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Dear Angie:



Whoever you are...wow...wow..wow!!!



Thank you so much.  Short note, I accidently found all these ancestors in Salt Lake City.  When I put in the state I put Aguas instead of Zac...which is what I was always told that the Alvares came from....well...as we know Zac and Aguas are close....on the map...this is how I found so many generations.....very good.



I am so excited......



Mickey

Hello All,

This is to notify you of a couple of files that I just uploaded to
the Files Section.

Surnames: Villagrana, Martel, Pinedo, Colunga, Del Real, Serrano,
Arana, Rosales, Marquez, Lopez, Sandoval, Sanches Castellanos,
Hurtado, Morillo, Perez, Tovar, Raygoza, Balbuena, Alvarado ...

Places: Monte Escobedo, Villa Guerrero, Totatiche, Tlaltenango,
Colotlán, El Terrerito, El Salitre, El Salto...

Your comments (and help) are most welcome!

Victor

Hello Mickey,

Just in case you have missed this IGI record related to your Ballesteros search:

NAME				LAST NAME	BATCH
JOSE CALLETANO DE JESUS 	VALLESTEROS	J602664 

The other two are hard to miss, but here they are anyway.
CAYETANO 			BALLESTEROS	M603184 
CAYETANO 			BALLESTEROS	M602558 

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@a... wrote:
> Joseph:
> 
> Does the info that I sent suffice?  Do you need more?
> Am I a member?
> 
> Mickey

Mickey,

Your Bobadilla names sounded familar so I did a quick search and 
found Pablo Senior's marriage to Juana Carlos:

PABLO ANTO. DE BOBADILLA
Male
Parents: 
  Father:  ANTO. DE BOBADILLA
  Mother:  MARIA DE ABILA
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  JUANA CARLOS
  Marriage:  16 FEB 1722   San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Parents: 
  Father:  SALVADOR CARLOS 
Messages: 
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:
 M604651  1720 - 1751  0443781   Film

Here is a list of possible children to Pablo and Juana Carlos:
MA. JOSEFA BOBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Female Christening: 09 JAN 1724 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico 

MA. MEREGILDA BOBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Female Christening: 20 NOV 1730 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, 
Mexico

ATHOMAS DE AQUINO COBADILLA CARLOS
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAR 1734 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Mickey Garcia (MMG8938@.../Mickey Garcia 
  Uploaded by : makas_nc  
  Description : Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes 

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Mickey%20Garcia%20%28MMG8938%40aol.com/Mickey%20Garcia 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

makas_nc 
 

Joseph:



Does the info that I sent suffice?  Do you need more?

Am I a member?



Mickey

Hi Marge,

As you may have noticed in my introduction post, I also have ancestors in Zacatecas, namely in Monte Escobedo and Rancho el Limón.  I'll soon have a file ready for uploading.  When I do I'll let you know so you can browse thru it.

Thanks!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "marge vallazza"  wrote:
> Victor, I have Morillo and Tovar ancestors and family connections from Zacatecas.  Marge V:)
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rosalinda M. Ruiz 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 6:14 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Allow me to introduce myself...
> 
> 
>   Hi Victor!
> 
>   Welcome to the ranchos group.  I just wanted to mention that I have families from Totatiche and the surrounding areas.  The last names are Sandoval, Urena, Haro, Del Real, Gonzalez, Rojas, Covarrubias/Cobarrubias, Diaz Romero, Rodriguez, and many, many others.   Do you have a file with your family trees yet?  We may have a connection.  I'm

Hi Rosalinda,

Thanks for the welcoming message; I really appreciate it.  

I'm glad to know that you also have families from Totatiche and the surrounding towns.  It is very likely that we may have an ancestor in common, even if it isn't in the immediate generations that preceded us.  To start with, in my genealogical findings in the IGI from the parish records I already have some of the surnames that you list: for example, Sandoval and Del Real, but I'm sure there may still others that I don't know.

I'm currently in the process of transcribing a list of ancestors from my maternal great grandparents, which are the ones from our area of interest.  I just came back from out of town as I was busy attending some work, that's why I haven't done it.  I'll let you know soon when I upload my files.

