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DNA Examinations

I sent this information to Gloria...which might also be helpful to the group on collecting oral samples.

Helyn Castaneda

Buccal (oral)

There are two sources of DNA used in forensic analyses. Nuclear DNA (nDNA) is typically analyzed in evidence containing blood, semen, saliva, body tissues, and hairs that have tissue at their root ends. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is typically analyzed in evidence containing naturally shed hairs, hair fragments, bones, and teeth.

Questions concerning nuclear DNA evidence should be directed to 703-632-8446. Questions concerning mitochondrial DNA evidence should be directed to 703-632-7572. Follow the Evidence Submission directions including Requesting Evidence Examinations and Packaging and Shipping Evidence.

   


Buccal (oral) swabs
  • Use clean cotton swabs to collect buccal (oral) samples. Rub the inside surfaces of the cheeks thoroughly.

  • Air-dry the swabs and place in clean paper or an envelope with sealed

Joseph?

My prayers will
be for the recovery of your brother.

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God
bless.

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size=2>Alberto.


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
[mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004
11:40 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Joseph?


   Joseph,

Is there
anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to
sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition
with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the
DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and
be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you
call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and
away from my
computer.

thank you
gloria



Joseph?

so sorry to hear about your brother. I don't know of ways to preserve
the DNA without one of the collection kits sent out with the test. I
might be wrong about this but I think there are more expensive tests
that can be done with hair. Another thing to consider is does your
brother have any male children because you can pick up your dad's side
via his male children and you can get your mom's mom's mom's etc side
via your own MtDNA.


again sorry to hear about your brother.

joseph

glo Sandoval-Fuentes wrote:

  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.


He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?


Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
com

Joseph?


  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.


He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?


Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria



Joseph?


  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.


He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?


Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria



Luna & Herrera

Hi Esperanza,
 
I have run across the surnames you mentioned
(de-Herrera & de-Luna) in my Los Altos research in birth & marriage
records.  It's worth a try.  My great Aunt by marriage was a de-Luna
from the ranch, La Cienega located in San Miguel el Alto.  There are still
de Lunas there.  My cousin, Maria -Ventura is married to one, and
lives on that ranch.  I also have De Herrera in my family tree. 
Maria-Tomasa de-Herrera, born in 1776 (4th great grandmother) was born in San
Juan de los Lagos, but her older siblings were born in
Jalostotitlan.
Irma
-----Original Message-----
From: latina1955@...
[mailto:latina1955@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:31
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

I just wanted to share something that about my past.  Recently, I
learned what native american blood we have from our father's side of the
family.
 
On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores (1742) it is

DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!

Wow, what a great
story.  I bet the same happened to many of our grandparents that came
from Mexico during those hard times.  They suffered great hardships and
give up many sacrifices so that we could led a better life.
 
Regards.
 
Alberto.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:03
PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] DNA: Soy
Indio Tambien!



alice wissing wrote:

Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with the
group?

absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite
figured out how to do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded this
message to Gary Felix with the question of how best I should share my DNA
results with a group of people.

I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the money and
trouble.

was it worth the money and trouble, well first it
was no trouble at all unless you consider a slight scratching

DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!

Joseph,

These are the Native-American haplogroups for Mt-DNA:
A, B, C, D,

These are the European haplogroups for Mt-DNA: H, J,
U, V, T, X, I

Which one did you come out, I came out X.


Saludos,
Angel Cervantes
Cervantes DNA Surname Project
Project Administrator



		
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

I just wanted to share something that about my past.  Recently, I learned what native american blood we have from our father's side of the family.
 
On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores (1742) it is mentioned that They were "Indios Tlaxcaltecos" and their parents origin was Nadadores,Coahuila, this is a small town close to Cuatro Cienegas.  Here's what's interesting:  Tlaxcaltecos Indians were not indigenous to Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area.  Upon further research, I found out that these were the same Indians that had befriended Cortez and helped bring the Aztec empire down.  Further, they were brought up by the Espanoles to the Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area to help docile the local population. 
 
