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Regarding Coat of Arms:
I understand to use a "Coat of Arms" emblem, one has
to have proof that he/she is a direct descendant of a
person that was entitled to use that Coat of Arms.

I've seen a number of Coat of Arms for both sides of
my family, but I do not have proof that any one of my
families were ever entitled to use or claim them.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

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> 
> Victor Villarreal wrote:
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> >Esperanza,
> >
> >Well, it is not so much that this conversation
> would be boring to other members as it is that it
> could easily drift away from the main area of
> interest of the Ranchos group.  Anyway, just to
> reply to your previous post, here are a couple of
> comments.
> >
> >I still don't have a full picture of all the
> historical events related to the first Villarreales
> in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales
> that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in
> mining for precious metals along with other
> historical characters as

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okay this is what I would prefer but not absolutely required.

1) send me a "genealogy report" in .rtf format [go to "view" then to
"genealogy report" then "contents" and then to "number of generations
to show" and limit the generations to your grandparents if they have
passed already. If they are still alive then go to your great
grandparents. keep decreasing the # of generations until you get to a
"report" that has the living excluded].

2) send it to me and I'll make up a folder for you but I need this info:

a) what name do you want each file to have. . .maybe just the Surname
or the Surname and given name of the oldest ancestor?

b) what towns do you want me to include in the description. . .give me
the names of towns included in each report

3) you have time so don't rush. . .if you need more time fine or you
can send in what you have now and later update.

4) I haven't said this to anyone before but I'd really really like for
you to chose the option where your references***

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One Reason We Are Mexicans and Not Indios

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http://www.kporterfield.com/aicttw/articles/disease.html

I was listening to a book on tape this morning at work that is called"Demon in the Freezer" its discusses SmallPox a lot and there was asmall part talking about how in 1520 one Panfilo de Narvaez landed closeto Veracruz and how one of his black slaves came on shore with smallpoxand started an epidemic that spread into the heart of the Aztec empireand eventually made its way all the way to the Inca's in SA. The authorwas making the point that Smallpox "softened" up the continent verylikely giving opportunities that wouldn't have been there without itsdevastating effects.


joseph

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De Narvaez, Panfilo , (1470-1528) Spanish adventurer, born inValladolid in 1470; died in Florida in November, 1528.Panfilo De Narvaez went in his youth to South America, served underseveral adventurers, and in 1510 was sent by Juan de Esquivel, governorof Jamaica, to the relief of Alonso de Ojeda, who had

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. . .our legacy shared by all Mexicans

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latina1955@... wrote:

This is our legacy shared by all Mexicans....we carry the
blood of the "Conquistadores" or at least the aspiring Spaniards who
wished to "conquer" or believed themselves better than the indigenous
population ......and the "Indios" , "Africanos", those of us that were
forced in servitude.....we are a contradiction of faces.....to deny our
mother is the same as to deny our fathers.....we are the faces of proud
and racist Europeans, and as we turn to our profile, we are also the
faces of proud and resilient "Indios", Africanos, and many others....we
are like a divorced family.....some of us are proud of certain roots,
others are proud of the other roots...but we are undeniably a product
of both....and those of us that understand our inheritance our richer
for our experiences......

Esperanza

Muy bien dicho!

lots of thoughts encapsulating years of inner stuggle in my mind. What
a conflict I've gone through in the past to be proud of my Indio side

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Victor (Villarreal in Zacatecas, etc.)

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Victor Villarreal wrote:

Esperanza,

Well, it is not so much that this conversation would be boring to other members as it is that it could easily drift away from the main area of interest of the Ranchos group.  Anyway, just to reply to your previous post, here are a couple of comments.

I still don't have a full picture of all the historical events related to the first Villarreales in "the New Spain".  I know the first Villarreales that settled in Northeast Mexico were involved in mining for precious metals along with other historical characters as Bernabé de las Casas and Martin de Zavala.  I believe the first mining sites in Mexico were located in the center of the country and there was a gradual movement in search of new sites in practically every direction.  Many of the settlers of Nuevo Leon had already passed thru Guanajuato, San Luis Potosi, Zacatecas, etc. on their way up north.  I believe such is the case for Diego de Villarreal.

As you know, there are some

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Westwood Films List: Thanks Lydia!

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Lydia,

thanks so much for this info. This is exactly what I was hoping someone
would do. . .and now its done beyond my greatest hope. thanks for
finding this and submitting.

thanks,

joseph

Lydia Corona wrote:

In the January 2005 issue
of Somos Primos, it is noted that a volunteer has indexed every Latin
America film the Los Angeles LDS Family History Center has at it's
location.That index can now be viewed on the internet. Hopefully, this
can help someone save a trip to Westwood.

