I'm soooooo excited. I just got off the phone with my 2nd cousin Roy Raygoza from Antioch, CA. Seems that his grandfather, Nicolas was brother to my Grandmother, Antonia Lopez. The big big big news is that his parents are from Huejucar, Jalisco the same place he says that my grandmother is from. That being said I'm off to the races again inserarch of this line of elusive relatives on my maternal Grandmother's side. . .her name is Antonia Lopez.

I just ordered two films from Huejucar. . .are there any Lopez in the group from Huejucar by chance?

joseph

ps: previous to this discovery I had doubts as to the true name of my maternal Grandmother as she went by several aliases. But I've heard it from 3 separate independant sources and thats good enough for me. If I can find a Lopez family in Huejucar that had two children named Nicolas and Antoniia I think I'll be on
the right trail. I can't

 DEAR MAKAS:

  IS THERE A SYSTEM OTHER THEN USING THE "GREAT" WORD TO NUMBER 

 SITUATION IN THE LINE? WOULD IT BE CORRECT, INSTEAD, TO NUMBER AS

  FALLOWS: SON, FATHER-MOTHER, GRANDPARENTS, GREAT-GRANDPARENTS, AND

 THEN MENTION THEM AS THIRD-GRANDPARENTS, FOURTH-GRANDPARENTS AND

 SO FORTH? I THINK THAT WAY IT'S EASIER TO VIEW THEIR PLACES IN THE

 GENS LINE.

                                  LETICIA LEON MORALES
                                  AKA LILI PINZON

There is an edition published in Mexico as well with a different 
ISBN.  I have perused through the book at the Library of Congress.  
It is very well indexed, and has a good deal of informtion though it 
is a bit cryptographic as all of the information is provided in 
abbreviations so as to save page space... There is then a translation 
table at the front to make sense of all the codes.

LC Control Number: 86197796  
Type of Material: Text (Book, Microform, Electronic, etc.) 
Personal Name: Boyd-Bowman, Peter. 
Main Title: Indice geobiográfico de más de 56 mil pobladores de la 
América Hispánica / Peter Boyd-Bowman. 
Edition Information: 1a ed. completa. 
Published/Created: México : Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas, 
UNAM : Fondo de Cultura Económica, 1985- 
Description: v. 1 > : ill. ; 24 cm. 
ISBN: 9681613368 (set) 
Notes: Includes indexes.
Bibliography: v. 1, p. xliii-lviii. 
Subjects: Spaniards--Latin America--Registers.
Immigrants--Spain--Registers.
Immigrants--Latin

Ray,

I don't have a copy of my own but I was able to find the ISBN online.

ÍNDICE GEOBIOGRÁFICO DE MÁS DE 56 MIL POBLADORES DE LA AMÉRICA
HISPÁNICA, I : 1493-1519 
Peter Boyd-Bowman 
Págs./dimensiones: 276 pp. ; 24 x 14 cm 
Presentación: Empastado 
ISBN: 9681613376  
Ediciones: Primera: 1985; última: 1985; número: 1 
Historia editorial: 1ª ed. del tomo I (Instituto Caro y Cuervo,
Bogotá, Colombia), 1964 1ª ed. completa, 1985 


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Raymond Jauregui"  wrote:
> Victor,
> Can you provide me with a little more data on the book "Indice 
Geographico de Mas de 56 Mil Pobladores de la America Hispanica" ,
such as the ISBN number, Publisher or Catalog/Label numbers?
> 
> Ray Jauregui
> Sammamish, WA

Oh, I remember that now. Thanks for the answer. Marge:)

On Aug 31, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

Marge:



My Ramos are neither from Chihuahua nor really Ramos.  The name goes

back only to the late 1700s in Totatiche, Jalisco, where a priest who

apparently refused to recognize the name of the family who had taken in

an "expuesto" (abandoned child) by the name of Ramon, assigned the last

name of Ramos instead to his children.



It seems that children born after the priest changed in the parish got

the name Aranzazu.



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza

wrote:

> Are your Ramos' from Chihuahua?

> Marge:)













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Marge:

My Ramos are neither from Chihuahua nor really Ramos.  The name goes 
back only to the late 1700s in Totatiche, Jalisco, where a priest who 
apparently refused to recognize the name of the family who had taken in 
an "expuesto" (abandoned child) by the name of Ramon, assigned the last 
name of Ramos instead to his children.

It seems that children born after the priest changed in the parish got 
the name Aranzazu.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Margarita Vallazza  
wrote:
> Are your Ramos' from Chihuahua?
> Marge:)