% of Films Transcribed to IGI

Joseph;  Yes, I am one of the those volunteers
that does "extraction" from the films for posting. It takes a long time because
I can't do it full time and there are names that I come across that I have never
seen before and have no clue as to what they are. Especially the Indian names
and the ancient fathers spelled names as they sounded.  Two different
fathers will spell a name different for the same person - baptism and later
marriage.  Maybe we haven't gotten to the records in
question yet. It is a slow process.
 
Jose
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:58
PM
Subject: [ranchos] % of Films Transcribed
to IGI

Well I'm thinking about it and I'm taking this discussion to
the group. . .

oh absolutely I understand what you are asking now. Yes
yes it takes volunteers to transscribe the info off of the films to then input
into the IGI and other

Greetings!/Map/Campos/



ooh, I've got family from those areas, but not Alvarez. Also I think
you will find Campos relatives in the group.



just a reminder don't post any genealogies to the group as I don't want
them to become part of the "Public" message archives. We keep the
genealogies in the Private files area of the group. Also don't post
anything with living relatives both for privacy sake and for protection
of identity theft.



Totatiche



joseph



ps: look in the links area for this link to a good map that includes
all of your below locations:



http://www.usgenealogy.net/members/joseph27703/images/goodtepechitlan_colotlanopt.jpg



Helengalion@... wrote:

Hello Irma:
 
Nice to hear from you.  I am pretty
ignorant of Mexico and it's "towns", or "ranchos', as they call them? 
But the areas I know of are Momax, Tlaltenango, Totoletiche(sp?) in
Zacatecas.  In Jalisco, I am not sure, but have been told that the
"ranchos"  border the states of Zacatecas and Jalisco.  One of these is
an

Greetings!

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Hello Irma:

 

Nice to hear from you.  I am pretty ignorant of
Mexico and it's "towns", or "ranchos', as they call them?  But
the areas I know of are Momax, Tlaltenango, Totoletiche(sp?) in Zacatecas. 
In Jalisco, I am not sure, but have been told that the "ranchos"  border
the states of Zacatecas and Jalisco.  One of these is an area called "El
Refugio". 

Also, the "Alvarez" ancestors list is pretty
large and encompasses many surnames.  The strongest is "Campos". 
I will be posting my genealogy as it is to this group and hopefully will find
some connections.  The two names you mentioned are not familiar to me,
but I will check. 

Regards Carol
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Greetings!


face="DellaRobbia BT" size=4>Hi Carol,


face="DellaRobbia BT" size=4>Where in Jalisco are you researching?  There
were/are Alvarez in San Juan de los Lagos, Jal.  They were Alvarez-Tostado
at one time.  Just wondering..


size=4>Irma





From: Helengalion@...
[mailto:Helengalion@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 1:31
PM
To: Ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re:
Greetings!



Hello to Everyone; 

I want to introduce myself; my name is Carol
Lester and I am researching my father's family from the Jalisco, Zacatecas,
Agualicentes areas. In particular, I am researching the "Alvares (z) line. 
I have not been able to locate any live relatives, or even anyone who knew the
family.  I am hoping I will find some connections through this
group.

Regards,

Carol Lester
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Soriano de Zacatecas

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Hola Jeannette:

 

I too have just joined this group and will be posting
my genealogy in the next day or so.  I am searching my line of Alvarez and
actually have apretty extensive paper trail for them.  However, I have not
been able to trace anyone who is living from that side.  I am sure they are
out there.  May I inquire the names of the Alvarez you are
researching?

Regards,

Carol

Soriano de Jerez



just a couple of shots in the dark (down in the middle there it appears
there is a Landeros and a couple of Ultreras, you never know but could
be kin). . .welcome to the group:



35.
JOSE
PIOQUINTO SORIANO CARDONA
- International Genealogical Index


Gender: Male Christening: 05 MAY 1828 Jerez, Jerez De Garcia Salinas,
Zacatecas, Mexico


43.
JOSE
MARCIAL SORIANO CARDONA
- International Genealogical Index


Gender: Male Christening: 09 JUL 1820 Jerez, Jerez De Garcia Salinas,
Zacatecas, Mexico

44.
JOSE
BERNABE SORIANO ESPINOSA
- International Genealogical Index


Gender: Male Christening: 14 JUN 1874 Jerez, Jerez De Garcia Salinas,
Zacatecas, Mexico

20.
MARIA
GERONIMA SORIANO LANDEROS
- International Genealogical Index


Gender: Female Christening: 04 OCT 1821 Jerez, Jerez De Garcia Salinas,
Zacatecas, Mexico

Ranchos Reunion photo

I hope this photograph comes through. If not let me know and I'll try and resend it.

