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Collecting Oral History: Re: Travel to Mexico

Emilie:  I am basically self-taught when it comes to computers and things technical or electronic.  Just recently I bought a scanner which my brother installed.  He gave me a few quick lessons.  Don't you just hate it when they say, "It's easy."  It's not.  But I have had fun scanning photos and documents and e-mailing them to my cousins.  We have met with a purpose to meet monthly and  work really  hard on the oral history.  It's amazing how many times someone says "Oh, I didn't know that.  Are you sure?"  So, we have started an ongoing history under different topics.  For example: did anyone every see Grandma Garcia smile?  No one.  Then while scanning photos I found several where she is smiling.  So now the quest is to find out when she stopped smiling and why.  I think I know.  Then I bought an Adobe photo program. I glared at my brother before he could say "It's easy." It's not,
but I am having fun trying to decipher the handbook. But I know what you mean and I so admire those

Collecting Oral History: Re: Travel to Mexico

Mary, I don't know how much you know about all the new-fangled technical
gadgets besides audio recorders and digital cameras that are available to
serve our genealogy purposes, but if you could, maybe you could get some and
take them with you.  You might be able to access some computers in certain
towns at internet cafes too if you can?t take a laptop along.  The people
at the genealogy society here and at the local FHC have some amazing
things.  One lady showed me a gadget she uses to scan books.  Honest,
it was no bigger than a ruler and she would start at the top of the page and
move it down, then she showed me on the computer what it had scanned. 
Amazing.  Then others have these little tiny things no bigger than a
lipstick case that attaches to the back of the computer and they upload or
download all sorts of stuff.  There are also these microfilm viewers that
attach to your laptop so you can download images directly, no need for a copier,
etc.  They also have

Collecting Oral History: Re: Travel to Mexico

Thank you, Joseph.  With all the wonderful suggestions I am receiving, it will be possible to put together "Oral History Interview 101"  This is really important because one could blow a meeting and even cause annoyance or alienation.  It already happened with our last surviving uncle.  I asked an innocent  question and hit a nerve.  A good warnwing for newcomes; we don't need to learn some things genealogical by experience. Mary

Joseph Puentes wrote:

Mary just a quick word about collecting Oral history. You probably have been doing it for a long time so please excuse me saying stuff that you might already have been practicing (just pretent that I'm talking to someone else). I've found that if you go into an "interview" loaded with questions you won't get as far a if you just let "them tell their story (their stories)." Many times asking "when did so and so pass?" will make for a difficult question as compared to "Were you married when so and so died? . . .and "were any of

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I am going to make a folder in Ranchos2 called "Members Hobbies and
Careers." This will be a place where members can upload any information
they would like other members to know about in relation to their hobbies
and careers. Information can be placed there about anything someone has
forsale or offers to other members. I will control this if it gets out
of hand but for the time being will allow members to freely upload their
information and let the "new files uploaded" messages go out to the
group one by one. Later like I said if it gets to be much I'll package
the messages and send them out once a month. Some of these hobbies are
definitely genealogy related. I'll be involved in this as well but am
not ready to get involved yet.


joseph



Collecting Oral History: Re: Travel to Mexico

Mary just a quick word about collecting Oral history. You probably have
been doing it for a long time so please excuse me saying stuff that you
might already have been practicing (just pretent that I'm talking to
someone else). I've found that if you go into an "interview" loaded
with questions you won't get as far a if you just let "them tell their
story (their stories)." Many times asking "when did so and so pass?"
will make for a difficult question as compared to "Were you married
when so and so died? . . .and "were any of your children born yet when
so and so had passed?" Later you can calculate from their birth the
date. Something about asking them to remember exact dates that throws a
wrench in the whole works. I have had good success with questions like:



"Tell me about what things were like when you were in grade school?"



"Tell me what it was like during the depression?"



"Tell me what things were like when you were 20 years old?"



"Oh, tell me more about that story?"



"Oh

Travel to Mexico

thanks!!  Mary

Josiett3@... wrote:





   Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Mary Allen


Guanajuato.  I found
photos and a lot more information.

Hi Mary!   May I suggest you take a Spanish/English dictionary when you
travel to Mexico.  My friend Mickey Garcia and I go to Mexico quite a
bit and, believe me, there have been times that I wished I had carried
mine with me.  It can be a small, light-weight one but anything is a
big help when you are talking to someone and cannot get your point

across!  :-)  Good luck on your travels and I hope you find a wealth of
information! 
Josie in San Antonio, TX
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Travel to Mexico

Thank you, Victor.  Now I know where San Felipe is located and it is not a surprise visit. And I will purchase a cellular phone.  There are two more places I need to visit, but perhaps not on this trip: San Luis Potosi, SLP and Salinas, SLP.  Something to look forward to.
 
It's a strange feeling: I have been working so intensely on this project for the last few weeks.  Now that I have a few photographs,  their faces  are so etched on my mind that I dream about them.  I feel as if I know them and I am just going to go "meet" them on their own turf.  I have been sharing each step with my family and we all feel as if something great is about to happen, as if one of them walked in the front door, we wouldn't be surprised.  It's just  that we have been looking for them for so very long and now, suddenly, they start to appear with their stories, some of them quite sad. They are more than names and dates and pictures; they are real.  As if they are coming home to us.
 
Mary

"v.h.villarreal"

Travel to Mexico

Mary,

I'd say that traveling by bus is OK, as bus drivers know the roads
very well.  Of course this isn't a surprise visit, right?  It might be
worth buying one of those cheap cellular phones to keep in touch with
your contacts. 

San Felipe is located in the northern part of Guanajuato.  To get an
overview of Guanajuato click on the following link.
http://www.guanajuato.gob.mx/turismo/frames/nuestroedo_2.html

For a detailed map of Guanajuato and preferably if you have a
braodband connection there's an excellent map in the next link:
http://mapserver.inegi.gob.mx/geografia/espanol/estados/gto/gto.pdf?c=459&e=11&CFID=966958&CFTOKEN=59264336

Hope this helps.  Enjoy!

Victor Villarreal

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen  wrote:
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> I thought about that.  I hope that someone from those I meet in
Mexico City will offer to go with me to Guanajuato.  I have travelled
alone extensively, but now I think prudence is the best

Travel to Mexico

Thank you to both Josie and Victor:
I thought about that.  I hope that someone from those I meet in Mexico City will offer to go with me to Guanajuato.  I have travelled alone extensively, but now I think prudence is the best thing. I won't drive and if I can't find a companion, would going by bus be acceptable?  I understand it is a five hour drive from DF to the town of San Felipe, Guanajuato.  So far I can't even find it on the map.  Any advice is gratefully accepted.   Mary

"v.h.villarreal" wrote:

Hello Josie,

Good thinking and suggestion for Mary.  Also, it goes without saying
to always be extra cautious when it comes to safety.  If your going to
travel by land over there get yourself the company of a trusted friend
or relative that knows his way around;  preferably don't drive by
night;  keep a low profile in general.

Victor Villarreal

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Sena de Abajo and Sena de Abajo, Zacatecas

Can someone tell me where these two ranchos are located?

Can someone tell me anything about them?

I understand that families of Apache descendancy settled here  from
the US.  Can anyone shed some light on this?

Elvira