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Digest Number 499

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Deena Ortiz's work is especially welcome and much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

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There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Re: Sebastian de Vlloa
          From: "Deena Ortiz" 
     2. Re: Re: Sebastian de Vlloa
          From: Alicia Carrillo 
     3. Re: Digest Number 495
          From: Lorenzo Cuesta

4. Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen;
Lorenzo; Maria; Steven(2)

          From: Joseph Puentes 


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Message: 1
  Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:44:26 -0700
  From: "Deena Ortiz" 
Subject: Re: Sebastian de Vlloa

There are no parents identified

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Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven(2)

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Ojala que ya no lo tenemos. No e oido de los otros. voy a tener que
pidir por ayuda otra vez.



gracias



joseph



Lorenzo Cuesta wrote:

Hola Joseph,
 
Seguí tus instrucciones al pie de la letra.  No tuve dificultad
de acceso ni de lectura con los dos documentos que indicaste. 
¿Entonces, ya no tenemos el problem para almacenar documentos?
 
Atentamente,
Lorenzo Cuesta
Sacramento, CA


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Message: 4

Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500

From: Joseph Puentes

Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo;
Maria; Steven





albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,

readysetgo95814, sgapodaca



Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to
see

if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.



You need to go to "Links" then
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Digest Number 495

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Hola Joseph,

 

Seguí tus instrucciones al pie de la letra.  No tuve dificultad de acceso ni de lectura con los dos documentos que indicaste.  ¿Entonces, ya no tenemos el problem para almacenar documentos?

 

Atentamente,

Lorenzo Cuesta

Sacramento, CA


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,
readysetgo95814, sgapodaca

Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to see
if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.

You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on
"AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia
"
and then see
if you can access both either one of the files in my
briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our
storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb
which is more than we have now.

thanks,


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Sebastian de Vlloa

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Deena,
 
I was in Nochistlan last September and found that they have less information than the IGI does. I think that it might be possible to get more information in Guadalajara than in Nochistlan. In Nochistlan they only have archived the more recent information as in the last 120 years or around that time frame. They were reluctant to pull anything that was not on their computerized data base or they didn't have it there. My sister in-laws sister was, until her death in 2003 in charge of Tlachichila's Parish Records for about 40 years. Tlachichila is in the Municipio de Nochistlan and she said that most of the older records were in storage in Guadalajara. In order to gain access to those records you must be either a historian, professor, someone with influence in the Catholic church or you must present a good case to them as to why you would like to see these records. Maybe by our membership in this genealogical group collectively we could petition these records. Something to
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Sebastian de Vlloa

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There are no
parents identified in this record.  This is a problem that has become a
block wall for me on several lines.  For a series of years (about the first
third of the 18th century, 1752, 1785) no parents are identified for any of the
"pretensos" -- the bride and groom -- on the microfilmed records for marriages
in Nochistlan.  Since the abuelos were not indentified in the christening
records till the latter part of 1798, where do I turn without having to make a
trip to Nochistlan to break down these walls?  So far I have only looked at
the films of matrimonios and bautismos on loan from the Family History Center in
SLC.

 

~Deena Ortiz~


size=3> 

>Sebastian
de Vlloa

>just a guess but have you seen this
record?:

>SEBASTIAN DE VLLOA 

face="Times New Roman" size=3>  Male   Family

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size=3>http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/family_group_record.asp?familyid=160665229&indi_id=500167407018&lds=1&region=10&frompage=1
face="Times New Roman" size=3>>
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Sebastian de Vlloa

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just a guess but have you seen this record?:


SEBASTIAN DE VLLOA
  Male   Family
Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
Death: 
Burial: 
Marriages:
  Spouse:  YSABEL
XIMENES 		Family
  Marriage: 
01
OCT 1727  		 Nochistlan,
Zacatecas, Mexico
Messages:
Extracted
marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records
are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source

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Digest Number 497

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Has anyone traced the Ulloa family in Nochistlan back to the early 1600s?
According to Clotilde Evelia Quiarte in her book on Nochistlan, Gaspar de
Casareal y Ulloa was a founder of Nochistlan. Does anyone have Gaspar's
descendants?

I am interested because I have my grandmother Ulloa's ancestor back to
Sebastian de Ulloa born about 1704 and can't get beyond this. Perhaps
someone has done Gaspar downwards and I can use the data to link up.


Sincerely,

Charles Clark

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Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 497


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Topics in this digest:

     1. Re: Newspapers - early 20th century
          From: Armando Lopez 
     2. Historic Newspapers
          From: Joseph Puentes 


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Historic Newspapers

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I'd suggest emailing the University of Guadalajara closest to your
target area and asking them for which time period they have newspapers
in their archives. Then you'd have to travel there to see them if they
have what you need.



joseph



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Newspapers - early 20th century

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Hi Natalie.

I have been trying to access news from Los Altos, Jal., notably in the Arandas-Jesus Maria regions, also, but I haven't had any luck as of yet.

I have only found Catholic church publications.

Please let me know, if you're able, if you happen on any of these regional publications.

Thanks,

Armando Lopez V.

Natalie wrote:

Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a
great place for learning.

Natalie





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Newspapers - early 20th century

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Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in 
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about 
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a 
great place for learning.

Natalie
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