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Question about Immigration records--Laredo, TX

I live walking distance to NARA.  I can probably make it over 
sometime this week and look at the film for you.

There was somebody else in the group that I had promised to look 
for.  Can you please help out my memory.  It was a few months back 
but I have not been back since then.


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Chris Pineda  wrote:
>
> I know that NARA has the following record available,
> but I was unable to determine if I can order it
> through my local family history center. It doesn't
> appear that I can.
> 
> "A3379. Nonstatistical Manifests Statistical Index
> Cards of Aliens Arriving at Laredo, Texas, May
> 1903-November 1929. 112 rolls. 16mm.---ROLL 77" 
> 
> at:
> http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/microfilm/2005.html#a3379
> 
> I'd prefer not to pay $65 to NARA for a roll that I'm
> not even sure has information on my
> great-grandparents: Nicanor Pineda and Emilia
> Gonzalez. They came from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas to
> Laredo in the 1920s. Can anyone help

New Member/A personal perspective





Jessica Castaneda wrote:

Thanks for
the suggestion. I am sitting
here trying to get started and I guess the best thing would be just to
start
ordering the films

be a sneeker, "Just do it." Sacrifice a movie and just order two films.
It will take some time but go through them frame by frame. If you have
a digital camera take it with you and copy the records for each surname
your family also holds in comon. . .later you might recognize it as
being one of your own family members if you don't recongnize it right
away. Make sure you collect oral history as complete as you can with
regards to your husbands siblings, parents, aunts, uncles, and
grandparents and siblings.



guestimate the ages if you don't have an index. if he the person you
are looking for was first born then figure his parents were in the
range of 15-25 unless one or both parents are getting remarried. and
figure they had kids on average of 9-18 months between.



and yes your husband was

Help with Questions/Immigration Records

Thanks, Carol! Marge:)

On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Carol Turner wrote:


Marge, I'm not sure regarding our NARA records, it's

been almost two years since I've been there viewing

the Eagle Pass microfilm, and at that time they didn't

have El Paso films.  I was told to contact NARA in TX.

I may put in a call tomorrow and find out and I'll

keep you posted, they may have these films now.  I

hate to tell you this but Eagle Pass had about 26 or

more rolls of film, I'm sure I went through 4 rolls

just to check for Muro's in a three (1908-1911) time

frame.  When I call, I'll find out who has El Paso

films and how they are indexed. 



--- Margarita Vallazza wrote:



> Carol, I thought our NARA here had El Paso records.

> The 1930 Census

> states that my grandmother came to El Paso in 1913

> and my grandfather

> in 1918, so would I have to order 2 sets of records

> to come to KC's

> NARA or what?  Thanks.  Marge:)

> On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Carol

double surnames and Cultural Identity

I always say, I am Mexican, but was born here.  Invariably, I am
always asked by Mexicanos, what part of Mexico? It seems that an immediate
formation of one's family background is formed when you tell them where...which
means I am considered a nortena - and my progressive ideas almost seem to be
forgiven (lol)
 
...but the truth is that I raised by a family from La Barca,
Jalisco...whose family migrated to Guadalajara - which was considered provincial
(by elders), and a certain decorum was expected as a female.
 
....ah, pero la sangre llama, and I was never able to conform to the
provincial expectations, despite the many hours dedicated to crocheting, sewing,
and strict upbringing of culture/manners.  I was always "out there", almost
tom-boyish, with radical ideas, ready to defend them verbally.....not acceptable
for a provincial upbringing....where the art of social graces was an expectation
(meaning that I had to be quiet, demure, and find my way through acceptable

Pronunciation of Guadalajara

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In a message dated 1/22/2006 12:34:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
sgapodaca@... writes:


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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>PS. By
the way, talking about long words, last september, on my
honeymoon in
Michoacan, my wife and I visited a place called San
Juan
Parangaricutirimicuaro. (No kidding).