Kind Regards

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Rosalinda M. Ruiz"  wrote:
> Hi Victor!
> 
> Welcome to the ranchos group.  I just wanted to mention that I have families

Gloria,

In reference to the information and question below regarding the Felguerez and Colotlan, I 
make a few comments. One, you can obtain an idea of the land owned by the Felguerez 
family by reviewing the article that I put in the photo section and labeled Valparaiso. 
Paragraph three of Cerro de Gallegos.jpg gives you an estimate of the size of the land 
ownership. In the 1800's ownership of land generally meant ownership of very large tracts 
of land. Secondly, the names of some of the ranchos owned by Felguerez family in 
Valparaiso (I think) were: El Astillero, El Tejujan, Las Cruzes. They also owned a silver 
mine, Santa Elena. In Colotlan, they owned La Trinidad and the silver mine called Bolanos. 
Thirdly, these properties were all lost in the Mexican Revolution to my knowledge. 
Fourthly, one of the Felguerez returned to Valparaiso in the 1920's, only to be murdered. 
Lastly, one of the great artists/painter/sculptors of Mexico today is from Valparaiso and 
part of the

where are you Ken? Are you anywhere

thanks very much to Ed Serros for this very nice article that is located
in the "files" area of Ranchos 2..

joseph

ps: quite a few of you are still not signed on to Ranchos2. If you get
this but can seem to get to Ranchos2 when you click on the "Ranchos2"
link in the "links" area of the "original" Ranchos group then maybe you
are one of those unsubscribed members. There is a lot of info there. let
me know if you can't access that site.

okay I see I've kind of gotten carried away with this. Its just that I
don't think to often of the cultural influences that affected our
relatives in different parts of Mexico. Its hard to imagine my relatives
in 1700's in some small Ranchos being subject to a higher level of
Music. But then I'm sure that even in the bigger Cities there was the
initial presentations and then that influence would filter outward
eventually making its way to the countryside even if it was only on the
strings of single guitarists trying to duplicate the more cultured
sound of the big city.

joseph


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CA UNIV OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO CUS
LA LOYOLA UNIV LLM
NM UNIV OF NEW MEXICO IQU
NY NEW YORK PUB LIBR RES LIBR NYP
TX UNIV OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN IXA

Title:     Trayectoria de la música en México
epoca colonial /
Corp Author(s):     Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México.
Publication:     Mexico :; Voz Viva,
Year:

Can those of you that have special maps for your particular area of
research send them to me? I want to make up a section that has only good
maps for as many areas within our area of research as I can. I'm not
looking for generalized maps but those that get down to the Rancho
level. If I've already got the map either at my personal site that is
linked to in the "links" area or one of the other links you don't need
to send it again. But if you have a nice one you are pretty sure we
don't have please scan it or have it scanned and send it to me. I'll
make up a section for them and make them available to everyone.

thanks,

joseph

ps: I'd be especially interested in an Rancho level maps for the
Tepetongo, Sombrerete, Villanueva, Malpaso, Momax, Tepechitlan and
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas area.

As a new member, I've decided that I need to read all the postings 
since the beginning. I'm really impressed with the quality of the 
information and the commaraderie of this group.

I'm looking for a book from Miguel Alba titled "Una seccion de los 
Alba de los Altos de Jalisco" it was supposed to have been published 
in Mexico,D.F. in 1981. If anyone has any suggestions how I might 
find it, I would appreciate it.

My paternal grandparents are from Encarnacion de Diaz,Jalisco. Some 
of the surnames involved are:
Alba,Gonzalez,Villasenor,Verdin,Romo,Moreno,Lomelin,Ortega,Guerra,Mart
in,Estrada,Bocanegra,Sotomayor,Arenas,Retamosa.

My Maternal grandfather is from La Noria de San Pantaleon, Zacatecas. 
Surnames there are:
Breceda,Lares,Chacon,Rodriguez

I will be updating my lines and posting it here in the next few weeks.

Thanks,
Ken

----- Original Message -----

From: vela_este

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 1/15/2005 10:23:26 AM

Subject: [ranchos] Allow me to introduce myself...

Joseph,

I've already introduced myself to you, but if I may, I would like to post a brief introduction to other members of the Ranchos group.

My name is Victor Villarreal and I'm from Tamaulipas, México.

My paternal surname and ancestry is mostly found in northeast México, particularly Nuevo León, but my maternal surname leads me back to Jalisco, Zacatecas and even