Josie & Linda,

We share the same haplogroup A.  Although we're not an exact match we
do match on some numbers.  Since we're dealing here with mitochondrial
DNA, in contrast to Y chromosome DNA, it means that our female common
ancestor lived thousands of years ago, in prehistorical times.

Mitochondrial DNA is best suited to determine what is called "Deep
Ancestry" of our maternal lineage.  We definitely share the same
Native American roots in the distant past.

Warm Regards,

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie T. Trevino"  wrote:
>
> Message: 8       Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:55:34 -000        From:
"Erlinda
> Castanon-Long" 
> 
> Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor
> 
> Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group A 16111T
16223T
> 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A
> 
> Josie, what were your numbers if you don't mind sharing? 
> 
> Linda in Everett
> 
> =================================================================
> 
>

I've found two relatives through entierros--one said what he died of and gave his age as over 100 but he really was 86 or something similar...I know because I found his birth record before I found his entierro. In a second entierro record that was included in some nacimientos, I found my great-grandfather's first wife--Ma. Eleuteria Tovar de Gonzalez, who died in childbirth, giving birth to her third child. But can I find this record again? Noooooooo. This is frustrating.:( Marge:)

On Oct 20, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

Arturo,

 

I have looked at some films for entierros or defunciones for Nochistlan Zac, therefore I can only speak of these findings. They can be hit or miss, some are very explicit as to the cause of death but very sparse in terms of familial connections. For example if it was a spouse who died at child birth it will give the husband's name but won't say who her parents are. Most of what I found in entierros or defunciones did not give a lot of

I'm going to be changing a rule. I will no longer be accepting
genealogies that include living relatives. This is for privacy sake. In
the early going I was lax on this point so there might be a few in the
files that include living relatives. I would strongly suggest that those
files be modified to remove those individuals.

also I've not accepted or will accept .gedcoms. . .I prefer a genealogy
report or if you must a chart.

thanks,

joseph

Can someone who has looked at films of parrish books listing
burials
tell me how extensive the information listed in these books
is?  Does
it list parents, survivors of the deceased?  I have two
particular
issues... one where I cannot connect an ancestor (Marcos LEMUS m.
Maria
Barbara

"Pardos Enterados: Unearthing Black Papantla in the Eighteenth Century."

Journal of Colonialism and Colonial History 5:2 | © 2004 Jason
Frederick

"Pardos Enterados: Unearthing Black Papantla in the Eighteenth
Century."

     Jason Frederick
     Penn State University, University Park

  1.

2. In 1787 Antonio Alcedo published his Diccionario
Geographico-Histórico de las Indias Occidentales o America. This work
details a variety of information on population centers throughout North
and South America. For the town of Papantla, Veracruz, Alcedo recorded
15 families of Spaniards, 535 families of "indios Mexicanos," and 200
pardos, divided into two companies of militia.1 Two centuries later
Peter Gerhard offered population figures for the same period in what has
become the standard historical geography for colonial New Spain.
Gerhard's numbers for Papantla were considerably higher than Alcedo's:
2,269 native tributaries and 215 Spanish families in 1795