TO: h1ita@...

        From What I know, Martin Del Campo goes short as Martin, that 
name as others like Barba where the settlers in Tepatitlan a lot, but 
also expanded to San Juan De Los Lagos, you can find them also in 
Jalostotitlan. Look also in Jesus Maria, Arandas, Zapotlanejo ...

               Leticia Leon Morales
          

I have uploaded a map given to me by a member of the Ranchos group (thanks Gloria). I believe the original is at UC Berkeley. It won't be available for long so please visit    http://nuestrosranchos.libsyn.com/  and if you are intereste upload ASAP.

also have a listen at: http://NuestrosRanchos.net

joseph
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/

Subject: Re: Older maps of Jalisco ???

From: h1ita@...

Date: 9 Sep 2005 21:40:11 -0600

To: MEX-JALISCO-L@...

I would love to have a

Joseph,

Best of luck!  Thanks for letting us know.  

Victor 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> I have just signed up to make an attempt at Real Estate with an 
> organization called Mark Thomas Realty with Weichert Realty. All that 
> being said I will have my hands full doing the bare minimum of 
> subscribing and unsubscribing people along with uploading and either 
> modifying or doing whatever else might come up.
> 
> All that being said if you notice that I am becoming more and more 
> silent. . .well that is why. If you miss my voice have a listen to
it at 
> http://NuestrosRanchos.net
> 
> joseph

I have just signed up to make an attempt at Real Estate with an
organization called Mark Thomas Realty with Weichert Realty. All that
being said I will have my hands full doing the bare minimum of
subscribing and unsubscribing people along with uploading and either
modifying or doing whatever else might come up.

All that being said if you notice that I am becoming more and more
silent. . .well that is why. If you miss my voice have a listen to it at
http://NuestrosRanchos.net

joseph

Sounds good and also promising.

Albert Duarte Prieto.
Santa Maria, California

--- readysetgo95814  wrote:

> This is great.  Thanks for sharing Victor.
> 
> Maria
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"
>  
> wrote:
> > For your information,
> > 
> > > Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> > > 
> > > By Carrie A. Moore
> > > Deseret Morning News 
> > >       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> > > vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> > > inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> > > Canyon?
> > >       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> > > Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> > > Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> > > known before about the information contained on
> 2
> > > million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> > > Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> > > indexes to that information and will eventually
> make
> > > it available for free

Good morning
I'm hoping you can help me understand the history of the traditions 
of baptisms in Jalisco during the 1700's.
During that period they are still listing nationalities for people 
and I've noticed that many Indios and Mulato's are baptized by 
Espanoles who frequently have Don and Dona in front of their names.. 
A majority of the Indios and Mulato's do not live in the major towns 
but seem to be in Barrios or Haciendas, Estancias or Ranchos.  Many 
of the Espanoles have double surnames. I'm under the impression that 
many Indios and Mulato's took the surname of the Espanol that owned 
the land the workers lived on. I don't see how the Espanoles would 
have known all these workers who's babies they baptized.. did they 
do mass baptisms or was it the 'responsibility' of the patron or 
owners to be padrinos and madrinas?  Or was it considered an honor 
for the babies to have Espanol padrinos?  My area's of research for 
these records are Atoyac, Zapotlan El Grande, Zapotiltic

This is great.  Thanks for sharing Victor.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"  
wrote:
> For your information,
> 
> > Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> > 
> > By Carrie A. Moore
> > Deseret Morning News 
> >       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> > vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> > inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> > Canyon?
> >       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> > Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> > Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> > known before about the information contained on 2
> > million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> > Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> > indexes to that information and will eventually make
> > it available for free through an automated database
> > on the Internet.
> >       The church excavated the vaults containing
> > those records on property it purchased in the 1960s,
> > providing a safe

For your information,

> Microfilm data in LDS canyon vaults to go online
> 
> By Carrie A. Moore
> Deseret Morning News 
>       Ever wonder what's inside those secured
> vaults, owned by the LDS Church, positioned high
> inside the granite walls of Little Cottonwood
> Canyon?
>       The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
> Saints is working toward allowing anyone with
> Internet access to learn more than they've ever
> known before about the information contained on 2
> million-plus rolls of microfilm housed there.
> Currently, the church is compiling searchable
> indexes to that information and will eventually make
> it available for free through an automated database
> on the Internet.
>       The church excavated the vaults containing
> those records on property it purchased in the 1960s,
> providing a safe repository during the height of the
> Cold War for birth, marriage, death and census
> information it considers essential for the salvation
> of mankind after death. Now

 Amen....

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  
wrote:
> I know this forum is only for geneaology but I couldn't help but 
believe that we are all in this together and that our people need 
all the help including our prayers.
>  
>  
>  
> Prayer chain for our New Orleans and the gulf
> states...
> Prayer Request: When you receive this, please stop for
> a moment and say a prayer for New Orleans.
> 
> 
> "Lord, hold the people of New Orleans and the gulf
> states in your loving hands. Protect them in their
> time of need and bring an end to their suffering.
> Bless them and their families. I ask this in the name
> of Jesus, our Lord and Savior. Amen."
> 
> 
> There is nothing attached.... ... Just send this.
> Do not let it stop with you, please. 
> 
> 
> Alicia A Carrillo