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Praying "the Tuesdays"?

I just got off the phone with my aunt Emilia in New Mexico.  She
called to thank me for the present I sent her, and as usual I started to pump
her about the family history.  She is the last of her siblings (my Mother's
sister), the only relative of her generation I have left) and she is 92, but
sharp as a tack.  We were discussing the fact that her grandmother could
read and write, which was unusual for a Hispanic woman born in 1865.  My
aunt said my great-grandmother was very smart and talented, not only could read
and write, but could sew, cook, make wine, make preserves, and heal with
massages and herbs, among some of her talents.  She was also a very devout
Catholic, and my aunt told me she still had her grandmother's prayer book, that
her grandmother would pray the (ten?) Tuesdays, and my aunt said she also uses
the prayer book to pray "the Tuesdays" (to Saint Anthony?).
 
Has anyone in the group ever heard of this practice of "praying the
Tuesdays"?  I asked my

Arturo Ramos & Mexico research

Wells Fargo has what they call an intercuenta account. You have an
account here where you deposit money and it is transfered to the
account in Mexico. I have used this method to send money to Mexico. The
exchange rate I got wasn't very good, but it was easy to do once it is
set up. Here is a link:

http://www.wellsfargo.com/per/intl_remittance/mexico?_requestid=364879



George Luna



Josie T. Trevino wrote:

The reason people from Mexico prefer not to deal with
checks or money orders is that it is VERY difficult to cash them in
Mexico.  They are charged an extra amount by the banks to cash checks
and most banks will deal only with certain types of money orders. 
There are ways that people send money orders to Mexico which are
acceptable, I think they are called "jiros or giros postales" or
something like that.  I can provide you with the name of a friend of
mine from Mexico who knows Mr. de la Torre and knows the
"system".......I am sure that if you spoke to him he could

Rita Hayworth

Rita Hayworth was not only an excellent and beautiful
actress, she had talent.  Any Hispanic that made it in
Hollywood in the '40s had be super beautiful and
talented. 

Regarding red hair...
Red hair runs in my wife's family; her
great---grandfather was also from Andalusia (Seville).
 Also, I've seen a number of families from Los Altos,
Jalisco, with red hair.  Like I said, the women from
Los Altos are very beautiful.  My wife gets real upset
whenever a gringo asks her if she is Spanish; she
always tells them "I'm Mexican, not Spanish"!

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Susana Leniski  wrote:

> Some members mentioned Rita Hayworth (Margarita
> Cansino), and I decided to write about her. 
> She was the daughter of Eduardo Cansino. He was a
> dancer born in Seville, Spain. In the Andalusia
> Region. He immigrated to America (New York) where he
> married. Margarita was born in New York city. Years
> later, the family moved to Tijuana, Mexico. Here,
>

Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

Thank you!
Mary

John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote:
 
Mary:
 
You are correct.  You didn't find it in the dictionary because of the spelling,  the word is:  "Hocico" and it means snout.
 
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Allen
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:45 AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

I'm surprised I could not find the word "osico" in my dictionary.  But as I recall, it is not really bad in itself.  Correct me if I am wrong, but it means "snout" or the mouth of an animal.  What makes it "bad" is who says it, to whom, why and how.   When the mother said it, it just surprised the students because
they didn't expect it of her.  It's not something a nice person would say to others.    As a teacher, I have heard it on the playground and they were fighting words.   
 
Mary
 

Rita Hayworth

Some members mentioned Rita Hayworth (Margarita
Cansino), and I decided to write about her.
She was the daughter of Eduardo Cansino. He was a
dancer born in Seville, Spain. In the Andalusia Region. He immigrated to America
(New York) where he married. Margarita was born in New York city. Years
later, the family moved to Tijuana, Mexico. Here, the father and Rita had a show
called "The Dancing Cansinos". It was here where Rita was discovered and the
rest is history .According with the family stories Eduardo was a "free spirit",
and his father didn't like his chosen profession.
 
On my part, My grand mother Maria de los Angeles
Cansino, was the daughter of Don Enrique Cansino. He was the brother of
Eduardo's father. My great grandfather emigrated from Malaga, in the Andalusia
region of Spain in 1880's. He relocated to Zacatecas, Mexico. He married my
great grandmother who was from Jerez, Zacatecas. Genealogy that now I'm
researching. My great grandfather left his whole

Ojos, Dientes, Lengua, Cabeza

 
Mary:
 
You are correct.  You didn't find it in the
dictionary because of the spelling,  the word is:  "Hocico" and it
means snout.
 
