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My grandmother was born on the hacienda Pena Blanca. Does anyone have
any information on this hacienda and whether it exists in any form at
present? Per birth records the hacienda had to be close to Valparaiso,
Zacatecas. My guess is that it belonged to the Felguerez family but I
am not certain.

Thank you.

Ed

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2005/spmar05/spmar05.htm

Natalie,

I think what you're refering to is the "Cristiada" or "Guerra de los
Cristeros", a violent conflict between the Mexican

Natalie,

I think what you're refering to is the "Cristiada" or "Guerra de los 
Cristeros", a violent conflict between the Mexican government and the 
Catholic church in the 1920's.

You can do a search of those two words and you'll find a lot of 
information on that little know episode of the Mexican history.

The following link provides a summary from the Catholic perspective:
 
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=20652

Victor.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone provide information on something known as "La Cristada"? 
I 
> was viewing some photos historical photos at www.valparaiso.tk 
having 
> to do with "La Cristada en Valparaiso, Zacatecas y Huejuquilla, 
> Jalisco" - pretty gruesome photos (hangings and beheadings), but 
do  
> not know the background of this event, when it took place, etc. Can 
> anyone provide information? I tried google, but didn't find much 
that 
> was helpful (judging by synopsi (sp?)- however

Can anyone provide information on something known as "La Cristada"? I 
was viewing some photos historical photos at www.valparaiso.tk having 
to do with "La Cristada en Valparaiso, Zacatecas y Huejuquilla, 
Jalisco" - pretty gruesome photos (hangings and beheadings), but do  
not know the background of this event, when it took place, etc. Can 
anyone provide information? I tried google, but didn't find much that 
was helpful (judging by synopsi (sp?)- however,I did not open any of 
the listings). Many of you are well informed, so I trust someone can 
help learn something new.  Thanks.

Natalie 

Natalie wrote:

I was at the local FHC yesterday to view film #1164746/Valparaiso
Church Records- Informacion matrimonial, 1904-1907. I was perusing
the film - wanted to see who was from Astillero, besides my
grandfather and grandmother, when I came across a record that just
made me wonder (these are the basics, not finite details because I
didn't write them down): The bride and groom were both surnamed
Ramirez; the groom was 24 years old; the bride was a 40-something
widow; the bride was the sister of the groom's father. Has anyone
else come across a similar record/situation?

what great good luck. keeping it all in the family produces what are
called "Marriage Dispensas" Seems that when couples were related they
needed special permission to marry and this often involved lots of
investigation and genealogy lines being produced. I'm not the expert on
this subject and there are a few messages in the archives about
Dispensas. . .I'm not sure that was the subject name. .

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Hello,

I have been researching a line of the Olague family, from Colotlan,
Jalisco.  That came to Texas, and then to Utah.

thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
> Hello, Sonya,
> 
> None of your names sound familiar to me, but I have a long way to go
in researching my Olagues and Garcias.  I will let you know if I find
anything on your Olagues and Garcias.
> 
>     Regards,
>        Emilie  
>        Port Orchard, WA.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sonya
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:41 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Olague-Garcia-Tinajero-Suriano of Jerez and
Tepetongo, ZAC.
> 
> 
> Hello, I, too, am new to the group.
> 
> My Great Grandmother was Demetria Olague born in 1888 in Torreon,  
> Coahuila, married 'Jose MIGUEL PACHECO Garcia' on Aug. 1, 1911 in
> Torreon, Coahuila.  My Great Grandfather Miguel Pacheco was born in  
> Valparaiso and is the son of Bruno PACHECO Galicia(b

He has done a great job with the genealogical
information he has presented.  

He is to be congratulated.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Punters  wrote:
> 
> Awhile back Steve Campos posted his website.  .  .I
> might be wrong but I 
> understood that he completely transcribed some of
> the films and put the 
> results on his page. For those of you doing research
> in Jerez:
> 
>  URL:  http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez/index.htm 
> 
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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Marge, I believe you are searching for relatives with
the last name of Olague.  Today in the obituary column
of the Santa Barbara News-Press newspaper, I found the
following:

"On March 8, 2005, our beloved grandfather, Felipe
Olague Menchaca peacefully passed away due to a long
term illness, with his closest family members at his
side.  Felipe was born  on May 26, 1919 in Jerez,
Zacatecas, Mx, to Alejo Menchaca and Aniceta Olague. 
He migrated to the United States in the 1940's and
settled in Santa Barbara, CA where he contributed to
the establishment of our railroad for several years. 
Two of Felipe's greatest accomplishment were marrying
the beautiful love of his life, Pauline Menchaca and
becoming an American citizen."

There was other information and you want me to send 
it to you, please let me know.  Both names, Olague and
Menchaca, are names that go back to the beginning of
Jerez when it was first settled.

My grandfather, Alberto Duarte Vasquez, who was from
Jerez, probably

Awhile back Steve Campos posted his website. . .I might be wrong but I
understood that he completely transcribed some of the films and put the
results on his page. For those of you doing research in Jerez:

URL: http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez/index.htm

joseph

are you the member of the church that submitted these records? If not
maybe you have a cousin out there that you need to contact:

GUADALUPE GARCIA ARROYO  	
  	Male 	  	
			
Event(s):
	Birth:  	
1868   	Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico
	Christening:
	Death:  	
1941   	
	Burial:
			
Parents:
  	Father:  	MARCIAL GARCIA 	Family
  	Mother:  	MARIA DEL REFUGIO ARROYO 	
	
Messages:

Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record
includes some persons who were alive and some who were deceased at the
time of submission. The film cannot be sent to family history centers
and has limited access at the Family History Library.

Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the
submitter's name and address and may include source information. The
address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know
the batch and sheet number.

				
Source Information:
	Batch Number:  	0760035 	  	
	Sheet:  	00 	  	
	Source Call No.:  	1553592   	Type:

I was at the local FHC yesterday to view film #1164746/Valparaiso 
Church Records- Informacion matrimonial, 1904-1907. I was perusing 
the film - wanted to see who was from Astillero, besides my 
grandfather and grandmother, when I came across a record that just 
made me wonder (these are the basics, not finite details because I 
didn't write them down): The bride and groom were both surnamed 
Ramirez; the groom was 24 years old; the bride was a 40-something 
widow; the bride was the sister of the groom's father. Has anyone 
else come across a similar record/situation? I wonder what the story 
is? I know that this isn't exactly what this board is for - but just 
thought I'd share a "research" experience.
Natalie

Hello, I, too, am new to the group.

My Great Grandmother was Demetria Olague born in 1888 in Torreon, 
Coahuila, married 'Jose MIGUEL PACHECO Garcia' on Aug. 1, 1911 in
Torreon, Coahuila.  My Great Grandfather Miguel Pacheco was born in 
Valparaiso and is the son of Bruno PACHECO Galicia(b.1855) & Cesarea 
GARCIA Arroyo(b.1858) born and married in Valparaiso, Zacatecas.

Demetria is the daughter of Eufemio Olague & Ysabel Gomez and was 
christen in Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas.  My Pacheco Garcia 
line from records found show Valparaiso, Zacatecas.  Cesarea's 
parents Marcial Garcia (b.1832) & Maria Del Refugio Arroyo (b.1832) 
were born & married in Valparaiso, Zacatecas.

Do any of these names sound familiar? Have been unable to find any 
additional linking info on the OLAGUE's. Have heard through family 
that Demetria had a brother but no one knows his name and have been 
unable to make a connection.

My great grandparents Miguel & Demetria migrated sometime during 
1911 to

Well it's one month away from Axe Time and I've narrowed the field down
to an Unlucky 13 members. I've been in private email with this group and
believe that when it is said and done the list will only be about 5-8. I
am very happy that so few are on the list.

in the meantime the sparks are flying as I sharpen and sharpen and
sharpen. . . .

joseph the Axe

Well I am going to have to find a map of zacatecas and look at how far these
places are from each other. I only know that we have family in El Teul and
Florencia Zacatecas, but I am not ruling out any surrounding areas until I
know for sure.

I will look at your file later on.

Thank you



              ~~glo~~






From: "Peggy Delgado" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:23:58 -0800


Hi Gloria,
No that's all the information I have.  Did you look at my file for Correa?
Most of my Correa's are from the Tepechitlan, Zacatecas,
Area, although later my great-grandmother Maria was born in Tlaltenango.
Good luck!
Peggy

-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes [mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:47 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman


Peggy,

Do you have any other

Hi Gloria,
No that's all the information I have.  Did you look at my file for Correa?
Most of my Correa's are from the Tepechitlan, Zacatecas,
Area, although later my great-grandmother Maria was born in Tlaltenango.
Good luck!
Peggy

-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes [mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:47 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman


Peggy,

Do you have any other information on your Correa, my great grandmother was a
  Correa, all I know is that she married an Arellano, and they had my
grandmother who was
Maria Guadalupe Arellano she married my grandfather Martin Sandoval. They
had my Father Agapito Arellano Sandoval.

My dad was born February 27, 1927

The whole family is from Zacatecas, the only places I am sure of is:  El
Teul Zac and Florencia Zac.

I am planning a trip to sac april 15th and plan on a long visit with my Tia
while I am there. Hopefully she can fill in some more

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Peggy,

Do you have any other information on your Correa, my great grandmother was a
Correa, all I know is that she married an Arellano, and they had my
grandmother who was
Maria Guadalupe Arellano she married my grandfather Martin Sandoval. They
had my Father Agapito Arellano Sandoval.

My dad was born February 27, 1927

The whole family is from Zacatecas, the only places I am sure of is: El
Teul Zac and Florencia Zac.

I am planning a trip to sac april 15th and plan on a long visit with my Tia
while I am there. Hopefully she can fill in some more blanks for me.

If only I could find out more information on Correa and Arellano's.





              ~~glo~~






From: "Peggy Delgado" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:10:54 -0800

Hi Angie!
Yes, thanks to your help earlier last year, I was able to fill in some of
the Raigosa lines.

My Correa line is

I have LOTS of family in sacramento.



              ~~glo~~






From: "Maria/Mark Uhlenburg" 
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: 
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 07:35:26 -0800

I'm from Folsom, California, which is in the county of Sacramento.

Maria-Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?


  Southern California over here.



                 ~~glo~~






  From: Joseph Puentes 
  Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
  Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you
in

  OH, and TX oh and UT and MA

  anyone else on the East Coast?

  joseph


  Carol Lester wrote