On the left is Rich Cortez, right/back is his wife Kitty. The left /front is Helyn and right/front is yours truly, Alicia.

 

Yesterday in San Jose, Kitty and Rich Cortez, Helyn and myself met at Chevys for the first time. Kitty, Rich and Helyn the experienced genealogists shared many of their tips and secrets for researching while in Salt Lake. I discovered that one of the reasons I'm not moving as fast as most people are is that the area of Nochistlan does not have many records extracted or at least not as many as the other parts of Jalisco and Zacatecas.

 

Rich, Kitty and Helyn, thanks so much for your help and support, I came home yesterday evening and spent hours on the internet doing research and formatting my documents to take to Salt Lake in three weeks, according to Kitty's tried and tested methods.

 

Alicia

 

 

IMG_0233.JPG

 

 

JPEG image

Help Please Help

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Joseph,

 

I remember seeing a "Juliacan" sign while I was driving from Aguascalientes
to Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco many years ago.

 

Hope this helps,

Ken

Welcome, Jeannette was Re: [ranchos] Soriano de Zacatecas

Welcome to the group, Jeannette!  I have families from the Jerez area as well, but I definitely wanted to say hi to someone with family from my hometown, Ontario, CA.  I don't live there now, but many of my families moved from Jalisco and Zacatecas to Ontario in 1900--1920.  Many members of my families live in that area still.  I do not see any of my family names on your list, but it's nice to meet someone with connections to Ontario.

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
From: heliotropx
Sent: Feb 20, 2005 5:01 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Soriano de Zacatecas


Hola!

I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my mother and I just
started researching into our family's roots and we would love to learn
and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez
and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los Angeles/Ontario,
CA area.  However, my father's family is from La Ermita de Guadalupe,
a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the following surnames
fr

Soriano de Zacatecas

Welcome.  My father's side of the family was also from
Jerez, Zacatecas--great people.

Alberto.

--- heliotropx 
wrote:

> 
> Hola!
> 
> I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my
> mother and I just
> started researching into our family's roots and we
> would love to learn
> and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette
> Soriano Gonzalez
> and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los
> Angeles/Ontario,
> CA area.  However, my father's family is from La
> Ermita de Guadalupe,
> a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the
> following surnames
> from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo &
> Landeros.  My mother's
> father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San
> Gabriel), JAL.  The
> surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and
> Baltazar.   My
> mother's mother family moved around a lot, but they
> originated from
> Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo
> (sp?).  The names
> I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza

Soriano de Zacatecas

Hola!

I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my mother and I just
started researching into our family's roots and we would love to learn
and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez
and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los Angeles/Ontario,
CA area.  However, my father's family is from La Ermita de Guadalupe,
a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the following surnames
from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo & Landeros.  My mother's
father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San Gabriel), JAL.  The
surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and Baltazar.   My
mother's mother family moved around a lot, but they originated from
Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo (sp?).  The names
I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza, Ramirez & Salazar. 

I'm looking forward to reading through the list and putting our
geneology line up once we input into the Family Tree Maker software we
bought recently!  Would appreciate any

% of Films Transcribed to IGI

Well I'm thinking about it and I'm taking this discussion to the group.
. .



oh absolutely I understand what you are asking now. Yes yes it takes
volunteers to transscribe the info off of the films to then input into
the IGI and other databases. When it comes down to it I'm sure that
only a very small % of the films available are online. If you want
Valpariso maybe you should call SLC and ask them about it. . .hey maybe
you could be one of the volunteer transcribers though it would take an
enormous amount of time. I'm going to forward this conversation to
Jonathan Walker to see if he might care to comment.



Jonathan what % of the films would you guess are on the IGI? This
discussion started because we couldn't find any info on those PDF files
for Valparaiso.



Jonathan. . .Do you know if there is a list of films on microfiche
available for Mexico but not necessarily transcribed onto the IGI?



thanks,



joseph







esteban vela wrote:

Joseph,
 
Problem is that I don't find any

Valparaiso missing Batch Numbers

Joseph,
About not finding Valparaiso Batch numbers, I've also reviewed the 
Jalisco_ZacatecasOPT.pdf files in the ranchos2 section and didn't 
find them.

