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I just received a message from the manager of Indexing Operations of FamilySearchIndexing in Salt Lake City and he has informed me that they have Mexico projects on their docket for the online indexing project they have started.

I have asked him for more information and will try to keep abreast of when the projects go online and notify the group. I know that there are several members that have already done some indexing, but for those who have not and think this might be a worthwhile project for which to volunteer, please go to:

htttp://www.familysearchindexing.com

You can download the software and try indexing some census pages to give the system a trial run in preparation for the Mexico project. It would be great if we as a group could make a significant contribution to a project like this.

I have the following limited information regarding these two names. My grandfather, Manuel Chavez (DOB 2 June 1904)is the son of Enrique Chavez and Genobeba Romero. Enrique's parents are Jacinto Chavez and Guadalupe Ruiz Esparza. All I have for Guadalupe is Father Ruiz and Mother Esparza. Enrique was born in 1868 and died in 1960. He lived and was laid to rest in Gomez Palacios which is in Durango. I have a photo of Guadalupe with her son Enrique.

Zacatecas is close to Durango, but it may be a stretch.
Henry Chavez

Arturo,

Is it a requirement that you be an LDS member? If it is, this would most likely exclude many of us.

Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:30:06 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexico Projects Upcoming on FamilySearchIndexing.com

I just received a message from the manager of Indexing Operations of FamilySearchIndexing in Salt Lake City and he has informed me that they have Mexico projects on their docket for the online indexing project they have started.

I have asked him for more information and will try to keep abreast of when the projects go online and notify the group. I know that there are several members that have already done some indexing, but for those who have not and think this might be a worthwhile project for which to volunteer, please go to:

htttp://www.familysearchindexing.com

You can download the software and try indexing some census pages to give the system a trial run in preparation for the Mexico project. It would be great if we as a group could make a significant contribution to a project like this.

Alicia, et al.

No it is not necessary to be an LDS member to participate in the online indexing projects. As with the family history library resources, they are open to the general public.

I have done a few census pages myself just to try out the system and one of the main reasons why they have been pushing the digitization of films and the online indexing technologies is so that they can expand the base of volunteers that they use for extraction.

Everyone, if you have not yet tried out the indexing software, I encourage you to do so. It is pretty nifty.

Arturo,

Just how do you join/do the online indexing for LDS. It sounds very interesting and I would like to know more about it.Thanks!!!!!!!!

Juanita

arturoramos wrote:

Alicia, et al.

No it is not necessary to be an LDS member to participate in the online indexing projects. As with the family history library resources, they are open to the general public.

I have done a few census pages myself just to try out the system and one of the main reasons why they have been pushing the digitization of films and the online indexing technologies is so that they can expand the base of volunteers that they use for extraction.

Everyone, if you have not yet tried out the indexing software, I encourage you to do so. It is pretty nifty.

For Juanita and anyone else who wants to get involved in the online indexing project, I strongly encourage you to do so.

All that is required is a PC (they do not support Mac at this point) and a DSL or Cable internet connection (the image scans are large files that will take too long to download via a modem).

You can then go to http://www.familysearchindexing.com

and download the software, register for an account as a volunteer and as soon as your application is approved (very quick) you can begin downloading scans to index. It would be very helpful if members of the group got familiar with the online indexing software and system before the Mexico projects come up so that we have a group ready to go when they do come up.

I have done U.S. Census pages from New York and Ohio and it is pretty straight forward.

Arturo,

I applied for the family search indexing and today I received my username and password, next I will download the software and I'll tell you how it goes............I know i'm crazy for adding one more thing to my already very busy as in overloaded schedule.

Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:46:45 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FamilySearchIndexing.com

For Juanita and anyone else who wants to get involved in the online indexing project, I strongly encourage you to do so.

All that is required is a PC (they do not support Mac at this point) and a DSL or Cable internet connection (the image scans are large files that will take too long to download via a modem).

You can then go to http://www.familysearchindexing.com

and download the software, register for an account as a volunteer and as soon as your application is approved (very quick) you can begin downloading scans to index. It would be very helpful if members of the group got familiar with the online indexing software and system before the Mexico projects come up so that we have a group ready to go when they do come up.

I have done U.S. Census pages from New York and Ohio and it is pretty straight forward.

