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Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

Mary Allen, do you have this record?

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch? International
Genealogical Index v5.0 
  Mexico 
PETRA ROMERO GONZALES  
  Female 
Event(s): 
 Birth:  
 Christening:  27 MAY 1872   Nuestro Padre Jesus,
Salinas Del Penon Blanco, San Luis Potosi, Mexico

Parents: 
  Father:  VICTOR ROMERO  Family 
  Mother:  REFUGIA GONZALES 

Source Information: 
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout
Call No.:  Type:  
 
Batch: K601881  1864 - 1875  Film #0708217  
 
Just Curious

Jose Munoz
Yuba City, Ca.


--- Mary Allen  wrote:

> Jonathan, you are so kind and encouraging.
>  
> I am especially concerned about my grandfather  Jose
> Adalberto Garana.  This is all I know about him:  
> He was born in 1873 in Mexico but I don't know
> where. I don't know his father's name but I believe
> his mother was Maria Garana. This leads me to
> believe that his father's name was something else. 
> He was educated by the Augustinians and the Jesuits

Trip to Jalisco, Zacatecas

(Leg. 1-2)
Alicia,
 
 
Did you try requesting the documents from the state
registrar?  The municipalities always make two books of the vital records
(the original which gets sent to the capital and the duplicate which stays in
the municipality).
 
 
Frequently, if you did not find it in the
municipality you'll find the record in the Registro Civil del Estado, whatever
state it is. You can find the address on the internet by googling
it.
 
If you are looking for someone in 1925 you might
try looking in the 1930 census film. You might find that person there including
the whole family and where they  are
from.                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Censo de población del municipio de Nochistlán de Mejía, Zacatecas
1930 
 

    Censo 1930
FHL INTL
Film        1520535 Items
6-7

    Censo 1930
(Leg. 2-3

Films in Database

great thanks and whose's films are those that don't have names in the
permanent loan column?


does anyone know?

joseph

ps: they look like mine but I didn't enter them so they aren't



Arturo Ramos wrote:

I have uploaded David Serna's and Rosalinda Ruiz's films to the
database. Most of them do not have batch numbers but they are listed
so you know who has them at their local FHL. I will try to add batch
numbers to them and try to upload Joseph's and some others as I have
time.








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Films on permanent loan.

why not talk to Salt Lake and pettition them to allow your films to be
ILL to you local library. All they can do is say no. I've understood
that in some cases they will do that, but maybe that's only when there
are absolutely not FHC anywhere close. This might not apply in your
case.



Jonathan do you know about this?



joseph



Peggy Delgado wrote:

You and me both, brother.....
-----Original Message-----

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of v.h.villarreal

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:08 PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [ranchos] Films on permanent loan.



Peggy,



I understand your feelings.  The nearest FHC for me usually opens only

on Saturdays and just for three hours.  It has 2 projectors but only

one is in working order.  On my last visit I was shown a letter where

they were asking for the films I haven't even reviewed to be sent

back.  At this rate it'll take at least a couple of

Help With Questions

great. Thanks Michael. I'll have a look and see if I can gleam a few
questions to ask from this material. Yes I knew about the name change
but didn't have it handy when I wrote. thanks again.



joseph



ps: if you're inclined can you make a folder in the "links" area of the
Group called USCIS (formerly INS) and put the links in this email in it
with a very brief description? then it will be available for later as
well thanks



Michael Gonzales wrote:

Hi Joseph,
 
If you want to see if INS records
contain information on where an individual comes from you might be
interested in the following sites.  As you might know, INS is no
longer.  The new Agency is the US Citizenship and Immigrations
Services.  However, the border crossing records are still available
through NARA.  I have also attached some Word documents on the specific
records that are available and what you can expect to find in them. 
There are NARA regional sites.  I have one here in Ft. Worth but I
believe

Films on permanent loan.

