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[Fwd: Castle Garden now online]

thanks Kitty for this free database. Lots of entries for Spain.

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The Castle Garden Database is now online. You can presently search New York
passenger arrivals from 1830-1892.

http://www.castlegarden.org/

The data reported is Firstname, Lastname, Occupation, Age, Sex, Arrived,
Origin, and Ship. The website says, in part:

CastleGarden.org offers free access to an extraordinary database of
information on 10 million immigrants from 1830 through 1892, the year Ellis
Island opened.... From 1855 to 1890, the Castle was America's first official
immigration center, a pioneering collaboration of New York State and New
York City.

CastleGarden.org is an invaluable resource for educators, scholars,
students, family historians, and the interested public. Currently the site
hosts 10 million records, and support is needed to complete the digitization
of the remaining 2 million records, beginning in 1820, from the original
ship manifests.






Tlaxcaltecas en el Chichimeca

I need help. I would like for good messages like this and other that
are suggesting various books to be saved in the Ranchos2 files area.
Something like making a folder called "Indios" and a subfolder called
"Tlaxcaltecs" and then the books sited here inserted. As the messages
come in hot and heavy please do take this good information and save it
to a folder so we can reference it later. thanks,



joseph





Arturo Ramos wrote:

Alberto:

Thanks for the information.  Based on that article, I found a very 
useful book on the topic, which Schmal references:

People of the Peyote: Huichol Indian History, Religion, & Survival 
(Paperback) by Stacy B. Schaefer (Editor), Peter T. Furst (Editor)

I also ordered one of his books on genealogy.

Mexican-American Genealogical Research: Following the Paper Trail to 
Mexico (Paperback) by John Schmal, Donna Morales

I have also found a couple of books published by a University in 
Tlaxcala that are precisely on the topic of Tlaxacltec

Go To Digest


don't forget. . .if you are getting way too many emails just go to
Digest rather than consider unsubscribing.


or even go to "No Email" and read the posts online.

if you need help let me know.

joseph



Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

do a google on Las Llamas, Zacatecas. here is one hit although I didn't
find out if its the same Rancho next to  Tlaltenango. do the translate
to english on it:



Leyendas de Zacatecas - [ Translate this page ]La Pagina
de los Llamas. Leyendas de Zacatecas ... Los
filones de plata zacatecanos eran más reales y tangibles que las
riquezas de Cíbola y Quivira. ...

www.familiallamas.net/id18.html - 26k -
Aug 11, 2005 -
Cached
- Similar pages



joseph







Peggy Delgado wrote:

This may be a lame question, but if a Rancho
is listed as the birth place, what does that really mean?  How do I
find the histories of these ranches on the roles people played in
them?  What that information be on the same website?  I haven't really
looked and I don't understand Spanish too well although I can try and
muddle my way through. 
 
I'd appreciate any insight.
 
Peggy
 
p.s. the Ranchos I'm interested in are Las
Llamas and Encinillas, both outside of Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

various Ranchos

Why does it have to be offline? We want to know more information on your trip, too! It's interesting and very helpful to the rest of us. Purty Pleez? Marge:)



On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:36 PM, Santos Luna wrote:


Peggy, On my July trip to Tlaltenango, I was able to obtain some oral history from my cousins paternal grandmother who just celebrated her 100th birthday.

Her family said that she has great eyesight, and memory, She appeared to be in better health than her 80 year old daughter.

 

I was curious about the various "ranchos" so, I asked the various family members. Also, I was amazed at the distance between Tlaltenango, and some of the "ranchos"...she said that they would walk over the mountains...about 2 hours. Gosh...even in my days of running and hiking, the terrain would have been quite the feat. 

 

Back to your question...about the "rancho" being listed as the birth place...apparently this is where the family lived and worked, then they went to the nearest church for the

various Ranchos

Peggy, On my July trip to Tlaltenango, I was able to obtain some oral history from my cousins paternal grandmother who just celebrated her 100th birthday.
Her family said that she has great eyesight, and memory, She appeared to be in better health than her 80 year old daughter.
 
I was curious about the various "ranchos" so, I asked the various family members. Also, I was amazed at the distance between Tlaltenango, and some of the "ranchos"...she said that they would walk over the mountains...about 2 hours. Gosh...even in my days of running and hiking, the terrain would have been quite the feat. 
 
Back to your question...about the "rancho" being listed as the birth place...apparently this is where the family lived and worked, then they went to the nearest church for the baptismal.
 
In some of my research, I have found sometimes my ancestors had the child baptized in Tlaltenango, and other times in Momax, and the "rancho" was listed the same.
 
I met a distant cousin, who shared

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias

This
may be a lame question, but if a Rancho is listed as the birth place, what does
that really mean?  How do I find the histories of these ranches on the
roles people played in them?  What that information be on the same
website?  I haven't really looked and I don't understand Spanish too well
although I can try and muddle my way through. 
 
I'd
appreciate any insight.
 
Peggy
 
p.s.
the Ranchos I'm interested in are Las Llamas and Encinillas, both outside of
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas.
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Alberto
Duarte
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:27 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto
- Gracias

There is a ranch just outside of Jerez
called Lo de
Luna.  Many of my ancestors came from this ranch.
I
believe my  uncles (Garcia de la Cadena branch)
purchased the
ranch from the Munoz family in the early
1700's.

Alberto Duarte
Prieto
San

Rancho del Muerto - Gracias Part Two

I know
I wasn't the one who requested it, but I was very excited to find two Ranchos in
Zacatecas that were listed on my ancestors birth records!
Thanks
for the information!
Peggy
-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@...om
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Santos
Luna
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:09 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Rancho del Muerto
- Gracias Part Two

Rosalinda, Fantastic site!!! found what I was looking for,
and much more!!! Thank you for sharing.
Helyn


lareina2@... wrote:
Hi Helyn--
 
If you click on this link: http://biblio2.colmex.mx/bibdig/dicc_cubas/base3.htm ,
it is a geographic dictionary and lists many of the ranchos and
cities in Mexico, in alphabetical order.  Click on M, and then
scroll down to the link for Muertos, which happens to be on page 152, volume
4.  There are 18 ranchos listed under Muerto, and 5 under Muertos, with
other variations

filming Sombrerete

yes Dennis Daily is what I meant not Day. . .very nice person and easy
to talk to on the phone. Sometimes when you call Special Collections he
answers the phone. If anyone calls or emails him please report back on
future film sites on their agenda. thanks,


joseph

gmccrary@... wrote:

New Mexico State U. has filmed 3 archives from Mexico: three
collections in Durango--"the archives from the Durango Cathedral,
the state's notary records and a portion of the colonial materials
from the state historical archives." The Sombrerete will be the 4th
one.

NMSU worked with the town council to gain permission to film those
documents from Sombrerete. The person in charge at NMSU is
Dennis Daily. Perhaps you can contact him and inquire about future
projects.


Gloria



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Question:2005 Spain Yearbook

Sounds like they take the information out of some of the Surname
Encyclopedias and send general historical information. I haven't seen
this company specifically.



joseph



-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Question
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 02:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: MMG8938@...
To: makas@...






family="SANSSERIF" face="Arial" lang="0">Hello:



Have you ever seen the 2005 Spain Yearbook?  It is based in Denver,
CO.  I am skeptical because you put in a surname and the name becomes
the title of the book "The 2005 Ballesteros Family Yearbook".



I asked for Spain genealogy.....and this came up.  The price online is
$39.85....has anyone hear of this?   I wonder if this is the phone book
scam???



Mickey