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DNA testing advances

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Linda,
 
I saw that show the other evening, too.  My husband watched too, and
he was amazed.  It was especially interesting to me, since I am discovering
just how many mulato lines I have on my father's side from Zacatecas.  It
should be interesting to whites too to find out that they may have as much as
11% African blood as that genetecist found out (and his mother told him to stop
talking about it-he looked nothing but white), and that someone like the
professor that narrated the show had 50% white blood even though anyone looking
at him would say he was black.  When Oprah saw the documents for her black
slave ancestors and she cried, I cried too.  It was interesting too that
blacks had Asian blood too. 
 
My father's Spanish ancestors, the Olagues and Tinajeros (Felix/Suriano)
were all mulatos by the mid and late 1700's. 
 
I really want to send for those DNA kits now,
 
Emilie Garcia
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The public service chanel here in Everett, Chanel 9 has a show on the 
genealogy search for Blacks to find thier genetic makeup. Since I have 
traced 3 Mulato lines in 3 different states, Jalisco, Zacatecas and 
Michoacan  I was very interested in what they had to say.  They shared 
the fact that the Portuguese controlled the slave trade and that in 
the time frame I'm looking at, mid 1600's the odds are the slaves were 
from Angola. They shared the major advancments they are making daily 
in genetic testing now being able to isolate genes to find what 
percentages we are of different ethnic backgrounds.  I find this all 
very exciting and hope if you get the chance that you will get to 
watch this very informative show. Even if you have no black ancestors 
the sharing of genetic information and genealogy research methods is 
great and well worth watching.
Linda in Everett

Another AER Record at Ancestry.com

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Joseph,

Here is another ancestor of mine.  I had trouble finding him because
by the 1700s they were spelling it Marcelino Suriano and his
descendants had turned into mulatos in Salitrillo.   
 
I remember that when I tried to get some records from Seville, they would
only send it to me if I had a fax machine.  I don't have one, but that
would have been neat to get them that way and not wait so long for the
snail-mail.
 
Emilie Garcia
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Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Recordinfo


about
Marchion Soriano

Name: Marchion Soriano
Year: 1526
Place: America
Source Publication Code: 8870
Primary Immigrant: Soriano, Marchion
Annotation: Chronological list of passengers to Spanish America (including
Florida and Louisiana, 1538-1559)
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AER Records at Ancestry.com

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yes you will find the same information on the AER and very very very
much more below is a pinch of what will be found on the AER



joseph



Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,

Below is a copy of what I found today on one of my ancestors in
Ancestry.com.  The original entry in Ancestry.com that I printed out
back in August 2004 said "Extracted from documents in the Archivo
General de Indias in Seville, copies of which are among the holdings of
the Family History Library in Salt Lake City".  Now I notice that this
entry has that sentence truncated after "copies of".  I wonder why they
did that?  Did they not want the public to know that the FHC has those
records, or did the FHC make them eliminate that part?  They only give
some book as a resource. 
 
That time that I tried to navigate the AER online, I got as far
as getting a password and I pulled up any old record, and it was
amazing!  The actual photo of the document from the 1500s appeared on
the screen and it had
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Joseph,

Below is a copy of what I found today on one of my ancestors in
Ancestry.com.  The original entry in Ancestry.com that I printed out back
in August 2004 said "Extracted from documents in the Archivo General de Indias
in Seville, copies of which are among the holdings of the Family History Library
in Salt Lake City".  Now I notice that this entry has that sentence
truncated after "copies of".  I wonder why they did that?  Did they
not want the public to know that the FHC has those records, or did the FHC make
them eliminate that part?  They only give some book as a resource. 
 
That time that I tried to navigate the AER online, I got as far as getting
a password and I pulled up any old record, and it was amazing!  The actual
photo of the document from the 1500s appeared on the screen and it had all kinds
of info, but the destination was also "Nuevo Espana" (like in the one below) not
any particular state in Mexico because there probably weren't any states yet.
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AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

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not sure, i don't think so.



yes joining that list is so user unfriendly. . .you'll just have to
fiddle with the instructions until you get it. sorry but it is hard to
finally get subscribed.



in fact if I had to subscribe today I'd have to read the instructions
myself. . .I don't remember how I did it.



joseph



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Joseph,
 
Are these the same archives that are in Ancestry.com?  I found
one of my ancestors on their Immigration Section for 1550 on that
website (you must be a subscriber).  I tried the instructions for the
AER and couldn't follow them.  Soy muy mensa (technically challenged). 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and look for
this folder:
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Joseph,
 
Are these the same archives that are in Ancestry.com?  I found one of
my ancestors on their Immigration Section for 1550 on that website (you must be
a subscriber).  I tried the instructions for the AER and couldn't follow
them.  Soy muy mensa (technically challenged). 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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Españoles en Red

the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and
look for this folder:

Archivos
Espanoles en Red
Instructions for Accessing
this Archive of Archives in Spain

Linda R Romero wrote:

How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish?  Just walk me  
through the words so I can sign up.  In case you're wondering how I  
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search  
using my family names.  When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate
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the instruction are in the Ranchos2 files area. go there and look for
this folder:





href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ranchos2/files/Archivos%20Espanoles%20en%20Red/">Archivos
Espanoles en Red


Instructions for Accessing this Archive of Archives
in Spain



Linda R Romero wrote:


cite="">
How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish?  Just walk me  
through the words so I can sign up.  In case you're wondering how I  
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search  
using my family names.  When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate  
it later.  Simple, time consuming, and not very accurate.  But it is  
all I can do.

Linda


 
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How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish? Just walk me
through the words so I can sign up. In case you're wondering how I
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search
using my family names. When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate
it later. Simple, time consuming, and not very accurate. But it is
all I can do.


Linda

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

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Sorry about that Deena.  I hate it when people throw acronyms at me 
and now you have caught me doing just that.

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red 

Anyone can sign up for an account and they are in the process of 
digitizing (scanning) all of their collection and for those documents 
that have already been digitized, you can simply pull them up and 
view them online through the AER website:

http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

I think the Sombrerete Padron that Joseph mentions is the following.  
If so it is not yet digitized, but you can probably order a hard copy.

Archivo  Archivo General de Indias  
Código de referencia  ES.41091.AGI/16403.15.1564//INDIFERENTE,1526  
Título  Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias  
Alcance y Contenido  Padrones generales de los habitantes de Indias.  
Nivel de Descripción  Fracción de Serie-Unidad de Instalación  
Fecha(s)  [f] 1777  
Signatura(s)  INDIFERENTE,1526  
Volumen    1  Legajo(s) 
 
Productor(es)   Información de Contexto
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