I thought this information was wonderful and it was found through birth certificates!.  Our indigenous heritage was purposely down-played, and I, for one was delighted to find out why some of us are "morenos" on our father's side of the family.
 
Regarding the DNA project, a

DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!





alice wissing wrote:

Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with
the group?

absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite figured out how to
do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded this message to Gary
Felix with the question of how best I should share my DNA results with
a group of people.

I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the money and
trouble.

was it worth the money and trouble, well first it was no trouble at all
unless you consider a slight scratching (no blood) of the inside of
your cheek trouble. With regards to the money well I look at that this
way - somebody had to go first so why not me. Heck a thousand years
from now I plan on being a genealogical god. . .i figure someone will
be saying wow that Joseph Puentes sure was a visionary to have done all
that genealogy and his DNA testing to boot! Right now I have some
unique opportunities: To collect Oral History before it dies out AND to
collect DNA

Food Traditions

Hello All,
 
I have been following the conversations about food traditions and how to cook Menudo, Pozole, etc.  I don't know if anyone shares the custom that we have in the Sain Alto region of Zacatecas.  Many people have Reliquias (Spelling?).  These are celebrations in honor of a patron saint.  Households will cook a whole lot of food and then pray a rosary in honor of that saint and the best part of all is that the food will be given away to anyone that comes to the house.  If you wish to eat in the home that is acceptable and if not, then families will normally bring a dish and it will be filled to take home.  It is a wonderful tradition that we have in Sain Alto.
 
My husband is from Magdalena, Jalisco and he has never heard of a Reliquia.  My father-in-law's parents and grandparents are from Zacatecas and he has heard of and attended some Reliquia.  So this leads me to believe that it may be a Zacatecas thing.  What do you think?
 
And yes, I too celebrate all of my various

Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

I am in the process of getting my DNA test via a brother.  I notice alot of discussion regarding our rainbow spectrum.  Most of us being from the Central Mexican provinces will be most affected by the Rainbow spectrum.  The silver cities, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes and Jalisco were more predominately Espanol because the Indigenous population was less settled in those areas and thus less present and those that were succumbed to the European illness and savagery of how that part of our bloodline mistreated the labor of that part of the bloodline. I also have the dark to white spectrum in my family, the Rubio's form Los Altos married las morenas from Durango, when grandpa from his flight from Teocaltiche married a second wife, because tragically his first died via the various plaques that affected Mexico during this turbulent time.
 
Spainards are not all blond and blue eyed and only a small minority are tall, from the Extremadura area region, where the conquistadors are from.  Spain is

ONE LAST TRY

Thank you so much. I am estatic someone else is also doing Pinos.


Sylvia Rodriguez Robles MPA
909-783-2571

Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

Alice,
 
I feel the same way as you do. We have 3 children all of which married Anglo-Americans. My greatest desire was to have brown grandbabies so as not to lose our heritage. I would love them all and do love them regardless of their color or parentage. But I too have a problem with wanting to be only European.
 
I think Joseph mentioned in one of his previous comments that he will stop people just to ask them what part of Mexico they are from. My husband and I do the same thing, in a restaurant, the gardeners, our cleaning ladies or a new company employee with a spanish surname.
 
As I grow older I become more Mexicana not less. As I grow older I go back to who I've always been with the sense and security that comes with love and acceptance of who you are. In my younger self I wanted to fit in and be like everyone else even if it meant separating from my roots. Now I'm not willing or able to give that up. Here in California there's a new radio station called La Preciosa. It has

Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with the group?  I'd like to know whether you felt it was worth the money and trouble.
 
Also, I haven't heard anybody out their brag about their dark or short relatives.  The more I learn about Mexican history, the more I value Indian characteristics and view them as attractive.  The study of my family's genealogy has made me love and respect all my relatives equally, regardless of whether they turned out European, Indian, black, or Asian looking.  In fact, the variety in their appearance serves to remind me just how mixed a race we are. 
 
