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> Hi Olivia,

It is great to count you in as another cousin. It looks like our closest
common ancestors are Diego and Petrona, while you and Tino share Mariana
Delgadillo as your closest common ancestor.

I descend from Diego and Petrona's daughter *Thomasa Delgadillo* m. Diego
Juarez > *Josepha Manuela Juarez* m. Nicolas Vazquez > *Rosa Maria Vazquez*
m. Francisco Xavier Delgado > *Jose Andres Delgado *m. Maria Luisa Alonso >
*Simona Delgado* m. Gregorio Perez > *Marciala Perez *m. Esteban Soto
> *Maximiano
Soto* (my great-grandfather)

Maria

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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Diego Delgadillo Ancestry
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Message-ID: <20060719174720.5297.qmail@web50112.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Hi Maria, Enrique & Tino,
> It appears that I too have a common line with you. My line descends from
> Petron de Islas>Mariana Delgadillo>Mariana Flores de Medrano>Maria Diaz
> Montanez>Juana Josepha Gonzalez>Juan Baptista Sandoval>Maria Rumualda de
> Guadalupe Sandoval & Joseph Theodoro Jauregui>Salvador de J??uregui>Jose
> Victoria X??uregui-my great-grandfather.
>
> Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes
> Rowland Hts, CA
>
> Maria Cortez wrote: This is great. It's the second
> time I find the same common line with two
> different Ranchos members. The first time it was my Casta???eda line from
> Zacatecas and now the Delgadillos from Nochistlan.
>
> Maria
>

Joseph,

My Castañedas were from La Estanzuela, Zac. I connected with Anna Arellano
(wife of Jose Muñoz) who is/was a member of NuestrosRanchos and the other
was Carol Lester. The three of us descended from three different children
of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre. I am also thinking that
one day I might tie in to Helyn's Castañeda's line, but only time will tell.

Maria

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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:31:31 -0500
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Castanedas???: was-Diego Delgadillo
> Ancestry
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
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> OK fess up who is your Casta?eda cousin and from where. give us some
> details. Are you related to Helyn's Casta?edas from Tlaltenango?
>
> I've got some Casta?eda's from Cuculiten, but I don't know a lot about
> them.
>
> joseph
>
>
> Maria Cortez wrote:
>
> >This is great. It's the second time I find the same common line with two
> >different Ranchos members. The first time it was my Casta?eda line from
> >Zacatecas and now the Delgadillos from Nochistlan.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

I am a descendant of a Castaneda lineage from Tlaltenango as well... I have traced this lineage back to the 1600s...

Antonio DE CASTANEDA

Father: Antonio DE CASTANEDA
Mother: Mariana PEREZ

Wife: Catalina GONZALEZ
Married 17 Nov 1711 Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas
Children
> 1. Diego Santos CASTANEDA
2. Andrea DE CASTANEDA
3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1712
4. Juan CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1718

Source: Tlaltenango Marriages 1704-1754
"Antonio de Castaneda mulato libre hijo legitimo de Antonio de Castaneda y de Mariana Perez ya difunta con Catalina Gonzalez espanola hija legitima de Diego Gonzalez y de Catalina Ponce. padrinos Rafael de Guera??? y Juan Gonzalez. Testigos Don Francisco Bracamontes y Mathias Castellon."

Arturo, this record is another example of how the caste system was not as strict as Mexican history implies. I also have lineage of Mulato Libre's who marry Espanoles. Everything I read says caste systems were not to be crossed but the marriage records say otherwise.. just an observation.
Linda in B.C.

arturoramos wrote:

I am a descendant of a Castaneda lineage from Tlaltenango as well... I have traced this lineage back to the 1600s...

Antonio DE CASTANEDA

Father: Antonio DE CASTANEDA
Mother: Mariana PEREZ

Wife: Catalina GONZALEZ
Married 17 Nov 1711 Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas
Children
> 1. Diego Santos CASTANEDA
2. Andrea DE CASTANEDA
3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1712
4. Juan CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1718

Source: Tlaltenango Marriages 1704-1754
"Antonio de Castaneda mulato libre hijo legitimo de Antonio de Castaneda y de Mariana Perez ya difunta con Catalina Gonzalez espanola hija legitima de Diego Gonzalez y de Catalina Ponce. padrinos Rafael de Guera??? y Juan Gonzalez. Testigos Don Francisco Bracamontes y Mathias Castellon."