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Mary Allen
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:45
AM
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Ojos, Dientes,
Lengua, Cabeza

I'm surprised I could not find the word "osico" in my dictionary. 
But as I recall, it is not really bad in itself.  Correct me if I am
wrong, but it means "snout" or the mouth of an animal.  What makes it
"bad" is who says it, to whom, why and how.   When the mother said
it, it just surprised the students because they didn't expect it of her. 
It's not something a nice person would say to others. 
  As a teacher, I have heard it on the playground and they were
fighting words.   
 
Mary
 

Ramos and Cardenas Familes

I have an ancestor named Pablo Alverto Morillo from Las Tetillas, Jerez, Zacatecas. He married my ancestress Juliana del Carmen Villavicencio but I don't know when. They were the parents of Maria Antonia Morillo and of Joseph Sostenes Morillo. Maria Antonia married one of my Saldivar ancestors. I'd like more info on the Morillos, such as who are HIS parents and where are they from?!!! Marge, who gets frustrated at the adobe walls she finds....grrrrr.:(


  Father:  BARTHOLOME DE CARDENAS

  Mother:  CATARINA MORILLO



I have some additional information on Bartholome DE CARDENAS and

Catarina Morillo's family if you would like to see it.  I am not

related to this family, as far as I know, but I have been holding on

to this information because my 6th great-grand father was Bartholome

De Cardenas married to Barbara Gutierres during this same time period

in Colotlan.  I can't imagine there being two Bartholome De Cardenas,

so I thought perhaps they were the same person and he

Mexico Trip Report Part I

Peggy:

There are a number of Tuxpans... There is actually another Tuxpan in 
Jalisco, which is in the south of the state and there is also a 
Tuxpan (perhaps the best known one) in Nayarit.

There are a great number of RAMOS in the Totatiche area... most I 
think descendant from one of the Tlaxcaltec families that came in 
1591 to Colotlan.  Mine is not from these lineages but rather from a 
name change that occured around 1785.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado"  wrote:
>
> Hey!  I, just recently, found that I DO have a connection in 
Totatiche........I have ancestors, Jose Leonisio Hernandes married 
Maria Manuela Ramos married in Totatiche on 04/271768.  Although I 
can't find Maria Manuela's record of birth there, I have a record for 
her brother and sister: Joseph Alvino Ramos, born 03/12/1759 and 
Maria Martina Ramos, born 11/14/1756.
> I also have  a record for Jose Leonisio's sister, Maria Guadalupe 
Hernandes, born 12/26/1755.
> 
> Can I add these

Jerez, Zacatecas. La Inmaculada

Mary,
 
Great idea!!, thank you so much. I will contact
them with a suggestion
 
susana
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:00
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Jerez, Zacatecas.
La Inmaculada

Susana and Arturo,

Read my message about
ADABI.  How about contacting that group and ask
them to consider
these records for a project?

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo
Ramos" arturo.ramos2@v...>

wrote:
>
> Susana:
>
> If you read my previous
message you will note that there are in
fact
> a great deal of
records at the Inmaculada parrish in Jerez that are
> not filmed...
Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has transcribed a great
> deal of these
records but filming them would also be valuable.  I
> don't know
if it is going to be possible given the condition that
> they are in
and according to Leonardo make them difficult to film
and
> is
perhaps the reason why they

Jerez, Zacatecas. La Inmaculada

Josie,
Thank your for the information. I didn't speak with
her at the Library. I will contact her right now
 
Susana
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:07
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Jerez, Zacatecas.
La Inmaculada

Arturo Ramos
wrote:
 
"Susana Leniski stated: I also called the main
Library in
Utah with this information. I spoke to the same expert, and she
took
some notes. I have my doubts that my petition for microfilming was

forward. Does anyone know where I can petition formally the

microfilming of these records? What can we do?"
 
Hi
to all!
 
I
am a little late but want to wish everyone the very best in 2006!
 
In
trying to catch up with my e-mail I found the message above from Arturo Ramos
and I have a suggestion:
 
    When I was in Salt Lake City in
October, 2003 I met Karen A. Jepson, Community Relations