Hola Victoriano,

Your two calculations aren’t very different from each other. They are almost identical.
I hope the following gives some insight on why I was wrong on the Asian components.
If you look at the spreadsheet all of the Iberian groups, except Basques, have Southwest Asian. That includes the Portuguese. Canarias and Murcia have a tiny amount of East Asian, all other Iberians have none. All Iberians including Basques have West Asian. All Iberians except for those from Andalucía (from the 1,000 Genomes project) have South Asian. Therefore, at least a portion of Southwest Asian, West Asian and South Asian need to be added to your Spanish total if not all of it. You don’t have East Asian and neither do most Iberians. The rest was hard for me to tell. We know that our Amerindian ancestors came from Siberia and they must have had some Asian components and probably some of the other components such as Arctic and Siberian, but once I look at the Maya population from Li et al. (HGDP) I see that they don’t have any of the Asian components. I had overlooked that. Hopefully a new study comes out that includes more Amerindian groups of Mexico and a higher number of subjects. Until then it looks as though all of the Asian components need to be included with the Spanish/Iberian ancestry or attributed to other ancestors.
Of course, the above means I incorrectly added the Asian to the Amerindian. I hadn’t looked closely enough at the spreadsheet and had assumed that a lot of Asian components would have went with the Siberians into North Central and South America. These components are from the past 50,000 years in which multiple waves of people migrated to different parts of Asia, Middle East, and Europe and the Asians went to the Americas 20,000 years ago which I why I had assumed some of those components went with the Siberians to the Americas.
Now let’s look at what Spencer Wells of Geno 2.0 has to say about the Amerindian, Mongolian, and the Iberian populations at https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/overview-of-regions-and-clos…
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AMERINDIAN (MEXICO)
This reference population is based on samples collected from regions in central Mexico. These are the descendants of the original settlers of the Americas over 15,000 years ago, accounting for the 83% Native American percentage. The 5% Northern European, 4% Mediterranean, 3% Southwest Asian come from recent migrations to the Americas by Europeans over the past 500 years. The 4% Northeast Asian component is reflective of the origins of the Native Americans in northeastern Asia over 20,000 years ago
MONGOLIAN
This reference population is based on samples collected from the native populations of Mongolia. In addition to the 67% Northeast Asian component typical of Siberian and Mongolian populations, there is also a western Eurasian contribution of 12% Southwest Asian, and 6% Northern European, which shows the connection to steppe nomads of western Eurasian origin, as well as migrations from the Middle East with the spread of agriculture over the past 10,000 years, along with some recent migration from Russian populations. The 9% Southeast Asian component is likely a result of admixture with groups further to the south, such as the Chinese. The 4% Native American component reflects the fact that the ancestors of today’s Native Americans probably originated in this region.
IBERIAN (SPAIN & PORTUGAL)
This reference population is based on samples collected from people native to Spain and Portugal. The 48% Mediterranean and 13% Southwest Asian percentages reflect the strong influence of agriculturalists from the Fertile Crescent in the Middle East, who arrived here more than 8,000 years ago. The 37% Northern European component likely comes from the pre-agricultural population of Europe—the earliest settlers, who arrived more than 35,000 years ago during the Upper Paleolithic period. Today, this component predominates in northern European populations, while the Mediterranean component is more common in southern Europe.
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So as you can see he also shows the Amerindian have the Northeast Asian component. Mongolians have Southwest Asian, apart from other Asian components, Native American, and even the Northern European component. The Iberians to have a significant amount of Asian ancestry. You also have to take into consideration that Spencer divides Asians into 3 and not 4 ancestral components like Dienekes Pontikos did with Dodecad Globe13.
