I am the one that originally asked these questions. I have not rec'd or found any answers though I am speculating that they may be brothers. I have connected the villalpandos from nochistlan, Jalostotitlan, and Taos what is now New mexico of the USA

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From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of Daniel M?ndez del Camino
Sent: Mon 3/2/2009 9:26 PM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] genealogy errors

Hi Ricci, I am confused how is Tomás related to Gabriel? SOn brother? Tomás married in 1677. Also, are is this Villalpando family related to the Fernández de Villalpando in the Nochistlán and Pinos and Aguas area? I always thought they did but never looked into it. I have one F. de Villalpando line in Pinos. -Daniel Camino

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I cannot answer for that claim of Alonso Perestorello since I have questioned it from the beginning. They seemed to get started on that route with the mistake that it is two last names written as Peres Torello. It may have orginated that way many years before but I doubt it. The Perstorello family name was originally Pallestrelli in Genoa.

The perestorello family were like the mendozas in that they intermarried over and over again among cousins. In this case it was the perestorello rodriguez and ferriera families intermarrying repeatedly.

You see this among my side of the gutierrez family. My greatgrandfather Emeterio Romo Gutierrez's parents were 2nd cousins and 3rd cousins. The gutierrez romo jimenez gonzalez family of that part of jalos intermarried repeatedly. That is why you see those names repeatedly inSanto toribio's family. Kind of like the martin and barba family, and more recently the alvarez and casillas families.

It continued with my tio Lupe Romo who married maria luisa Romo, the sister of Jorge romo barba the author of a recent history and genealogy book of the Valle de Gpe. . Lupe and Maria Luisa (Guicha) are 2nd cousins. Their children are romo romo or as I call them romo quadrado. romo squared. i thought i would add that since today is square root day, 3/3/09 and I am a math teacher. I really did call them that as a teenager and they took it as an offense though it was said in jest. the comment still comes up in family gatherings.

I remember that I heard as a kid that someone was getting married and an aunt from the valle de Gpe. responded " how dare she marry that man, he is not even family" of course she said this in spanish.

The perestorello family had a jewish background and they tended to marry among those with the same background or at least those that were more tolerant of interculture marriage. This tolerance usually came because you knew that somewhere in your own recent history there is a interculture marriage.

The intolerance of intercultural marriage seems to build up the farther away it is in a persons history or ancestry.

as to the mendoza family chart there is an extensive one, though not anywhere complete (many missing daughters that I have had to add) in that SHARR journal where I originally found this information.

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