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Penmanship Help...

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Hi all,

I've been struggling for months to decipher a word on
the attached 1880 Census Form.  Specifically, I cannot
tell what the country of origin is for the mother of
Thomas (Tomas) Hale, my GGG Grandfather.

According to family history, he was born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon to Irish-born parents.  I don't know why or
how they ended up in Mexico, or even his parents names
or where in Ireland they were from. 

I realize this is specific to Nuevo Leon, not a state
relevant to this listserve, but I still hope someone
with a sharper eye than my own can tell me what the
word is.

On the form, I can make out that his father was born
in Ireland but I have no idea what the word is for his
mother's country of origin. This part is not aligned
with his name, but it most certainly applies to him
(see the attached form to see what I mean) 

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris Pineda


		
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A Bit of Oral History

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this is a great story. . .please keep contributing them. If other folks
have oral history to share from Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes please bring it on.



I knew that the Krakatau Volcano affected the whole world. . .in fact
somewhere in there there was the year that had no Summer but I think
that was earlier in the 1800's. . .not sure how that affected Mexico.



joseph



Santos Luna wrote:

My mother, was born in 1906 in
Tlaltenango, she was told by her grandmother, born in 1866, that when
she was a young girl in Tlaltenango, the sky turned dark, it was cold,
and that little white things were falling from the sky.
 
She also said that the people in
Tlalenango de Sanchez Roman were frightened,as they thought the world
was coming to an end.
 
Two events happened in the world
at that time.
 
The Great explosion of the
Krakatau Volcano (Krakatoa") of
August 2, 1883, in Indonesia. The
effects were experienced on a global scale. Fine ashes from the
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A Bit of Oral History

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My mother, was born in 1906 in Tlaltenango, she was told by her grandmother, born in 1866, that when she was a young girl in Tlaltenango, the sky turned dark, it was cold, and that little white things were falling from the sky.
 
She also said that the people in Tlalenango de Sanchez Roman were frightened,as they thought the world was coming to an end.
 
Two events happened in the world at that time.
 
The Great explosion of the Krakatau Volcano (Krakatoa") of
August 2, 1883, in Indonesia. The effects were experienced on a global scale. Fine ashes from the eruption were carried by upper level winds as far away as New York City. Tsunami waves were recorded or observed throughout the Indian Ocean, The Pacific Ocean, the American West Coast & South America.
 
November 27, 1885 - A shower of Andromedid meteors fell. On this same day an iron meteorite fell near Mazapil, Zacatecas (near Concepcion del Oro). I have sent a message to the university asking if the meteorite would have
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Los Fotos de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

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Armando Lopez wrote:

Hola amigo!
Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.
Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto
el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia
Mormona.
Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en
1882.
El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.
Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.
Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.
Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo
Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.
Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no
seria tanta coincidencia.
Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.
Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus
fotos?

Steven,



porque no los pones en la seccion de fotos del grupo? Entonces todos
pueden verlos.



gracias,



joseph

Bueno, adios por ahora.
Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.



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Hola
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Familia LOPEZ de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

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Hola amigo!
Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.
Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia Mormona.
Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en 1882.
El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.
Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.
Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.
Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.
Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no seria tanta coincidencia.
Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.
Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus fotos?
Bueno, adios por ahora.
Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.

Pacorro73@... wrote:

Hola Armando,

 

¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí

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Familia LOPEZ de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

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Hola amigo!
Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.
Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia Mormona.
Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en 1882.
El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.
Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.
Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.
Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.
Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no seria tanta coincidencia.
Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.
Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus fotos?
Bueno, adios por ahora.
Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.

Pacorro73@... wrote:

Hola Armando,

 

¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí

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Familia LOPEZ de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

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Hola Armando,

 

¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí en casa.  Yo me llamo Steven Francisco Hernández López, y tres cuartos de mi genealogía es completamente alteña.  Mi abuelo paterno y mi bisabuelo paterno materno fueron originarios de Arandas.  Ellos dos tienen raíces profundas en Arandas, y anteriormente, en Ayo el Chico.  También por mi lado materno paterno, tengo muchas líneas arandenses.  

 

¿Dices que tienes líneas López provenientes de Arandas y Jesús María, Jalisco?  Entonces cabe la posibilidad que seamos parientes.  El año pasado tuve la oportunidad de ir a Arandas, Ayo el Chico, Jesús María, Tepatitlán, Atotonilco el Alto, San Miguel el Alto, Jalostotitlán, San Juan de los Lagos, Zapotlanejo, La Barca, Ocotlán, Lagos de Moreno, León, Guanajuato (pero no vi las momias), y Guadalajara.  Si te interesa, te pudiera mandar algunas fotos de
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Technical Difficulties/Please ID These!

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Well it seems as if Yahoo's cute tricks might be messing us up a bit.
The following addresses have shown up as members of the group. If any of
them belong to you please let me know ASAP as I will shortly be deleting
them as unknown:


artrmro@...
anaareluna@...
ddelmuro1@...
thesparkmans2001@...
kookieq2001@...
jalisco322000@...

I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes Flores de ??????

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Hi, Alberto,
 
No, they weren't from Jerez.  Joseph attached a photo of the document he wanted help in deciphering, so I was responding to that.  His folks were from Aguascalientes and Cototlan.
 
Emilie
 Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto Duarte
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes Flores de ??????
 

Emile, were these families from Jerez?

Alberto

--- Emilie Garcia wrote:
> Hi, Joseph,
>
> It is a death certificate from February 7 (?)
> (siete) 1822.  He died of la grippe (gripa?).(or
> colic).  He was the  second husband of Mrs. Ramires,
> his widow, or it was his second marriage, I can't
> quite figure that out  It does look like his mother
> was Ynes Flores de Lisar.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes
>
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