However in FAMILY HISTORY LIBRARY CATALOG it lists the following:
--------------------------------------------------
Title Registros parroquiales, 1831-1973 
Authors Iglesia Católica. La Purísima (Valparaíso, Zacatecas) (Main 
Author) 
Notes Microfilme de manuscritos en los archivos de la parroquia y del 
Obispado de Zacatecas.
Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.
Incluye registros de capillas cercanas en la hacienda (ahora el 
pueblo) de San Mateo, en la hacienda (ahora el ejido) de San Miguel, 
y otras capillas cercanas.
Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages and deaths 
from Valparaíso, Zacatecas, Mexico. 

Subjects  Mexico, Zacatecas, Valparaíso - Church records
Mexico, Zacatecas, San Mateo - Church records
Mexico, Zacatecas, San Miguel - Church records  

Format  Manuscript (On Film)  
Language  Spanish

Hacienda La Trinidad, Zacatecas

perfectly acceptable. . .if i had relatives from that place and i had
some chump change like that weighing me down I'd certainly like to know
so I could add it to my collection of family memorabilia.


thanks for the message. . .keep them coming. As long as they are related
to our target area or info that is general enough to be of value to all
areas of Mexican research this group is wide open. . .bring on the info!!!


thanks,

joseph

Natalie wrote:

Occasionally, when bored, I check out Ebay.  Today I noticed that the
Hacienda "La Trinidad", said to be in Zacatecas, was for sale on Ebay
- only $850,000.00.  Anyone have ancestors from this hacienda? (If
this is an unacceptable message for the Ranchos board, please remove
and forgive.)
-Natalie






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Hacienda La Trinidad, Zacatecas

Occasionally, when bored, I check out Ebay.  Today I noticed that the
Hacienda "La Trinidad", said to be in Zacatecas, was for sale on Ebay
- only $850,000.00.  Anyone have ancestors from this hacienda? (If
this is an unacceptable message for the Ranchos board, please remove
and forgive.)
-Natalie




1876 Map of Jalisco/Jonathan's Resource Disk

yes I'll do that but as i was told that this town is now a ghost town.
but just in case it still survives i'll have a look. What I need to do
is search a good old map say from back in the early 1900's or earlier.
I've got one that was sent to me by Gloria Delgado from the 1876 time
period. I need to go and study that map. thanks for your message
because it clarified what I had said in my own mind that this will be
the only way to find this town. Or maybe in that online dictionary in
the links area. thanks for any comments as the give me ideas.



thanks,



joseph



ps: I'm continually amazed at how much information is on your resource
disk. If anyone is interested in receiving a disk packed with info on
our target area and all of Mexico write to Jonathan for the cost
details. Well worth the price. jonathan@...





mexicanfhr wrote:

Joseph,

Use the Resource disk, that I sent you.  go to the geographical index,
look under Jalisco, and click on the 2000 census info.  It is a .pdf
file

Help Please Help

Joseph,

Use the Resource disk, that I sent you.  go to the geographical index,
look under Jalisco, and click on the 2000 census info.  It is a .pdf
file.  Open the search option, and try a combination of letters, and
see if you find you town.

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> oooh, oooh, oooh!!!! I just got off the phone from collecting some 
> critical Oral history from an Aunt that has been very very reluctant to 
> talk to me about her mother or my one and only Solid Brick Wall:
Antonia 
> Lopez. I got confirmation that Antonia Lopez is indeed her name. she is 
> my maternal grandmother! Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> anyway now here is the most important information that she gave me:
> 
> she said that she was from a town that sounds like Juclaclan 
> (who-cla-clan).
> 
> Can all of those that have great imaginations and have studied your 
> specific areas of Jalisco send me any town, pueblos, ranchos or
anything 
> that even

Help Please Help

I'm happy for you.  Maybe someday I can be as
successful.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> oooh, oooh, oooh!!!! I just got off the phone from
> collecting some 
> critical Oral history from an Aunt that has been
> very very reluctant to 
> talk to me about her mother or my one and only Solid
> Brick Wall: Antonia 
> Lopez. I got confirmation that Antonia Lopez is
> indeed her name. she is 
> my maternal grandmother! Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> anyway now here is the most important information
> that she gave me:
> 
> she said that she was from a town that sounds like
> Juclaclan 
> (who-cla-clan).
> 
> Can all of those that have great imaginations and
> have studied your 
> specific areas of Jalisco send me any town, pueblos,
> ranchos or anything 
> that even remotely sounds like Juclaclan.
> 
> Boy if I could just break this one line I would be
> so far in heaven you 
> might not hear from me again.
> 
> I can't believe it I really can't. . .this aunt just
> opened

