Carol

More surnames we need to cross-check!!

I have Magallanes and Robles in my line too, 

Let me know if you need any info.

--- Carol Lester  wrote:

---------------------------------
Angie:
 
I was reading your files tonight and came across many
other surnames we share, and will need to cross check
to see if they connect somewhere:
 
Besides Campos and Castaneda: De La Torre(s); De Luna;
Magallanes; Miromontes; Robles; Sanchez;Ulloa;
Valensuela.
 
I think there are others too, but  I want to go back
through my records to make sure what they are.  Also,
they are from the same areas as your ancestors, and
same time period.  Will get back with you when i have
done some more research.  We absolutely connect!!
 
Regards,
Carol

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Campos/Soto Family

Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!



what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I
invited? I might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman
reunion.



joseph





Carol Lester wrote:

Hello right back to you also!!  I just posted a reply to Angie
on the mesage board.   There are many other names that are in her files
that I also have in mine.  I have not put them all into a genealogy
report form as yet, but I do have the records!!  And YES!!!, I
definately want all the details!  It is so awesome to find "kin"! 
Your Cousin,
Carol
 






-----Original Message-----

From: lareina2@...

Sent: Mar 8, 2005 11:43 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family


Thanks, Angie.  Carol, you are related to
me, since, as Angie noticed, you descend from Juan Manuel Campos, the
son of Juan de Campos and Antonia de Soto Almeyda.  Antonia was the
daughter of Francisco de Soto Almeyda and Juana Magdalena de

Getting Ready for Salt Lake City

Alicia,

In reviewing the batch numbers to Nochistlan, there are many batch
numbers for Nochistlan, they go from 1627 to 1875.  1875 to about 1885
seems to be the magic cutoff years, for the extraction program. 

Jonathan



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> Joseph, Jonathan and the Group,
>  
> In preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the
family history website I find that for my area of research,
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico there is no extracted data to be found
before 1875. 
>  
> My question to the group is could that mean that the records prior
to 1875 were stored some place else under another municipality's name
or could it be that they just haven't been extracted, therefore not on
the IGI database.
>  
> According to the family history catalog, they show the film logs
from the present all the way back to the 1600's with the authors as
Mexico, Zacatecas, Nochistlan-and identify if they're church records
or civil

Campos/Soto Family

Hello right back to you also!!  I just posted a reply to Angie on the mesage board.   There are many other names that are in her files that I also have in mine.  I have not put them all into a genealogy report form as yet, but I do have the records!!  And YES!!!, I definately want all the details!  It is so awesome to find "kin"! 
Your Cousin,
Carol
 



-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 11:43 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Thanks, Angie.  Carol, you are related to me, since, as Angie noticed, you descend from Juan Manuel Campos, the son of Juan de Campos and Antonia de Soto Almeyda.  Antonia was the daughter of Francisco de Soto Almeyda and Juana Magdalena de Salazar, and Antonia was the sister of my ancestor, Diego de Soto Almeyda.  How exciting!  Welcome to ranchos, cousin!  Write to me if you want more details.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ranchos