I hope there are others who feel the same way.
 
Alicia

Joseph Puentes wrote:

Sylvia,

welcome to the group. . .look don't let me bother you too much about the deadline. If April 15 approaches and you are not ready just email me directly (makas@...) let me know you are not ready and how much more time you'll need and you will be "spared" the savageness of my axe swing. I

ONE LAST TRY

Sylvia,
If you need, in posting your information, or in organizing.  Just let
the group know.  Because, I am sure that there are many of us who can
help you out. 

If you ancestors are from  the Pinos, Zacatecas area.  I would
suggest, getting in touch with Rosario Ellis (she is a member of the
group).  I know that she has been doing research in the Pinos area.

Thanks,
Jonathan




Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

Sylvia,



welcome to the group. . .look don't let me bother you too much about
the deadline. If April 15 approaches and you are not ready just email
me directly (makas@...) let me know you are not ready and how
much more time you'll need and you will
be "spared" the savageness of my axe swing. I'm trying to be reasonable
and give people extra time if needed. then again some never communicate
and won't submit and they of course will only feel my wrath come April
15th.



joseph



ps: about the virus thing you mentioned. . .one word: garlic; ajo. If
you have an interest in what i'm talking about I can share how it will
help you fight future bouts with the more typical virus' people
comfront.



pps: cool message from Egypt to Yucatan to Zacatecas. . .as long as you
tie it into Zacatecas I'd be interested in reading a little more about
this. I for one would like to trace my DNA indicated Irish, Swedish,
English, Jewish roots to my genealogical Mexican roots. Of course those
other roots

ONE LAST TRY

I in short am on the "bad girl" list for not yet posting my GEDOM 
Data as of yet. I just lost my mother in law and have been fighting 
one virus after another including, healing up my badly sprained 
ankle.  This is my #3 attempt to use this thing right! I am descended 
from grandparents from Teocaltihe, Jalisco and Pinos, Zacactecas. I 
have travelled to both towns and collected substantial data and books 
from region. I have oral tradition of Judio customs from Zacatecas 
side whose journey to Merida, Yucatan was from Egypt. The family 
owned several cattle ranches, a hacienda in Pinos and meat markets 
throughout Jalisco, Aguacalientes and Zacatecas.  The Los Altos, side 
which are in fact tall, 6 to 6'4" were artisans of leather. 




Gobernantes de Nueva Galicia


Gobernantes de Nueva Galicia y de Jalisco, 1531-1980 /

Juan López
1979
Spanish  Book 108 p. : ports ; 21 x 28 cm.
Guadalajara, Jalisco : [s.n.],
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Title: 	Gobernantes de Nueva Galicia y de Jalisco, 1531-1980 /
Author(s): 	López, Juan.
Publication: 	Guadalajara, Jalisco : [s.n.],
Year: 	1979
Description: 	108 p. : ports ; 21 x 28 cm.
Language: 	Spanish
	SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: 	Governors -- Mexico -- Jalisco -- Biography.
Colonial administrators -- Mexico -- Biography.
Note(s): 	"Esta edición ... consta de 100 ejemplares."--p. 5.
Class Descriptors: 	LC: F1296
Responsibility: 	[Juan López].
Material Type: 	Biography (bio)
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Entry: 	19870306
Update: 	19991208
Accession No: 	OCLC: 15278517
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Book

In a message dated 10/12/2004 03:58:55 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, aduarte@... writes:

If any of group has information on any my wife's family names, Gutierrez,
Padilla, Gonzalez, Casillas, from Los Altos, will you please share it.

Thank you.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.

I would be happy to share, but...could you please be more specific regarding names and dates.I have lots of data from all over Los Altos. 
 
And like I had previously mentioned, there is no tangible evidence indicating that there were any French (which they really weren't) in Los Altos.  They're just pure "Espan~oles." 
 
