--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>   > I remember seen a definition of cerro as backbone, or espinazo. 
>   Cerros means a small mountain.  It goes: Loma, cerro, montaña y
>   sierra, degrees according to size. > 

John, 

Using the Mormon data and the Archivos en Red, I have tracked back at least on person 
with del Cerro surname to Lanestosa, Spain which is in the Basque Country. If you use 
Google Earth and type in Lanestosa, Spain you will get a good idea how the last name 
might have arisen since the area is very mountainous, as is Northern Spain in general.

In my investigation of the Cerro/Cerros surname it appears that there may be at least two 
Cerro/Cerros groups, one in Zacatecas and one in Jalisco. The Zacatecas group is centered 
around Pánuco and goes back centuries. Many of the Cerro males clearly marry women 
with Basque surnames as one reviews the IGI data. Don Juan de Oñate, a Basque, was from 
Pánuco. He "discovered" El Paso on his

Marge,

I have a copy of a map of Aguas. from 1943 showing Santiago located
almost directly south of Rincon de Romos and Pabellon, almost
directly east of San Jose de Gracia, and northwest of San Francisco
de los Romos.
(Carta General del Estado de Aguas., 5 May 1943, Mapas de México,
Aguas., Colección Geográfica Patria)

Also, in Beatriz Rojas' book, "Las Instituciones de Gobierno
y la Elite Local", there are actually two haciendas listed by
that name. She lists one in a chart called "Las grandes haciendas
y sus dueños a fines del siglo XVII", showing the proprietor
as M. López de Carrasquilla in 1689. She also lists an hacienda
Santiago in another chart on the same page (entitled "Las pequeñas
y medianas haciendas a fines del siglo XVII"), showing the proprietors
in 1670 as heirs to Gerónimo de Orozco (a BIG name in the area
at the time, founding family of Aguas.).  

She also includes an old map showing a Santiago as an "Azienda",
south of Pabellon & east of San Jose de Gracia

.
Deceo comprar este libre

.......by sheer coincidence I just received this message today:
Acá en Torreón, vive el señor Jose León Robles de la Torre que hizo 
algunas importantes investigaciones respecto a su familia en Tepetongo 
Zacatecas, Pienso que allí puede encontrar mucha información de la que 
usted necesita. 
  Deceo comprar  el libro de que Filigranas, Fundaciones y Genalogias, 
 que trae bastante genealogia de familias de por allá de Zacatecas, 
Tal vez el pueda darle alguna información a lo que usted busca. 
 
Si alquin is interesante por favor de e-mail me escriban a  
jsmunoz2781@... con prescio y donde llevendarlo.

Jose Munoz

I'm going to suspend the vote on members for the RSF because there are
only two people on the list of nominated and willing individuals.

We may need to forgo this project through lack of interest in how to
effectively distribute the funds once collected unless we can think of a
different system.

I'm open to suggestions.

joseph

Arturo,
   I would suggest if anyone hires him to do research
that he be paid by the job upon delivery. We know one
person whom hired him and prepaid for research and
never got any results over a year. 
    Then on the other hand we did get documentation
and paid him upon delivery. Anna was satisfied with
her results. I was not. 

Jose Munoz

--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> Leonardo de la Torre does NOT speak English.  I
> think that if I worked 
> out a deal with him, I would be willing to
> communicate project goals, 
> etc., to him for members who would sign up.  My
> Spanish is not perfect, 
> but I can hold my own.
> 
> When we were discussing my reimbursing his travel
> expenses for him to 
> come to Colotlan, he was adamant about getting the
> money wired to 
> him... he specifically did not want checks or money
> orders.
> 
> Since Paypal works more or less like a wire service
> once it is linked 
> to a bank account and they do allow linking to
> Mexican bank

I just want to mention that one of the people who attended our 
Sacramento gathering on Saturday has used Mr. de la Torre's 
services.  She said his rates were reasonable and he did provide hard 
copies of records, but that she already had much of the information 
he provided to her.  You might want to be very specific about what 
records you don't need him to research.  It did sound like he's a 
reputable researcher.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
wrote:
>
> I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan along 
> with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.
> 
> Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
> information that he has already compiled from him and then it would 
> be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
> think that is going to be a delicate negotiation and it really 
> depends on what it is that he has.
> 
> He has mentioned that the Jerez parrish archves have