Emilie Garcia wrote:

OK, then, Joseph,

 

How do you write and pronounce all those subsequent generations:   primera, secunda, tercera,  (I don't know how to say the rest).  Also, why is pentabuelo listed as antepasado de 6th generation when "pent" means "five" to me.  It looks like the pentabuelo should go with "5th". 

well if you look at it in the Spanish the father is the first generation, the grandfather is the 1st grandfather but the 2nd generation, the g-Grandfather is the 2nd grandfather (Bis) but the 3rd generation, the GG grandfather is the 3rd grandfather (Tatara) but the 4th generation, etc.

I would like more feedback from the group is

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, makas@n... wrote:
> 
> Who is studying this surname in the group?
> 
> joseph

    JOSEPH.

   ONE OF THE MEMBERS: JUAN PABLO ALVAREZ, HIS ADDRESS IS

    jpag0573@... AND HI IS MEMBER OF RANCHOS.

                          so long

                        LETICIA LEON MORALES 

I find this really interesting since my direct ancestor Francisco 
Mendez was also from Zamora Michoacan, He says in the marriage 
record (1795 in Tamazula) that he's been gone from Zamora for 6 
years, he married a Sanches de la Mejorada that say they are from 
Tuxpan.  His second wife, my ancestor was a De la Cueva!
thank you for taking the time to post. Looks like I'm going to have 
to order films from Zamora now... the searching never ends..
Linda in Wa.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> Even though I am not an Alvarez del Castillo, it is a surname that 
> marries into my family and is present in Arandas and Ayo el 
Chico.  I 
> and a few others have traced the surname to Zamora, Michoacan.  
That 
> was their original "nest." The Gutierrez de Robles, Morfin, and 
Cueva 
> surnames were also from there.  My cousin Tony Campos was also 
from 
> there.  He has been researching the Zamora, Jacona, Tlazazalca, 
and 
> Tangancicuaro, Michoacan, area for the past

Even though I am not an Alvarez del Castillo, it is a surname that
marries into my family and is present in Arandas and Ayo el Chico. I
and a few others have traced the surname to Zamora, Michoacan. That
was their original "nest." The Gutierrez de Robles, Morfin, and Cueva
surnames were also from there. My cousin Tony Campos was also from
there. He has been researching the Zamora, Jacona, Tlazazalca, and
Tangancicuaro, Michoacan, area for the past 35 years.

Regards,
Steven Hernandez

-----Original Message-----
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long 
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:33:07 -0000
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Alvarez del Castillo

 Hello Joseph, I'm not studying it but have found 4 female Alvarez del
Castillo in Tamazula Jalisco.  They are from app. the 1730's to 1760
time period and 2 marry into the Gutierres de Robles, 1 into the
Morfin and 1 into the  de la Cueva families.  I have decendants but
not thier parents.
Linda in Wa.

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I AM!!!
Carol Lester

-----Original Message-----
From: makas@...
Sent: Sep 5, 2005 7:13 PM
To: LosRanchos 
Subject: [ranchos] Alvarez del Castillo


Who is studying this surname in the group?

joseph





 
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Hello Joseph, I'm not studying it but have found 4 female Alvarez del 
Castillo in Tamazula Jalisco.  They are from app. the 1730's to 1760 
time period and 2 marry into the Gutierres de Robles, 1 into the 
Morfin and 1 into the  de la Cueva families.  I have decendants but 
not thier parents.
Linda in Wa.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, makas@n... wrote:
> 
> Who is studying this surname in the group?
> 
> joseph

Thank you for your reply, my real curiosity was about the Sanches de 
la Mejorada line that was the first wife of my Ancestor Jose 
Francisco Mendez who married her in 1795 in Zapotlan El Grand/Ciudad 
Gusman.  In that town all the people I asked about including Espanol 
Gonzales and Leal's are living and marrying into the same lines as 
my direct ancestor did. They say they are from Leon and also many 
people coming directly from Spain in this time period.. I didn't 
mean to do their genealogy but you know how it is.. we start with 
one family and end up doing the city or rancho! These same people 
also live in Tuxpan, Atoyac, and Tamazula de Gordiano, they seem to 
come around Lake Chapala.  I got to go there a couple of years ago 
and the area is still in sugar cane and making tequila is a 
maintstay. If you'd like any of the records let me know, always glad 
to share my findings..
Linda in Wa.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> Sorry that this reply is so so

Who is studying this surname in the group?

joseph

Sorry that this reply is so so late, but I hardly check my aol mail box
anymore. I was rather interested to see that you discovered records
from Zapotlan el Grande that connected your Loza y Linares lineage to
the Villa de Leon. Well that is without a doubt Leon, Guanajuato. The
Loza y Linares family and Lopez de Lara are both definitely from there.
DEFINITELY.

My close friend, cousin, genealogist, and writer, don Mariano Gonzalez
Leal, has researched the Loza y Linares lineages since they migrated to
Mexico from Spain. He himself is a Loza y Linares and currently lives
in Leon, Guanajuato. He has access to all kinds of records from Leon's
historical archives, both public and private. Some of the Loza y
Linares and Lopez de Lara's descendants eventually moved to
Jalostotitlan, Lagos de Moreno, Ayo el Chico, Arandas, San Miguel el
Alto, and San Juan de los Lagos.

It seems that they also migrated to Zapotlan el Grande. Where is that
anyway?

Regards,
Steven