Victor and Peggy,
 
I don't know where you live but my advice is to find an FHC center that you really like within reasonable distance from you. I have 4 centers in my area but thanks to Helyn a Rancho's member I go to one that to date has been very good to me and while it's not the closest one they are very accomodating. I have also learned not to get over zealous by ordering too many films at one time. There are some films that are very long covering a long time span and some that are shorter and easier to review.
 
Thanks to many of you who answered my questions about lateral research. I have now given myself permission to take as long as necessary in order to get where I'm going in my ancestral search. It could be finding all my aunts and uncles(lateral) as well as my direct line ancestors and I'll get there when I get there
 
I have been scanning the films that I order record by record lest I miss something valuable. I now know that in the first films I reviewed last March when I

Trip to Jalisco, Zacatecas

Erlinda and Arturo,
 
I too found that they will not let you see the actual records. When I went to Nochistlan Zac they were  quite advanced for a small town in Mexico. They all had computers at the front office of the Registro Civil. The records that they did have they printed out certified documents for us based on what they had in the data base. I was able to come away with 6 certified documents but they don't let you access their books. When I asked for documents for my parents of 1925 they said they don't have any books for 1925 they were all destroyed or lost.
 
In Tlachichila the smaller town they have the books but they still won't let you see the books and there again they did not have records for 1925. I need to talk to the town historian or read a little history to see what happened in the year 1925.
I too have had better luck at my local FHC as well as at Salt Lake FHC. It's still good to visit your ancestor's town but don't expect to see much in terms of records or

Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

Jonathan, you are so kind and encouraging.
 
I am especially concerned about my grandfather  Jose Adalberto Garana.  This is all I know about him:   He was born in 1873 in Mexico but I don't know where. I don't know his father's name but I believe his mother was Maria Garana. This leads me to believe that his father's name was something else.  He was educated by the Augustinians and the Jesuits.    He married Petra Romero Gonzalez of Salinas, SLP, probably in 1904 and lived in San Luis Potosi, SLP,  and had a son in 1905 and daughters in 1907 and 1911.  In 1917 he crossed through El Paso with his wife and three children and others hired to work on the Santa Fe railroad.  They went to Fort Madison, Iowa.  I find him again in 1921 in San Antonio, Tx.  He died in Corpus Christi, Tx in 1958.  
 
Of my great grandfather I have found even less.  Victor Romero married Refugio Gonzalez and had a daughter Petra Romero Gonzalez in 1873 in Salinas, SLP.  I have found a photo of him dated 1894

Trip to Jalisco, Zacatecas

Arturo, When I was in El Limon Jalisco in 2003 we went to the parish 
office and talked with the girl in the office who told us we could 
not look at the actual books even though they were on the shelf 
behind her.  The priest walked in and asked what family we were 
looking for? My cousin's husband was trying to find his Santana 
ancestors who turned out to be part of the priests family.  He asked 
what year and took out a book wrapped in plastic because it was 
frail.  We opened it and the pages started turning to dust and 
blowing away.  Needless to say we closed it immediately and thanked 
him for allowing us to try.  It's very dry there and no special 
precautions were taken to preserve the books.
We went to Tamazula de Gordiano Jalisco next and they were so busy 
that they gave very poor service telling us they tried but couldn't 
find the records.  They had no copy machine so would have to do a 
form letter for whatever information was found, came home and found 
the records at

Jonathan's Film File-was-file uploaded to ranchos

For how long, the films stay at the FHC, depends on the Center. 
Especially, on how much room, they have.  Some centers, once the films
 go on indefinite loan, they stay forever.  Others stay until, the
center decides to send, them back.  That is why it is called "Indinite 
Loan".  In my center, thay stay forever,  I have not had a indefinite
loan film, go back to Salt Lake.

Also, in some centers, they have film copiers and scanners, where you
can make your own copies, of the documents, that you want.

If you have more questions, let them fly.  I am sure that between all
of us here in the Ranchos group & the Mexicanfhr group, we can find a
answer, for you.

Thanks,
Jonathan


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon fellow researchers....
> 
> I have a really silly question.  Do you members have the actual
microfilms
> that you refer to in this message?
> How is it that you can get them for such a long period of time. 
When I go
> to