Natalie,

I think what you're refering to is the "Cristiada" or "Guerra de los
Cristeros", a violent conflict between the Mexican

Natalie,

I think what you're refering to is the "Cristiada" or "Guerra de los 
Cristeros", a violent conflict between the Mexican government and the 
Catholic church in the 1920's.

You can do a search of those two words and you'll find a lot of 
information on that little know episode of the Mexican history.

The following link provides a summary from the Catholic perspective:
 
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=20652

Victor.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone provide information on something known as "La Cristada"? 
I 
> was viewing some photos historical photos at www.valparaiso.tk 
having 
> to do with "La Cristada en Valparaiso, Zacatecas y Huejuquilla, 
> Jalisco" - pretty gruesome photos (hangings and beheadings), but 
do  
> not know the background of this event, when it took place, etc. Can 
> anyone provide information? I tried google, but didn't find much 
that 
> was helpful (judging by synopsi (sp?)- however

Can anyone provide information on something known as "La Cristada"? I 
was viewing some photos historical photos at www.valparaiso.tk having 
to do with "La Cristada en Valparaiso, Zacatecas y Huejuquilla, 
Jalisco" - pretty gruesome photos (hangings and beheadings), but do  
not know the background of this event, when it took place, etc. Can 
anyone provide information? I tried google, but didn't find much that 
was helpful (judging by synopsi (sp?)- however,I did not open any of 
the listings). Many of you are well informed, so I trust someone can 
help learn something new.  Thanks.

Natalie 

Natalie wrote:

I was at the local FHC yesterday to view film #1164746/Valparaiso
Church Records- Informacion matrimonial, 1904-1907. I was perusing
the film - wanted to see who was from Astillero, besides my
grandfather and grandmother, when I came across a record that just
made me wonder (these are the basics, not finite details because I
didn't write them down): The bride and groom were both surnamed
Ramirez; the groom was 24 years old; the bride was a 40-something
widow; the bride was the sister of the groom's father. Has anyone
else come across a similar record/situation?

what great good luck. keeping it all in the family produces what are
called "Marriage Dispensas" Seems that when couples were related they
needed special permission to marry and this often involved lots of
investigation and genealogy lines being produced. I'm not the expert on
this subject and there are a few messages in the archives about
Dispensas. . .I'm not sure that was the subject name. .

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Hello,

I have been researching a line of the Olague family, from Colotlan,
Jalisco.  That came to Texas, and then to Utah.

thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
> Hello, Sonya,
> 
> None of your names sound familiar to me, but I have a long way to go
in researching my Olagues and Garcias.  I will let you know if I find
anything on your Olagues and Garcias.
> 
>     Regards,
>        Emilie  
>        Port Orchard, WA.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sonya
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:41 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: Olague-Garcia-Tinajero-Suriano of Jerez and
Tepetongo, ZAC.
> 
> 
> Hello, I, too, am new to the group.
> 
> My Great Grandmother was Demetria Olague born in 1888 in Torreon,  
> Coahuila, married 'Jose MIGUEL PACHECO Garcia' on Aug. 1, 1911 in
> Torreon, Coahuila.  My Great Grandfather Miguel Pacheco was born in  
> Valparaiso and is the son of Bruno PACHECO Galicia(b

He has done a great job with the genealogical
information he has presented.  

He is to be congratulated.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Punters  wrote:
> 
> Awhile back Steve Campos posted his website.  .  .I
> might be wrong but I 
> understood that he completely transcribed some of
> the films and put the 
> results on his page. For those of you doing research
> in Jerez:
> 
>  URL:  http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez/index.htm 
> 
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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