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Fw: [ranchos] Re: Fancy Gadgets for Genealogists

Sorry.  Yahoo informed me that my messages were bouncing to and from
the group, so I had to resend this.  Is anyone else having the same
trouble?
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA  ---
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Fancy Gadgets for
Genealogists

Yes, Victor and Arturo,
 
These things are way beyond my means too (unless I win the Lotto---fat
chance), but some people in this area are able to get the most amazing
things.  They not only have all these gadgets,  but they are able to
just pick up and go wherever their research in our FHC or Genealogical
Society Libraries lead them. One guy gets a clue about something, and he just
books a flight to wherever all the time.  I'm lucky I got to go to Salt
Lake City once and to New Mexico several times, but my husband never wants to go
to Mexico.  He is not that interested in where his people lived and died,
etc. 

Mexico Travel

Arturo.
 
I was studying the map carefully and found  8 San Felipes. 
 
Mary

Arturo Ramos wrote:

Mary:

About getting around in Mexico... as someone noted earlier, the bus
system is very good in Mexico.. nothing like Greyhound.  There are
luxury buses that are almost always on schedule and do non-stop
trajectories between major cities.  You should be able to get from
Mexico City to Guanajuato without any problems on such a bus.  I have
rented cars before and driven and believe me I enjoyed the buses much
more.

As far as maps, the Secretaria de Communicaciones y Transporte has
very detailed up-to-date road maps of every state in Mexico:

http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440

You can also order a Guia Roji, which is the premiere road atlas of
Mexico and is updated annually as well.

http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/store/strProductDetail.jsp?
prod_id=9706214186

The SCT map can be searched in Adobe Reader.  From what I can tell,
there are a number of San Felipes in Guanajuato. 

Entierros

Can someone who has looked at films of parrish books listing burials 
tell me how extensive the information listed in these books is?  Does 
it list parents, survivors of the deceased?  I have two particular 
issues... one where I cannot connect an ancestor (Marcos LEMUS m. Maria 
Barbara YBARRA) to any one of his potential parents (children of a 
Felipe LEMUS that was the grantee of the land where Marcos lived, his 
children were born, etc.).  I cannot find a marriage or birth record 
for him...

The other is that baptismal and marriage records for Jerez, Zacatecas 
seem to be missing for the crucial period at the end of the 17th and 
beginning of the 18th century when many families moved from there to 
Totatiche, Jalisco... so I am hoping that death records will make the 
connection.




Mexico Travel

Arturo:
 
Thank you!  It is good, in fact, crucial to know that there is more than one San Felipe.  I have written a letter and sent photos ahead and indicated to them that I would call this weekend.  Then I will get very specific details.  I love to drive but not by myself and not in unfamiliar areas.  I think I will take the bus.    Mary

Arturo Ramos wrote:

Mary:

About getting around in Mexico... as someone noted earlier, the bus
system is very good in Mexico.. nothing like Greyhound.  There are
luxury buses that are almost always on schedule and do non-stop
trajectories between major cities.  You should be able to get from
Mexico City to Guanajuato without any problems on such a bus.  I have
rented cars before and driven and believe me I enjoyed the buses much
more.

As far as maps, the Secretaria de Communicaciones y Transporte has
very detailed up-to-date road maps of every state in Mexico:

http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440

You can also order a Guia Roji, which

Bus travel

Just thought I would share my "experience" of riding the bus in Mexico.
This was in 1996. I had gone to Mexico around Holy Week to visit my 
youngest son who was in a study abroad program. Since his spring break 
coincided with Holy Week we decided to try to visit Zacatecas (I had 
previously contacted some distant cousins about the possibility of 
meeting them). According to the schedule the trip was to take 8 hours, 
so we decided to take the overnight bus, scheduled to arrive at about 6 
AM. It was a comfortable ride, but we fell asleep - slept through our 
stop (Zacatecas city)- went on two more stops (about 45 min.) then had 
to wait over an hour to catch a bus back to Zacatecas. We didn't dare 
wander away from the bus stop for fear of missing the bus back. We made 
it back OK, 'though the cousins were worried that we had not arrived at 
the appointed time.
The return trip to Mexico City was w/o incident.
 
Natalie Coleman in VA
PS - we had a lovely visit to the city - so much

Introduction

Hope:

The marriage records usually have the names of parents listed and 
your grandmother's marriage with Epifanio is listed in IGI and you 
can order the film from your local family history center to view the 
full record and see the parent listing.  One of our members, Deena 
Ortiz has this film at her local FHC.