Help Please Help



oooh, oooh, oooh!!!! I just got off the phone from collecting some
critical Oral history from an Aunt that has been very very reluctant to
talk to me about her mother or my one and only Solid Brick Wall:
Antonia Lopez. I got confirmation that Antonia Lopez is indeed her
name. she is my maternal grandmother! Hurrah!!!!!!!!!!!!!



anyway now here is the most important information that she gave me:



she said that she was from a town that sounds like Juclaclan
(who-cla-clan).



Can all of those that have great imaginations and
have studied your specific areas of Jalisco send me any town, pueblos,
ranchos or anything that even remotely sounds like Juclaclan.





Boy if I could just break this one line I would be so far in heaven you
might not hear from me again.



I can't believe it I really can't. . .this aunt just opened right up
and talked to me so natural. I think she saw how persistent I had been
all the while not being pushy to get info from her. I would just
occassionally call and

Valparaiso URL

Title: Re: [ranchos] Valparaiso URL

Joseph,



There is another URL for Valparaiso: http://www.portalvalparaiso.com/portal/. Maybe you have discussed it previously.



Ed





On 2/20/05 8:54 AM, "Joseph Puentes" wrote:






http://valparaisozac.webcindario.com/



thanks to Victor Villarreal we have this great URL in the links area

under "Pueblos on the web." especially look at the link "Numeros

Importantes" there are some Casetas listed. . .I wish I could find a

list of Casetas for other places in our target area. Anyone know of a

URL that would list the Casetas Mexico wide? Or at least for Jalisco?



thanks Victor,



joseph







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Valparaiso URL


http://valparaisozac.webcindario.com/

thanks to Victor Villarreal we have this great URL in the links area
under "Pueblos on the web." especially look at the link "Numeros
Importantes" there are some Casetas listed. . .I wish I could find a
list of Casetas for other places in our target area. Anyone know of a
URL that would list the Casetas Mexico wide? Or at least for Jalisco?


thanks Victor,

joseph



Valparaiso

Well I was surprised that Valparaiso doesn't seem to have Batch
Numbers. . .at least that I can find. In my search I found this misc.
information that might be totally unrelated then again maybe not:


IGI
Individual Record
FamilySearch™
International Genealogical Index v5.0
  Mexico
Search
Results
  | Download | Pedigree

JOSE GARCIA ALCALA
  Male    

Event(s):
Birth: 
19 MAR 1894  

New links - Pueblos on the Web

yes great idea. . .a lot of the sites have a equivilent to sign a "guest
book" option. Here you can see a variety of people who have visited the
site. Most don't live there now but probably still have relatives that
live there. Also if you start by contacting the ones with the particular
surnames you are researching who knows but you might be contacting a
lost branch of your family.


Thanks Victor for the addition of towns to the lists and the
encouragement to contact our places of origen (at least as far as we know).


joseph

Victor Villarreal wrote:

Hello All,

Just to let you know that I've added a few more links on the Jalisco
and Zacatecas folders. If you haven't browsed by those folders
lately I suggest you do.

There are some very good sites and I would encourage everyone to try
to make some contacts via email if you haven't already done so. Who
knows...? maybe one day you'll have a chance to travel down south
and visit some of those towns and you'll have

New links - Pueblos on the Web

Hello All,

Just to let you know that I've added a few more links on the Jalisco 
and Zacatecas folders.  If you haven't browsed by those folders 
lately I suggest you do.  

There are some very good sites and I would encourage everyone to try 
to make some contacts via email if you haven't already done so.  Who 
knows...?  maybe one day you'll have a chance to travel down south 
and visit some of those towns and you'll have somebody waiting for 
you.  Wouldn't that be nice?

Victor





Greetings!

face="DellaRobbia BT" color=#0000a0 size=4>

Hello to Everyone; 

I want to introduce myself; my name is Carol
Lester and I am researching my father's family from the Jalisco, Zacatecas,
Agualicentes areas. In particular, I am researching the "Alvares (z) line. 
I have not been able to locate any live relatives, or even anyone who knew the
family.  I am hoping I will find some connections through this
group.

Regards,

Carol Lester
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