Yolanda Gomez
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Would Yolanda Gomez please come to the principles office as soon as
possible.
Seems I can't match up your Email Address with you. Please ID as soon as possible. joseph
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Telephone Oral History Script
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no sorry but my Ranchos were up in Northern Jalisco no to far from
The only surname in this list that is in my family (so far) is Torres. |
Telephone Oral History Script
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Excuse me for coming late into your conversation on this
topic. It's only because my Spanish is so bad that I ask these questions about references you made in your suggested wording if attempting to talk to people in Mexico. In your suggested statement, you make reference to a rancho in
Jalisco, would by any chance be referencing Rancho de los Gomez, San Juan Buenaventura, Jalisco, Mexico? My family is from this area which is outside of Tecolotlan. Actually the extended families range from Autlan to Guadalajara. The surnames of the root families are Amador, Flores, Cueva, Torres, and Costillo. Although these names may not ring a bell in the last 150 years, since our families were likely in this area for hundreds of years, we may have been Puente's too. At the turn of the century (20th) the families increased their
migration from Jalisco to California. The most recent wave departed Tecolotlan in 1920 and traveled by boat north to San Pablo and then by automobile to |
Robles Family in Momax
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Angie, You are wonderful!!! Thank you...for taking your personal time to help me.
I did not have this information. Oops...thank you for bringing to my attention the typo on the birth year for Antonio Robles. I was begining to believe this family were cotton balls that blew in with the wind. You have put me in the right direction.
Gracias. Helyn de Castaneda
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Helyn,
Here is some additional information you may or may not have...
Marriage Record:
ANTO. JOSE DE ROBLES
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: MA. LUCIANA SANCHES
Marriage: About 03 NOV 1830 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax,
Zacatecas, Mexico
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage
date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.:
M600845 1776 - 1885 0444019
ROBLES-SANCHES Children:
- JOSE YGNACIO RAMON ROBLES SANCHES
Gender: Male Christening: 04 AUG 1831 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax,
Zacatecas, Mexico
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Genealogy Help
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Yes, Joseph,
I would like it if you gave us ideas in what to say when we contact people in Mexico, since they seem to be put off if one is not entirely fluent in Castellan. Even though I can read and understand other languages after studying them, I can't think on my feet fast enough to speak them. In Italy I spoke mostly Spanish whith a few Italian words thrown in, and they understood me perfectly well and respnded in Italian which I understood. Same thing in France, etc.
Someone in the Jerezano group told me that the way to contact people in Jerez was to ask the radio station to make an announcement that you want to contact people who share the same ancesors. They said that is the way things like that are usuallly done. Perhaps the newspapers there would publish such requests too. My problem is that I am reluctant to call or write the radio stations and newspapers for fear they won't understand me, and I wouldn't know what to say.
Thanks,
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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Robles Family in Momax
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Helyn, Here is some additional information you may or may not have... Marriage Record: ANTO. JOSE DE ROBLES Male Marriages: Spouse: MA. LUCIANA SANCHES Marriage: About 03 NOV 1830 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: M600845 1776 - 1885 0444019 ROBLES-SANCHES Children: - JOSE YGNACIO RAMON ROBLES SANCHES Gender: Male Christening: 04 AUG 1831 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico - ANTO. RAMON ROBLES SANCHES Gender: Male Christening: 12 DEC 1832 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico - MARIA RAMONA DEL REFUGIO ROBLES SANCHEZ Gender: Female Christening: 06 SEP 1835 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico - DOMINGO ROMAN ROBLES SANCHES Gender: Male Christening: 09 AUG 1837 Santo Thomas De Momax, Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico - MA
Slavery in Mexico: John Schmal
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color=#0000ff size=3> thanks for the information. PTSIZE="18">Irene Garrett Watson |
Slavery in Mexico: John Schmal
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A very good written article by John Schmal. I've been to Vera Cruz, Zacatecas, and Guanajuato, and have seen Mexicans with negro features at these locations. Anyway you look at it, approximately 200,000 blacks had to have been absorbed into the population. Alberto. --- makas@... wrote: > > Abstract from SLAVERY IN COLONIAL MEXICO > By John P. Schmal > > The Marriages of Slaves in Mexico > > The majority of slaves brought to the shores of > Mexico were male. With a > lack of female Africans, most of these men > eventually chose Indian or > mestizo women as spouses. The long-established Siete > Partidas laws of > Spain granted slaves the right to select their > spouses. Slave masters > were thus forbidden from intervening in this > decision. > > Professor Martha Menchaca, the author of Recovering > History, > Reconstructing Race: The Indian, Black, and White > Roots of Mexican > Americans, observed that "this legislation was of > monumental importance > because it
Robles
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Gee, thanks for the glowing tribute, Helyn,
That is what genealogy is all about, I think, helping others, the old "give and thou shalt receive". Many people have helped me also down through the years, and it has kept me going. I don't understand those that horde their information like misers. We will get more done if we all share, no?
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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Robles
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I hereby give Emilie, from Port Orchard, WA....Mil Gracias.
For many years, I have not been able to break the "code", and find a link to my maternal grandfather. Just recently, I posted the little information that I had, and received a lead from Emilie. Today, I received the film, and found a sister to my grandfather. (I did not know of her)
Maria Robles from El Refugio - born June 1884 - parents - Antonio Robles born (b abt 1759) & Martina Carlos de Godoi - paternal grandparents Antonio Robles (b abt 1739) & Luciana Sanches (?) Maternal grandparents Domingo Carlos de Godi (b abt 1739) & Maria Refugio M? (when I go to the FHC next week, I will get the correct spelling)
Prior to joining the group, I had communicated with Emilie, who would share her vast knowledge, and was instrumental in finding some ancestors for me.
Emilie, you are wonderful....Gracias, y abrazos....Helyn de Castaneda
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