By the way, I passed through Pegueros when I was down there last summer.  I was staying in Capilla de Guadalupe and went to San Juan de los Lagos.  The camion first went to Tepa, then from there it passed through Pegueros on its way to Jalos and then San Juan de los Lagos.  Looked like a really nice little Pueblo
 
 
Hasta Luego,
Steven Francisco Hernandez Lopez

Book

My trip to Los Altos in 1993 was very much like yours (Mexico Jalisco, Los
Altos-Tepetitlan, Pegueros) in that I found most of the people from that
region very fair.   My wife's family is from Pegueros/Tapitatlan, Jalisco.
And of course, I stood out since I'm a moreno just like my late grandmother
from Zacatecas, Zacatecas.  The people from Tepatitlan and Pegueros were
very cordial, nice, and accommodating, to me and my wife, and my children.

Her uncle claimed their fairness can be attributed to the French influence
left by the French back in the  1860s.  But I corrected him on this.  Most
of the French troops in Mexico were not French but Germans (Hessians) that
were hire by Napoleon to fight the Mexicans. I found no German or French
names in either of the two towns.

If any of group has information on any my wife's family names, Gutierrez,
Padilla, Gonzalez, Casillas, from Los Altos, will you please share it.

Thank you.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.



-----Original Message-----
From

Book

Thanks Steven for this light you bring about Los
Altos. My first visit to Los Altos was to Atotonilco
in 1980 and I was surprised of many relatives on my
Mom's side with blue and green eyes and blonde hair.
Mostly the Abarcas. I was clear to me that the surname
was spanish, but I was misled as this was mostly of
French inheritance and I believed that for a long
time.

Recente research and conversations with some Abarcas
and Valles living here in Los Angeles made me realize
that the region was mostly inhabited by spanish
people, and some indios and mestizos, of course. But
nothing about French presence during Maximiliano's
empire in Mexico in the 1860's.

I recently had a conversation with my uncle Eliseo
Valle (he is 95 years old) and lives in Whittier. He
told me, and correct me if this is incorrect, that
some Hacienda owners in Jalisco were attacked by the
French and they moved to the Highlands running away
from them and established in the region at that time
(1860's).

Looks like

Book

As a long time researcher of Los Altos genealogy, I can honestly say that in reality the majority of the population of Los Altos is really of old Spanish extraction, with the lingering possibility that they were crypto-Jews, hiding the secret all the while.  I simply have never seen any evidence of Judios in alteno records.  Now there were lots of indios, mestizos, mulatos (libres y esclavos), coyotes, lobos, and the usual assortment of castas. 
 
Of the various example of actual Jewish lineage is that of the Ha-Levi family of Burgos, whose lineage later became part of the Cadena, later Zaldivar and On~ate lineages of Zacatecas, Nochistlan.  Another is that of Mariana de Vera y Medina, wife of Conquistador
Gaspar de la Mota y Mena, and later poblador of Nueva Galicia around Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Don~a Mariana was the daughter of Don Juan de Vera, a known Judio converso who later became a Catholic.  Don Juan de Vera, was, if I remember correctly, a member of the Audiencia.  Based

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Book

sounds really interesting. If you get it please send us the table of
contents as a scan. would love to read something like this for the
Colotlan/Santa Maria de Los Angeles area. Thanks for bringing up the
subject. . . .hopefully others will have books they would like to
recommend for their specific geographic area of study within our group
target area. You never know but as different ones bring up their
favorite books it might inspire someone to dig deeper into their history
or provoke a New Years Resolution to study areas that have been neglected.


thanks,

joseph

readysetgo95814 wrote:

I found this book listed in libroslatinos.com; has anyone read it?

EL ORIGEN DE LA POBLACION ALTEÑA by Hernández, Silviano.

Description: On the origins of the population of Los Altos de
Jalisco with much on its Sephardic and Crypto-Jewish (as well as
French) origins.
Publisher: Guadalajara, Secretaría de Cultura Jalisco (Voz de la
Tierra), 2003

Book Condition: 80p., bibl., wrps
Price