The ftp: in the email is correct. ftp://66.159.208.204/latinfilms/home.html

Joseph Puentes wrote:

okay,
so now the cat is out of the bag. In the Ranchos2 files [look under
"members films"] area is a place where members can list their permanent
films. I know that some of those films might not be exactly yours but
if you could why not make a list of all the films you

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Did you find these children?for:  Jalisco, Mexico
      Father: Antonio Del Real, Mother: Rufina Rodriques
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      Prepare selected records for download 

   International Genealogical Index / Mexico - 5  
            Select records to download - (50 maximum) 
                 1. MARIA GUADALUPE REAL RODRIQUES - International Genealogical Index 
                  Gender: Female Christening: 05 AUG 1742 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
                 
                 2. JUAN YGNACIO REAL RODRIGUES - International Genealogical Index 
                  Gender: Male Christening: 11 NOV 1759 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico 
                 
                 3. JUANA REAL RODRIGUEZ - International Genealogical Index 
                  Gender: Female

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Esperanza and Victor,
It is very interesting to me to hear the history of other members. 

My grandparents were from the surrounding area of Jalostotitlán, Jalisco and out of 9 children 5 moved to Sacramento, California in the early 1950's.  Two died in Mexico and the remaining 2 moved here within the last 10 years.  There are so many people that live in Sacramento that are from the Jalostotitlan and Teocaltitan de Guadalupe area.  There is also some who chose to live in the Los Angeles area.  I guess they all moved down here because of jobs and word of mouth by their relatives or neighbors.

Maria Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez

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  Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:51 PM
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  Hi Victor

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Fremont trip

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We can be there Saturday the 19th, Rich and our
son Rick will be golfing on Sunday and then Mon and Tues we make tamales in
Santa Cruz. then back home on the 22nd p.m.

We are currently doing our homework for our upcoming
trip to SLC this coming April - May. We will be there about 2 weeks, but
probably only get to the library 3-4 times.

What time works for you on the 19th. If the 19th
doesn't work for you, we can find out what tee time our son has and work around
their golf on Sunday.
Where about do you live in San Jose?
Since we came from Fremont in 1986, we are somewhat familiar of the area.
I was raised in Santa Clara and Rich was raised in Redwood City.

We will be coming in on 680 or Hiway 80 from
Fremont.

Kitty

From: Alicia Carrillo
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Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:43
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Kitty,

My husband Juan and I would also like to meet you. I had not replied

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Thoughts on a SLC Trip

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Kitty,

My husband Juan and I would also like to meet you. I had not replied because I wasn't sure if we were going to be in town on that date. Our grandson who is with us will be out of school that week and we were planning on going to Ensenda. Because we are undergoing bathroom remodeling we will delay by a few days so we'll be here. I can put on a cup of coffee and get some pan dulce/Mexican sweetbread. Please let me know if that would work. Since we're both at home we are flexible with time.

I can't wait, this would be great to meet up face to face with such experienced genealogists.

Alicia

kitty_cortez wrote:

Alicia I would spend your time at SLC in making copies of those records you found on the IGI. If you ONLY go after the extracted documents that you know are on the films, you should have no problem getting thru the 47 rolls of film you have. Then any extra time can be used by going thru a couple of films slowly. If your list of documents to find is listed

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UTPA Books: Los Altos Books/Mazapil/Nochistlan/

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Author 	Tuck, Jim.

Title The holy war in Los Altos : a regional analysis of Mexico'sCristero rebellion / Jim Tuck.

Publication info. 	Tucson, Arizona : University of Arizona Press, c1982.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 F1234 .T9 1982  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	xiii, 230 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
Bibliography 	Bibliography: p. 209-219.
Note 	Includes index.
Local note 	TPNA 15.95
	TPNA 15.95 c.2
Subject 	Cristero Rebellion, 1926-1929.
	Jalisco (Mexico) -- History.
ISBN 	0816507791
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Author 	Robe, Stanley Linn, 1915- comp.

Title Mexican tales and legends from Los Altos / Introd.,classification, and notes by Stanley L. Robe.

Publication info. 	Berkeley : University of California Press, 1970.
Location 	Call No. 	Status
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58     	  AVAILABLE
  UTPA Stacks (2nd West) 	 GR115 .R58  c.2  	  AVAILABLE
Description 	578 p. : ill., ports. ; 27 cm

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Victor (Villarreal in Zacatecas, etc.)

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One Reason We Are Mexicans and Not Indios

. . .our legacy shared by all Mexicans

Victor (Villarreal in Zacatecas, etc.)

Westwood Films List: Thanks Lydia!

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Fremont trip

Thoughts on a SLC Trip

UTPA Books: Los Altos Books/Mazapil/Nochistlan/