I agree that our Spanish ancestors aren’t all going to have been like the population group that I used as the comparison group. However since it should be an average of what they are today then I think is the best option especially considering that our ancestors were from all over Spain including many that were from the Basque Country. Yes, Spanish and Portuguese have some ancestors that were Jews and Moors. Some have more than others. They would have admixed over the centuries. All of those ethnic groups were admixed already with many of the same components as the Spanish_D and none consisted of a single component. Our Iberian ancestors would have been a mix of the Portuguese and Spanish that had already had the admixture of the Jews and Moors as well as any other ethnic group. Yes, the Spanish and Portuguese might have changed some over the past 500 years but it shouldn’t have been large since the autosomal components based on SNPs are from 50,000 years ago to 8,000 years ago for all of the groups. It isn’t as if the markers that are from that far back would have changed so drastically over just 500 years. Scientists are even using the autosomal markers of ancient remains to provide clues of where which groups originally had which autosomal markers. They point to Otzi the Iceman for clues to our past - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi#Genetic_analysis and autosomal results from such specimens are used in the DNA databases of the commercial companies. I’ll use the Y-DNA haplogroups as an analogy for the markers not changing. The R1b marker still exists from more than 10,000 years ago in Mexicans that descend from Spaniards that populated Mexico 400 or more years ago. Some of those families might have created new subclades but the ancestral marker is not lost. They are still R1b regardless. This is also the most common among Iberians and it is also the most common among Mexicans that have a European paternal line. The same goes with the few Mexicans that have a female European line. They have the most common Spanish mtDNA. Therefore, our Spanish ancestors shouldn’t be that different from the modern Spaniard. Only time will tell for sure. We might not be around when they figure that out. Even so from now, as far as the components, I will focus on commenting that the North European and Mediterranean is high in Iberians and they also have Asian components, the Amerindian is self-named, the African is partially from our Iberian ancestors and directly from Africa for some portion for some people.
Of course there should be flexibility. I am not saying the components should be assigned to the ethnic or geographic groups exactly as I analyzed. I’ve acknowledged my error on the assignment of the Asian components. The assignment of the ancestral components to ethnic groups was my attempt to correct assignment of ethnic labels from FTDNA Population Finder, 23andme, or even Geno 2.0. Dienekes made multiple calculators until he came up with Globe13 which showed to be the best fit. FTDNA admits that Population Finder is in Beta but they assign too much of our components to Middle Eastern population groups. It’s one thing to say they have the Middle Eastern component but yet another to say a person belonged to a specific ethnic group from that region when there is no history of it in the person’s ancestry. They provide labels as to which population group the person likely has ancestry from without taking into consideration the person’s real ancestry or that it looks like they belong to those population groups only because the other ethnic groups also have some of the same ancestral components from 8,000 to 50,000 years ago that have been passed down to both the person’s autosomal DNA and to the ethnic group. Geno 2.0 will probably end up saying you match some other population best and Mexican second if at all. They said one subject is Bulgarian even though they show that she has 35% Native American and Bulgarians have none and all of her other components are within 2% of their Mexican population group. Regardless, Geno 2.0 and Globe13 with the FTDNA raw data file are still the best because they provide their reference population groups and which components those reference population groups contain. FTDNA Population Finder does not do that and 23andme does only provides how many subjects match a certain component. 23andme won’t provide all of the components an ethnic group contains. Geno 2.0 also provides the age and origin of each ancestral component which none of the other do.
My main objective was getting knowledge about what Geno 2.0 and Globe13 have to offer to our group and the failings of FTDNA Population Finder. Everyone can use Globe13, read the source population group data, and decide for themselves what they think they consist of. Hopefully once more data is available from more studies the picture will become clearer.
By the way, the DIY Dodecad 2.1 Wrapper has been updated to use also analyze Geno 2.0 and Ancestry.com files. It can be downloaded at http://www.y-str.org/tools/diy-dodecad-wrapper/
I was able to use a Geno 2.0 file and here are the results –
Geno Component Globe13 Component Geno Reults Globe13 Results
Northern_European North_European 18 16.36
Mediterranean Mediterranean 28 24.74
Native_American Amerindian 35 35.21
n/a Arctic 0 3.42
Northeast_Asian East_Asian 2 0.42
n/a Siberian 0 0.52
n/a Arctic 0 0
Southern_African Palaeo_African 0 0
Oceanian Australasian 0 0.37
Sub-Saharan_African West_African 6 5.98
n/a East_African 0 0
Southwest_Asian Southwest_Asian 10 4.04
n/a West_Asian 0 7.59
n/a South_Asian 0 0.26
Southeast_Asian South_Asian 0 0
East_Asian 0 0
Total Total 99 98.91

Basically the Globe13 North European, Mediterranean, and Amerindian will be very close your Geno 2.0 results. Your Globe13 West Asian and Southwest Asian will mostly be part of your Geno 2.0 Southwest Asian result.

Saludos,
Armando