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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> I have been eating tamales dulces with strawberries all my life (also raisins are sometimes added, sometimes canella). I know that the western part of Michoacan has many strawberry fields (my husband's family has worked in them). Esperanza (Chicago area)
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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> Hi, My husband's surnames include Rocha, Ortiz, Madrigal, Duarte. I have started doing some research, but have not taken the serious time yet. There are many Madrigales in this area - most claiming not related (but I think people just forget). The Ortiz name, as you might be aware is not as common in Mexico, at least not in these parts, however the Rocha name is connected to families from Los Altos area. The Duarte's were supposedly one of the first to settle his small town - however when I went to the local church to get historical data, it does not mention one single Duarte! Thanks for your feedback - I was thinking that my posting had not gone through.... Esperanza - Chicago area
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I don't think so. My husband and his mother were from Ecuador, SA and they never use that term.
Marge
On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:29 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
Does anyone know if "Rancho" is a term used in the same context as we use it in Mexico in other Spanish speaking countries?. . .I'm mostly interested in if Central and South Americans call their small communities Ranchos?
thanks,
joseph
Rougemont, NC
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John Gonzalez wrote:
Gracias Alicia:
Rancho is only one of many words in Spanish that have been "borrowed" or adopted by the English language. Here are a few more: Barbeque=Barbacoa, Lariat= La reata, Lasso= Lazo, Buckaroo= Vaquero, Mustang= Mosteño. these are just a few that come to mind...Iam sure there are a lot more.
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA
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Does anyone know if "Rancho" is a term used in the same context as we
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Gracias Alicia:
Rancho is only one of many words in Spanish that
have been "borrowed" or adopted by the English language. Here are a few more: Barbeque=Barbacoa, Lariat= La reata, Lasso= Lazo, Buckaroo= Vaquero, Mustang= Mosteño. these are just a few that come to mind...Iam sure there are a lot more. John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA
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Janet,
I am a little late too on this discussion about "Pachucos". I had heard that they were called "pachucos" because in an area of Mexico called Pachuca, the natives there wore their pants tightly pegged at the bottom to prevent scorpions from climbing up their legs into their clothes (eek!). I also heard that the "zoot suits" developed from the costume worn by Clark Gable in "Gone with the Wind" in 1939. The costume had a long fitted jacket with wide lapels, the pants were slightly narrow at the bottom but full in the hip (for riding?), and men of the Civil War era in the South often wore gold watches attached by long chains which hung from a vest to a pants pocket, and they topped this outfit off with a wide brimmed "planter's hat". A Negro band-leader named Cab Calloway in the 1930's started to have suits made in imitation of the costume worn by Clark Gable, and his music (swing music) and "jitterbug" style and slang expressions became popular with young Mexican
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Steven, how interesting! My mother, who was a native of New Mexico, used to make "tamales de dulce" but she would only use sugar and raisins, no pineapples. She learned to make tamales from her family's Mexican cooks. Also, she had told me that she had seen dessert tamales that she thought were tinted with food coloring since they were pastel pink or green. Her family really didn't know how to cook Mexican food---for special occasions (weddings, etc.) they would hire cooks or caterers from across the border (probably Juarez). Her cooking was more like food found in the American South, bisquits, stews, beans served whole, not mashed, home-made bread (influenced by the Anglos who moved there after the Civil War). When we moved to California, she was exposed to different Mexican food and learned to make meatball soup and a pork stew made with pork shoulder instead of "tripa", since I refused to eat "menudo" because of the "tripa". She would also make enchiladas flat like stacks of
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Steven,
Thank you so much for the explanation of terms (Hidalgo class), titles (Don and Dona) and circumstances (expuesto en la casa de") I've seen described in records or on this site.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA
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Subject: [ranchos] Re: Altos de Jalisco