Not long ago I registered with Nuestros Ranchos; I am trying to find
information on Esparza & Chavez from Zacatecas. However, I have no idea how
to even begin using this site or what this family search indexing is...

Thanks

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: 03/21/2007 9:40 PM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FamilySearchIndexing.com

Arturo,

I applied for the family search indexing and today I received my username
and password, next I will download the software and I'll tell you how it
goes............I know i'm crazy for adding one more thing to my already
very busy as in overloaded schedule.

Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:46:45 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FamilySearchIndexing.com

For Juanita and anyone else who wants to get involved in the online indexing
project, I strongly encourage you to do so.

All that is required is a PC (they do not support Mac at this point) and a
DSL or Cable internet connection (the image scans are large files that will
take too long to download via a modem).

You can then go to http://www.familysearchindexing.com

and download the software, register for an account as a volunteer and as
soon as your application is approved (very quick) you can begin downloading
scans to index. It would be very helpful if members of the group got
familiar with the online indexing software and system before the Mexico
projects come up so that we have a group ready to go when they do come up.

I have done U.S. Census pages from New York and Ohio and it is pretty
straight forward.

Mary, welcome to the group. Where in Zacatecas are your Esparsa and Chavez families from? What time line were they in Zacatecas?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Not long ago I registered with Nuestros Ranchos; I am trying to find
information on Esparza & Chavez from Zacatecas. However, I have no idea how
to even begin using this site or what this family search indexing is...

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
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Linda,

What I know is

My Grandfather Tereso Esparza was born on or about October 15, 1884 in
Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

My Great Grandparents Crus Esparsa and Ma. De Jesus Chaves were married
01 JUN 1883 San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

He had a brother Jose and a nephew Lucito...

That's all I know

Thanks

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Erlinda
Castanon-Long
Sent: 03/22/2007 10:40 AM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Esparza and Chavez in Zacatecas Mexico

Mary, welcome to the group. Where in Zacatecas are your Esparsa and Chavez
families from? What time line were they in Zacatecas?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Not long ago I registered with Nuestros Ranchos; I am trying to find
information on Esparza & Chavez from Zacatecas. However, I have no idea how
to even begin using this site or what this family search indexing is...

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

Mary, I was hoping I could help you but it's a different part of Zacatecas than I work on.. maybe someone else is working on Chalchihuites, by the way, where is that? What's the closest large town? Have you checked the members files to see who's working this area?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Linda,

What I know is

My Grandfather Tereso Esparza was born on or about October 15, 1884 in
Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

My Great Grandparents Crus Esparsa and Ma. De Jesus Chaves were married
01 JUN 1883 San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

He had a brother Jose and a nephew Lucito...

That's all I know

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
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Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.

Mary, I just checked the Internationl Genealogy Index (IGI) on Familysearch and since your gr-grandparents marriage is listed with a film number is there a history center near your home for you to order the film from? That would give you their parents and information you don't already have. If you haven't used the center before they are very helpful and always glad to help a newcommer.
Linda in Everett

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Mary, I was hoping I could help you but it's a different part of Zacatecas than I work on.. maybe someone else is working on Chalchihuites, by the way, where is that? What's the closest large town? Have you checked the members files to see who's working this area?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Linda,

What I know is

My Grandfather Tereso Esparza was born on or about October 15, 1884 in
Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

My Great Grandparents Crus Esparsa and Ma. De Jesus Chaves were married
01 JUN 1883 San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

He had a brother Jose and a nephew Lucito...

That's all I know

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast
with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

I will check into that...

Thanks for your help

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Erlinda
Castanon-Long
Sent: 03/22/2007 12:00 PM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Esparza and Chavez in Zacatecas Mexico

Mary, I just checked the Internationl Genealogy Index (IGI) on Familysearch
and since your gr-grandparents marriage is listed with a film number is
there a history center near your home for you to order the film from? That
would give you their parents and information you don't already have. If you
haven't used the center before they are very helpful and always glad to help
a newcommer.
Linda in Everett

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Mary, I was hoping I could help you but it's a different part of Zacatecas
than I work on.. maybe someone else is working on Chalchihuites, by the way,
where is that? What's the closest large town? Have you checked the members
files to see who's working this area?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Linda,

What I know is

My Grandfather Tereso Esparza was born on or about October 15, 1884 in
Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

My Great Grandparents Crus Esparsa and Ma. De Jesus Chaves were married
01 JUN 1883 San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico

He had a brother Jose and a nephew Lucito...