ANCELMA RODRIGUEZ  
  Female   Family 
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  EPIFANIO RAMIREZ  Family 
  Marriage:  04 MAR 1878   Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico 
Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:       Source Call No.:  Type:  
 M606265     1874 - 1880  0226734           Film 


You should also know that there is a very good and detailed genealogy 
of the oldest settlers in Nochistlan, so if your gggrandmother's 
family is originally from there, you should have a great resource to 
go back pretty far.

Genealogía de Nochistlán, antiguo reino de la Nueva Galicia en el 
siglo XVII según sus archivos parroquiales 
Authors Vázquez y Rodríguez de Frías, José Luis (Main Author) 

Notes

Introduction

Hello or Holla to everyone,
My name is Hope Carmona Wilson and I am looking for information on my 
gg parents from Mexico. Like so many of us who are American by birth 
and who are searching for history of our past family memebers from 
Mexico,it seems to be like looking for a needle in a hay stack.I am 
very happy to have found you all.The information I am researching is 
for my maternal ggg mother.
Her name was Anselma Rodriguez, born 1860 in Nochitzlan, Zacatecas, 
Mexico.She died and was buried in Teocaltiche,Jalisco,Mexico date?? She 
married Epifanio Ramirez,born 1850(about)His parents were Rogelio 
Ramirez & Estanisla Duran. No other information known. Via FamilyTree 
DNA testing I learned I belong to the HVR1 B GROUP. This is a native 
american group which makes sence since back then, there was no United 
States.
As I learn more information I will be happy to help others in thier 
search.
Again, I am very happy to be part of this group.
Hope aka Esperanza




Mexico Travel

Mary:

About getting around in Mexico... as someone noted earlier, the bus 
system is very good in Mexico.. nothing like Greyhound.  There are 
luxury buses that are almost always on schedule and do non-stop 
trajectories between major cities.  You should be able to get from 
Mexico City to Guanajuato without any problems on such a bus.  I have 
rented cars before and driven and believe me I enjoyed the buses much 
more.

As far as maps, the Secretaria de Communicaciones y Transporte has 
very detailed up-to-date road maps of every state in Mexico:

http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440

You can also order a Guia Roji, which is the premiere road atlas of 
Mexico and is updated annually as well.

http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/store/strProductDetail.jsp?
prod_id=9706214186

The SCT map can be searched in Adobe Reader.  From what I can tell, 
there are a number of San Felipes in Guanajuato.  The largest city by 
the name is at the intersection of Highways 51 and 37 in the northern 
part

Mexico Travel

Mary Allen wrote:

Message: 7     Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005
19:49:29 -0700 (PDT)      From: Mary Allen
mary.allen3770@...      Subject: Re: collecting
oral history

Thank you, Natalie: I have gone to the section you
recommend and am trying to prepare myself for a good interview. One of the
persons I will visit is in her 90s so I will try to do it right the first
time.

Mary

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Hi
Mary!      Your message above reminds me of what I just
learned a couple of weeks ago.  I interviewed a 91 year old cousin (by
marriage) of my mother who provided me with some good
information........although my cousin (her son) told me that his mom's memory
was fading!  Yes, she did have some trouble remembering some things, but
what I did was refer to my Family Group Sheets on that particular family and
 "sort of jog her memory" and it worked!   I went slow......did
not push things on her, made it like an ordinary

Haplogroup A ancestor

Message: 8       Date: Wed, 19 Oct
2005 03:55:34 -000        From:
"Erlinda Castanon-Long"

Subject: Re: Haplogroup A ancestor

Victor you do match me on 4 numbers. mine are:Haplo group A
16111T 16223T 16290T 16319A 16335G 16362C 16526A

Josie, what were your numbers if you don't mind sharing?

Linda in Everett

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Hi Linda.....Hi
Victor!

Is this what you are
referring to (below)

 

 

HVR1 Haplogroup

A

HVR1 differences

from CRS

16223T

 

16290T

 

16319A

 

16362C

I just printed all this out
last night and really did not read it (properly) due to a lack of time.  I
have been in Houston for a week and unable to do "my thing" with my
genealogy/DNA projects.  What do these numbers mean?   If any
match to you (Linda & Victor) does that mean we have a common ancestor
"somewhere"