That town is not too far from my husband's side of the family - I told him
that I want to hear the Tarascos speak - I bet they sound oriental - as most of
the town names seem to end with an "o" - actually, I think the last "uaro"
stands for "place",,, Beautiful part of Mexico, isn't
it?

NARA Immigration Records

The following NARA site has extensive information on their Immigration 
Records for Mexican Border Crossings. There is a lot of information - 
and I recommend that you read it carefully, despite its length - it is 
comprehensive. I don't think there is an index. Please NOTE - the 
filming of these records has not been completed, and may take about 
another 8-12 months to complete.

The NARA site is:
     http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/immigration/border-mexico.html

ncc in VA





Help with Questions/Immigration Records

Marge, I'm not sure regarding our NARA records, it's
been almost two years since I've been there viewing
the Eagle Pass microfilm, and at that time they didn't
have El Paso films.  I was told to contact NARA in TX.
 I may put in a call tomorrow and find out and I'll
keep you posted, they may have these films now.  I
hate to tell you this but Eagle Pass had about 26 or
more rolls of film, I'm sure I went through 4 rolls
just to check for Muro's in a three (1908-1911) time
frame.  When I call, I'll find out who has El Paso
films and how they are indexed.  

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> Carol, I thought our NARA here had El Paso records. 
> The 1930 Census 
> states that my grandmother came to El Paso in 1913
> and my grandfather 
> in 1918, so would I have to order 2 sets of records
> to come to KC's 
> NARA or what?  Thanks.  Marge:)
> On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Carol Turner wrote:
> 
> > Joseph, this is a good topic.
> >
> >  Since I have my grandfather's

New Member/A personal perspective

Thanks for the suggestion. I am sitting
here trying to get started and I guess the best thing would be just to start
ordering the films. My husband says I am crazy and there is now way I will find
anything- I know I can if I can just have a little patience.
- Jessica

 

-----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@...m
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Edward Serros

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006
10:58 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Re: New
Member/A personal perspective

 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo
Ramos" wrote:


>

> Jessica:

>

> I think you are going to have somewhat of a
difficult time since I


> think that the Valparaiso films are not
indexed in familysearch.  I


> know that Ed Serros is researching family in
that parrish so he can


> probably give you some better tips about what
to do, but it may


> entail simply ordering the films and going
through them.  Many of the


> books from the 19th century have indexes

Help with Questions/Immigration Records

Carol, I thought our NARA here had El Paso records. The 1930 Census states that my grandmother came to El Paso in 1913 and my grandfather in 1918, so would I have to order 2 sets of records to come to KC's NARA or what? Thanks. Marge:)

On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Carol Turner wrote:


Joseph, this is a good topic.



Since I have my grandfather's application "Registry of

an Alien", and he has provided me with good dates, at

least I hope these are good dates.



This is what he wrote down on his application:



He arrived in the states Dec. 15, 1908

Destination was To Campo Echizos, TX.

He states he was coming to remain permanently

He was accompanied by -  My brother Juan Muro and two

friends

He arrived at the port of  - El Paso de Lajitas, TX

I do have his Alien Card number.  His wife my

grandmother Maximina Lopez arrived here May 20, 1907 -

Port of Entry - El Paso.



Here in Kansas City at our NARA they do not have El

Paso records, however they do have Eagle Pass, TX.

The

Question about Immigration records--Laredo, TX

I know that NARA has the following record available,
but I was unable to determine if I can order it
through my local family history center. It doesn't
appear that I can.

"A3379. Nonstatistical Manifests Statistical Index
Cards of Aliens Arriving at Laredo, Texas, May
1903-November 1929. 112 rolls. 16mm.---ROLL 77" 

at:
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/microfilm/2005.html#a3379

I'd prefer not to pay $65 to NARA for a roll that I'm
not even sure has information on my
great-grandparents: Nicanor Pineda and Emilia
Gonzalez. They came from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas to
Laredo in the 1920s. Can anyone help?

Chris Pineda

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