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Digest Number 760

Hi,
 
Thank you for the info, I have already saw this infor, but like you noticed, the name of the woman is different, thats why i didn't pay much attention on it.
 
You say that that is not uncommon?, can you explain me a little bit? I've just started to search my genealogy and there are a lot of things that i haven' understand at all!
 
Thank you § have a great day!!
 

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Topics in this digest:

1. [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa
From: arturoramos
2. Re: New to the group
From: Peggy Delgado



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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:17:37 -0800 (PST)
From: arturoramos
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa


Monica:

There are some interesting entries in the familysearch website for potential matches to the family you are looking for. The mother's

[Nuestros Ranchos] To add or not to add "DE" in a surname?

Arturo:
I use Family Tree Maker and PAF .  These are the lines I have with DE for our target areas:
DE AVILA... DE BUGARIN.... DE CAMPOS... DE CASAS...
DE LA GARZA... DE HARO... DE HERRERA... DEL VALLE...
DEL REAL... DEL MURO... DE YNIGUES... DE LUNA... DE RIOS
If you have any questions on any of these lines let me know.
Y MUCHAS GRACIAS POR TU AYUDA.  
YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ

arturoramos2 wrote:


Yolanda:

I guess the
answer to your question depends on the software that you are using.  I use an online database called The Next Generation that allows you to enter the "DE" or "DE LOS" or "DE LA" in a seperate field from the main surname such that when you search or sort by surname these are not taken into account.

When I import the GEDCOM from this software into PAF, I get the same problem that you do... a bunch of people end up under the letter "D" and I forget to look for them there.

I definitely like entering the name as it appears... for example a lot of

[Nuestros Ranchos] To add or not to add "DE" in a surname?

Yolanda:

I guess the answer to your question depends on the software that you are using.  I use an online database called The Next Generation that allows you to enter the "DE" or "DE LOS" or "DE LA" in a seperate field from the main surname such that when you search or sort by surname these are not taken into account.

When I import the GEDCOM from this software into PAF, I get the same problem that you do... a bunch of people end up under the letter "D" and I forget to look for them there.

I definitely like entering the name as it appears... for example a lot of contemporary names were once "DE" names such as Rios was "DE LOS RIOS" or "DEL RIO" and Torres was "DE LA TORRE", etc. so I would not enter such names simply as "TORRE".

What software are you using?  Other than ROBALCALVA, do you have any "DE" names such as those I mention above?
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TO ADD OR NOT TO ADD "DE" IN A SURNAME?

HOW DO RANCHOS MEMBERS HANDLE THIS, IT HAS BECOME A CONFUSING DILEMA 
FOR ME. I PUT IN ROBALCAVA AND FOR HIS DAUGHTER I FIND HER AS DE 
ROBALCAVA....I LATER CAN'T FIND HER UNTIL I REMEMBER TO LOOK 
UNDER "DE".   I NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU EXPERIENCED GENEALOGISTS.
MIXED-UP IN EL PASO      YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ




New to the group

Hi Monica!! Welcome to the group! 
 
Peggy Delgado

Mónica wrote:


Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in
Montpellier, France.

I've started my genealogical research and I have roots in Zacatecas,
this are the names:

Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was daugther of Juan
de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from Fresnillo, Zacatecas
I haven't found more information on dates, but I keep on researching.

Also, for the family of my mom I know that Ontiveros surname comes
from Zacatecas, but i'm not 100% sure, does anyones knows if this is
true?

Thank you,
Monica






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[Nuestros Ranchos] Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa

Monica:

There are some interesting entries in the familysearch website for potential matches to the family you are looking for.  The mother's surname does not match, but that is not as uncommon as you may think.

JUAN DE LA ROSA  
Male
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  NARCISA ACOSTA  Family 
  Marriage:  28 OCT 1872   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico 
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type:  
 M600825  1866 - 1875  0439842   Film    

ESTANISLAO ROZAS CALDERON  
Male
 Christening:  23 NOV 1874   Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico 
 Parents: 
  Father:  JUAN ROZAS  Family 
  Mother:  NARCISA CALDERON 
Source Information:
Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type:  
 C600824  1872 - 1875  0439823   Film

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Message from Mónica mony7979@...

Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in Montpellier, France.

I've started my

New to the group

Welcome to the group Monica!

--- Mónica  wrote:

> 
> Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently
> living in 
> Montpellier, France.
> 
> I've started my genealogical research and I have
> roots in Zacatecas, 
> this are the names:
> 
> Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was
> daugther of Juan 
> de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from
> Fresnillo, Zacatecas
> I haven't found more information on dates, but I
> keep on researching.
> 
> Also, for the family of my mom I know that Ontiveros
> surname comes 
> from Zacatecas, but i'm not 100% sure, does anyones
> knows if this is 
> true?
> 
> Thank you,
> Monica
> 
> 
> 
> 


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New to the group

Hi, Mu name is Monica Medina, i'm mexican currently living in 
Montpellier, France.

I've started my genealogical research and I have roots in Zacatecas, 
this are the names:

Ines de la Rosa Sandoval (my greatgrand mother) was daugther of Juan 
de la Rosa and Narcisa Sandoval. They come from Fresnillo, Zacatecas
I haven't found more information on dates, but I keep on researching.

Also, for the family of my mom I know that Ontiveros surname comes 
from Zacatecas, but i'm not 100% sure, does anyones knows if this is 
true?

Thank you,
Monica




Southern California meeting-- Important Reminder!

The RSVP deadline (the 15th) is looming for the first Southern 
California Ranchos Meeting.  You still have an opportunity to 
respond-- and please do so.  I want the meeting to be a great 
success.  Some had responded months ago stating that they would like 
to attend, but I haven't heard from them since.  Maybe you never 
mentioned that you would like to attend, but now you realize that 
February 25th is doable.  

Whatever your situation, please let me know at 
lareina2@... or rosalindamruiz@... if you plan to 
attend, so I can send you information and we can order food for 
you.  As you know, the more people who come, the merrier, and I 
would love to meet you.  Please don't be shy!

As a reminder:

February 25, 2006
11:30 a.m.
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Thanks,

Rosalinda