I have eaten tamles with raisins and "dulce de viznaga" they are great
tasting. If you go to Northern Mexico, don't be surprised to find
olives in your tamal! ( Sonora)

John Gonzalez

Emilie,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and reflections since childhood 
about Mexican history.

I have frequently wondered more or less about the same things myself, 
but more so since I started my pursuit of genealogy.  I'm sure you'll 
agree that in this sense genealogy is much more than a simple hobby.

If everyone was at least partially aware of their own genealogical 
roots we would surely have a most tolerant and peaceful world.  As 
Mexicans, most of us are the product of the clash of two opposing 
worlds and cultures.  As difficult as it is to admit the painful 
facts of our ancestral history, we have to come to terms with both 
sides of our nature, and reconcile our inner self with the past.

I believe we should trascend the feelings of guilt or remorse as much 
as we should trascend the feelings of revenge or vindictiveness.  
Whenever we instruct those that come after us and cite or expose an 
episode of our history, we should never forget that greater calling 
we have as

Alicia,

You beat me to the saying "El que tiene más saliva traga más pinole", 
but have you heard the one that says "No se puede chiflar y tragar 
pinole al mismo tiempo"?

I guess that's the Mexican equivalent of "you can't have your cake 
and eat it too"

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> John,
>  
> Have you had atole de Pinole? If you haven''t you must try it, esta 
muy sabroso! You can make atole de pinole with milk or water or milk 
and water. Many people add sugar and cinnamon. It''s a thickened 
sweet drink usually served with tamales in the wintertime, especially 
at Christmas. Pinole comes in a dry powdered form and it takes 
moisture and heat to dissolve it. When you taste it dry because of 
it''s fine powdery consistency it can get caught in the back of your 
throat thereby inducing coughing fits.
> Have you heard the dicho or saying, El que tiene mas saliva, traga 
mas pinole? When two people engage in a verbal sparring match

I agree, John, everyone should give pinole a try!

Tarahumaras fame as runners is well known, but I've always heard that 
they frequently use peyote, their sacred cactus, to increase their 
stamina in long distance running across the desert.  Maybe they carry 
two little pouches: one filled with pinole and one filled with peyote?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lrapido" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> Talking about food...
> I wonder how many of our members have heard of "Pinole" ? Pinole is 
> a high energy food made from dry roasted corn ground-up and mixed 
> with brown sugar (Piloncillo, o panocha) and cinnamon and sometimes 
> either lemon or orange peel for flavoring. The Tarahumara indians 
of 
> Chihuahua use it as a staple food. Tarahumaras are basically 
> vegetarians, with meat accounting for about less than 10% of their 
> diet. They eat Pinole it or drink it ( can be mixed with water 
> or ? ) before they run the ultra marathons.  Pinole is a very 
> convinient high

I have eaten tamles with raisins and "dulce de viznaga" they are great 
tasting. If you go to Northern Mexico, don't be surprised to find 
olives in your tamal! ( Sonora) 

John Gonzalez

I am sorry.
 I somehow deleted a message from a person asking about Teocaltiche
Please send the message again.  I would love to answer it.

John Gonzalez