That's all I know

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast
with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.

Mary,
I am a new-comer to the group. At first I was just lost, seeing all these messages between these very smart and savvy people. They talked about things I had no idea of, but I am learning from all of them. And it is not a bore reading through them, but a pleasure because you see how much dedication is put into all these searches. Just don't give up.

I am researching in Zacatecas, also. I have a Chavez in the family, so who knows we may each be able to contribute to one another.

Juanita

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Mary, welcome to the group. Where in Zacatecas are your Esparsa and Chavez families from? What time line were they in Zacatecas?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Not long ago I registered with Nuestros Ranchos; I am trying to find
information on Esparza & Chavez from Zacatecas. However, I have no idea how
to even begin using this site or what this family search indexing is...

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

Juanita,

Thank you so much, I read and read and see how dedicated everyone is. I
will continue to read and take advice and see where it leads me.

Thank you

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of juanita
delgado
Sent: 03/22/2007 12:20 PM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Esparza and Chavez in Zacatecas Mexico

Mary,
I am a new-comer to the group. At first I was just lost, seeing all these
messages between these very smart and savvy people. They talked about things
I had no idea of, but I am learning from all of them. And it is not a bore
reading through them, but a pleasure because you see how much dedication is
put into all these searches. Just don't give up.

I am researching in Zacatecas, also. I have a Chavez in the family, so who
knows we may each be able to contribute to one another.

Juanita

Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
Mary, welcome to the group. Where in Zacatecas are your Esparsa and Chavez
families from? What time line were they in Zacatecas?
Linda in Everett

rmcano@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Not long ago I registered with Nuestros Ranchos; I am trying to find
information on Esparza & Chavez from Zacatecas. However, I have no idea how
to even begin using this site or what this family search indexing is...

Thanks

Mary

---------------------------------
We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love
(and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

For the DNA experts out there:

I am very much interested in getting my DNA. I have a question. Recently, my great-granddaughter got DNA testing for a paternity issue. Is that information valuable, not valuable,etc. for genealogy purposes?

Also, where would I get the test?

Thanks for any information. Juanita

arturoramos wrote:

Alicia, et al.

No it is not necessary to be an LDS member to participate in the online indexing projects. As with the family history library resources, they are open to the general public.

I have done a few census pages myself just to try out the system and one of the main reasons why they have been pushing the digitization of films and the online indexing technologies is so that they can expand the base of volunteers that they use for extraction.

Everyone, if you have not yet tried out the indexing software, I encourage you to do so. It is pretty nifty.

Mary and Juanita:

It is great to have you in the group and whenever you feel lost please, please ask questions... For anyone new to the group, I suggest you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide (Files - Reference Materials). While it is still not yet complete, it will give you a good starting point.

Mary, as Linda mentioned, your great-great grandparents are listed in the IGI and that means that you can easily order the film where their marriage is recorded and find out where they were born and what their parents' names were. Just go to the nearest family history center and order Film 0605005.

There are also some Chalchihuites films listed in our Films section:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/films/Zacatecas/2007

CRUS ESPARSA
Marriages:
Spouse: MA. DE JESUS CHAVES Family
Marriage: 01 JUN 1883 San Pedro, Chalchihuites, Zacatecas, Mexico
Batch No.: M601021 Film No. 0605005

FYI Chalchihuites is named after the ruins of what is believed to be a Toltec settlement... probably a trading post for the trade routes to what is now the American Southwest. That is definitive proof that Mesoamerican civilization reached as far north as Zacatecas at some point.

Juanita:

As far as DNA tests, the ones that are valuable for genealogical purposes are Y-DNA and MtDNA tests. That is because these parts of the DNA fingerprint are immutable from generation to generation except for mutations, i.e. offspring have the same Y-DNA as their father and the same MtDNA as their mother instead of half of each as is the case with most of the DNA fingerprint.

I am not sure what they test in a paternity test for a female child as females do not get the Y chromosome from their fathers and thus cannot have a Y-DNA test done.

If your great granddaughter is your descendant through your daughter's daughter she would have the same MtDNA as you and your mother and your mother's mother. MtDNA mutates much more slowly that Y-DNA.

I would recommend getting the test done with Family Tree DNA either directly or through the Human Genographic project:

http://www.familytreedna.com/

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic

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