Good Day!!!! The names listed below are also my directs, as well for Angie Godina. I have not submitted this line as I have a glitch just down the line a bit, that I have not been able to resolve for a few years.
I also have the information listed below, do believe I shared it with Angie.
Arturo, are we now double cousins?
Saludos, Helyn

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Arturo, this record is another example of how the caste system was not as strict as Mexican history implies. I also have lineage of Mulato Libre's who marry Espanoles. Everything I read says caste systems were not to be crossed but the marriage records say otherwise.. just an observation.
Linda in B.C.

arturoramos wrote:

I am a descendant of a Castaneda lineage from Tlaltenango as well... I have traced this lineage back to the 1600s...

Antonio DE CASTANEDA

Father: Antonio DE CASTANEDA
Mother: Mariana PEREZ

Wife: Catalina GONZALEZ
Married 17 Nov 1711 Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas
Children
> 1. Diego Santos CASTANEDA
2. Andrea DE CASTANEDA
3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1712
4. Juan CASTANEDA GONZALEZ, b. 1718

Source: Tlaltenango Marriages 1704-1754
"Antonio de Castaneda mulato libre hijo legitimo de Antonio de Castaneda y de Mariana Perez ya difunta con Catalina Gonzalez espanola hija legitima de Diego Gonzalez y de Catalina Ponce. padrinos Rafael de Guera??? y Juan Gonzalez. Testigos Don Francisco Bracamontes y Mathias Castellon."

Helyn:

I am sure we are cousins through more lines that the Bugarins and Castanedas. I just looked at your surname listing and I also have many other surnames you have on the list and they all go back to Tlaltenango/Colotlan/Jerez in the 1600s: Campos, Carlos de Godoy, etc. You should take a look in my database and see where else we might be connected. I am related to Angie in several ways and to Rosalinda in about 26 different ways. All of us come from the sae group of families who were in the area back then... there weren't that many of them so I have come to believe that basically anyone whose family goes back that far in the area is basically related to everyone else.

I am sure the same phenomenon exists with the early families in Los Altos, etc.

Yes, Helyn, Arturo and I share the same Castenada family.

I have been keep a running tally of all the connections I have made and I think I am related to about 11 ranchos members...

And all the families are related... like that one article said there is only a finite number of people and if you count the number of ancestors we had 300 years ago some of them are bound to repeat...several repeat within my own line :-)

Angie Godina

Angie (I'm one of your 11 Ranchos primos) can you make a database of who
you are related to? The kind of database where others can enter in
their info and who they are related to as well. that way we can see how
many ranchos members are related to each other.

I actually remember back when we were on Yahoo that you did this. Is
that file still on the Ranchos site.

Could something like that be done fairly easily on Excell?

joseph

aajay1073 wrote:

>Yes, Helyn, Arturo and I share the same Castenada family.
>
>I have been keep a running tally of all the connections I have made and I think I am related to about 11 ranchos members...
>
>And all the families are related... like that one article said there is only a finite number of people and if you count the number of ancestors we had 300 years ago some of them are bound to repeat...several repeat within my own line :-)
>
>Angie Godina
>

if you are in contact with those people can you ask them if they still
want to be part of the group. I haven't heard from them for a while.

thanks,

joseph

ps: I'm thinking I might be a Castaneda in Helyn's line as well but only
a guess as I really don't have any evidence.

Maria Cortez wrote:

>Joseph,
>
>My Castañedas were from La Estanzuela, Zac. I connected with Anna Arellano
>(wife of Jose Muñoz) who is/was a member of NuestrosRanchos and the other
>was Carol Lester. The three of us descended from three different children
>of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre. I am also thinking that
>one day I might tie in to Helyn's Castañeda's line, but only time will tell.
>
>Maria
>
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>
>
>>Message: 8
>>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:31:31 -0500
>>From: Joseph Puentes
>>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Castanedas???: was-Diego Delgadillo
>> Ancestry
>>To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
>>Message-ID: <44BE7A83.2060908@nc.rr.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>OK fess up who is your Casta?eda cousin and from where. give us some
>>details. Are you related to Helyn's Casta?edas from Tlaltenango?
>>
>>I've got some Casta?eda's from Cuculiten, but I don't know a lot about
>>them.
>>
>>joseph
>>
>>
>>Maria Cortez wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>This is great. It's the second time I find the same common line with two
>>>different Ranchos members. The first time it was my Casta?eda line from
>>>Zacatecas and now the Delgadillos from Nochistlan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

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