Totatiche only... though I believe that all parishes in the bishphoric of Guadalajara were 
instructed to conduct full censuses that year.  I see censuses for Tlaltenango around that 
time but not Colotlan in the FHL catalog.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Arturo Ramos wrote:
> 
> >Prior to the foundation of the parrish of San Luis Obispo in Colotlan 
> >c. 1720, the Franciscans ran a convent (monestary) in the city, where 
> >marriages and baptisms were performed.  Apparently, there are archives 
> >of the convent, as they are quoted in Esteban Valdes Salazar's book 
> >Historia de Totatiche, Tomo II... which by the way is invaluable, since 
> >it has a transcritption of the entire 1770 census
> >
> was that the census for the Totatiche area only? or did it include Colotlan?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> > as well as 
> >transcriptions of the major land transactions that occured in the area 
> >through that period, so that one can plot out

Arturo Ramos wrote:

Prior to the foundation of the parrish of San Luis Obispo in Colotlan
c. 1720, the Franciscans ran a convent (monestary) in the city, where
marriages and baptisms were performed. Apparently, there are archives
of the convent, as they are quoted in Esteban Valdes Salazar's book
Historia de Totatiche, Tomo II... which by the way is invaluable, since
it has a transcritption of the entire 1770 census

was that the census for the Totatiche area only? or did it include Colotlan?

thanks,

joseph

as well as
transcriptions of the major land transactions that occured in the area
through that period, so that one can plot out the ownership of the land
and superimpose the residents on each of those plots.

Does anybody have any information on these Colotlan Franciscan archives?






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Zacatecas was never part of Jalisco.  It was a seperate intendency 
since before Mexican independence and in fact, I believe it was 
actually never even part of Nueva Galicia, but rather was settled 
before Nunez de Guzman conquered what later became Nueva Galicia (which 
comprised the modern states of Jalisco, Nayarit and Sinaloa).  
Nochistlan, the oldest Spanish settlement in Zacatecas dates from 1531.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/mexico.html

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/zacatecas/hist.htm

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Natalie"  wrote:
> or an historical geography lesson (not sure which), and I'm not sure 
> where/how to find the information. My question is - were Jalisco and 
> Zacatecas established at the same time as political jurisdictions, or 
> was one a part of the other first? If so, when were they separated?
> Any clues or sources greatly appreciated. Mil gracias.
> 
> Natalie in VA

Hello All,

I just added two new localities to my search in Zacatecas:  Ojo
Caliente and Trancoso.  The starting surnames are Alvarado and Colunga.

Anyone?
Victor

"El Archivo Franciscano" is found at the National Library in México.
Part of it is also found at the Public Library of Guadalajara.

Here's an interesting document (In Spanish):
http://www.ejournal.unam.mx/historia_novo/ehn09/EHN00907.pdf

In "Colecciones Mexicanas" from the "Universidad Nacional Autónoma de
México" there's a link to "Archivo Franciscano"
http://www.coleccionesmexicanas.unam.mx/

HIH


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" wrote:
> Prior to the foundation of the parrish of San Luis Obispo in Colotlan
> c. 1720, the Franciscans ran a convent (monestary) in the city, where
> marriages and baptisms were

or an historical geography lesson (not sure which), and I'm not sure 
where/how to find the information. My question is - were Jalisco and 
Zacatecas established at the same time as political jurisdictions, or 
was one a part of the other first? If so, when were they separated?
Any clues or sources greatly appreciated. Mil gracias.

Natalie in VA

"El Archivo Franciscano" is found at the National Library in México. 
Part of it is also found at the Public Library of Guadalajara.

Here's an interesting document (In Spanish):
http://www.ejournal.unam.mx/historia_novo/ehn09/EHN00907.pdf

In "Colecciones Mexicanas" from the "Universidad Nacional Autónoma de
México" there's a link to "Archivo Franciscano"
http://www.coleccionesmexicanas.unam.mx/

HIH


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
> Prior to the foundation of the parrish of San Luis Obispo in Colotlan 
> c. 1720, the Franciscans ran a convent (monestary) in the city, where 
> marriages and baptisms were performed.  Apparently, there are archives 
> of the convent, as they are quoted in Esteban Valdes Salazar's book 
> Historia de Totatiche, Tomo II... which by the way is invaluable, since 
> it has a transcritption of the entire 1770 census as well as 
> transcriptions of the major land transactions that occured in the area 
> through that

Prior to the foundation of the parrish of San Luis Obispo in Colotlan 
c. 1720, the Franciscans ran a convent (monestary) in the city, where 
marriages and baptisms were performed.  Apparently, there are archives 
of the convent, as they are quoted in Esteban Valdes Salazar's book 
Historia de Totatiche, Tomo II... which by the way is invaluable, since 
it has a transcritption of the entire 1770 census as well as 
transcriptions of the major land transactions that occured in the area 
through that period, so that one can plot out the ownership of the land 
and superimpose the residents on each of those plots.

Does anybody have any information on these Colotlan Franciscan archives?

Hello All,

I just added two new localities to my search in Zacatecas:  Ojo
Caliente and Trancoso.  The starting surnames are Alvarado and Colunga.

Anyone?
Victor