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Scientists/Inventors

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Hi Joseph:

I ran into a bit of information that I find hard to believe.
I have a book titled: Teocaltiche Tierra de Arrieros y Hacendados con 
Familias Ilustres.  The author is Nicolas de Anda Sanches.

On page 47. I quote:  " Tambien de este linaje desciende Dn. Juan de 
Alva que era arriero o carretero en el siglo pasado y que segun Dn. 
Victoriano Salado Alvarez, iba hasta los estados de Nuevo Mexico y 
Texas, a él se le atribuye ser el padre del "scientifico patentador" de 
miles de inventos, Dn. Tomas Alva Edison, nos lo comenta en el capitulo 
II de sus Memorias, correspondiendole a Encarnación de Diaz, ser la 
abuela de dicho personaje." 

I always thought that Thomas Edison's family came from Canada.

Can anybody shed some light on this? Any ideas?

John Gonzalez
Wildomar CA.
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Given Names

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In a message dated 12/20/2005 1:36:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,
auntyemfaustus@... writes:

Another common coincidence is when a man or woman lost a spouse they
would re-marry and the second spouse would have the same given name as the
first spouse.
 
When my parents divorced my dad married an Esperanza and my mom's
name is Esperanza, when my Padrino in Ensenada lost his first wife Berta, he
married again to another Berta and I have found several cases in my research
of widows or widowers who re-married and married someone with the same given
name as their first spouse.
 
Could this be coincidence?
 
Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

I think my mother was nuts - her name is Esperanza, she named her first
daughter "Linda Esperanza", named her 2nd daughter Maria Norberta (after a
grandmother), and then seemed to have forgotten names....naming me
Esperanza.  I have a niece whose name is Hope (she lives in Canada) and
another niece whose middle name
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Ashkenazi Levite and Joseph Puentes

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Hi all,
 
Wishing you all had a wonderful Christmas and all of us a Happy New
Year.
 
I just came in town and saw all the emails--taking my time to go through
them all, so I apologize if I am a little late on this response, which caught my
attention.
 
When I went Ghana, Africa, I learned about the "adrinka" symbols whose
origins are said to be of the Ivory coast, originating by the Asanti
people.  As I stared at the beauty of the symbols, one struck my
attention - I had seen it before.  I asked the professor about this
particular symbol, and guess what - it is one that can be seen in Spanish
architecture - probably coming from the Moors.  What the professor was
claiming that the adrinka symbols was unique to Ghana was probably erroneous,
especially considering that Ghana was a center of trade long time ago --- so the
poor professor had to acknowledge that the Ghanaian symbol probably evolved from
a combination of other northern or eastern African cultures as well as the
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Mexican Scientists and Learned Individuals

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This link has a broad coverage of history in early colonial Mexico.
 
 
Alicia

Joseph Puentes wrote:

So during the colonial times were there any learned indivduals in
Mexico? Scientists? Inventors? Musicians? Doctors? Architects? Poets? etc?

I guess I'm looking for that time period from the Conquest to the
1800's. I realize that the closer you get to current times you will have
a much larger selection of examples of the above, but I'm wondering what
was going on during the 400 years between 1500-1899?

just curious,

joseph

ps: didn't Spain open up a handful of Universities in these early times?
I
wonder what the graduates of these Universities were doing?




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Mexican Scientists and Learned Individuals

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Joseph,

The foundation of the Universidad de Mexico dates back to 1551 and it is the oldest University in Latin America.  Read the quote below:

En la "CEDULA REAL SOBRE LA FUNDACION DE LA UNIVERSIDAD DE MEXICO" se menciona "Dada en la ciudad de Toro en 21 del mes de septiembre de 1551". Fue dictada por el Rey y Emperador Carlos V. Menciona el Emperador en la Cedula: "he sido suplicado fuesemos servidos de tener por bien que en la dicha ciudad de Mexico se fundase un estudio e UNIVERSIDAD DE TODAS LAS CIENCIAS DONDE LOS NATURALES Y LOS HIJOS DE ESPAÑOLES fuesen industriados en las cosas de nuestra Santa Fe Catolica en las demas facultades Y LES CONCEDIESEMOS LOS PRIVILEGIOS Y FRANQUEZAS Y LIBERTADES QUE ASI TIENE EL ESTUDIO E UNIVERSIDAD DE LA CIUDAD DE SALAMANCA..." "Desde los primeros tiempos de su fundacion la Universidad Real y Pontificia se rigio por las Constituciones de la Universidad de Salamanca, modificadas en algunos aspectos por el Virrey y la Audiencia, para
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Mexican Scientists and Learned Individuals

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Joseph,
 
I know that in the 1800's, just there in Jerez alone, there were lots of
painters, poets, and intellectuals.  (I just found one of my Reveles line
was a "pintor" and since he later worked for MGM as a set designer in the 20's
to 40's, I know he didn't paint buildings.  Also, in the book I have called
Historia de Mexico, there is a chapter on "Vida Intelectual y Artistica en el
Periodo Colonial".  I will transcribe it for you, but it will be slow going
since it is a smelly moldy old tome that I am allergic to and can only handle it
for a short time before I start to cough, etc.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA----
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Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:38
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Subject: [ranchos] Mexican Scientists and
Learned Individuals


So during the colonial times were there any learned
indivduals in
Mexico? Scientists? Inventors? Musicians? Doctors?
Architects? Poets? etc?

I guess I'm looking
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2 New History Podcasts

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Mi deseo es que tienen un prospero año nuevo:



check out "The Conquest of Mexico part 4" and "The Requiermiento."



joseph



ps: I have quite a few irons in the heat right now. Hopefully 2006 will
continue to add to this project.



pps: maybe if you hear of someone making a presentation on a historical
subject you can let me know or talk to them yourself about contributing
to the project. Keep your ears tuned to opportunities to find new
material about our history.  I'm very interested in collecting more
information for NFU.


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Mexican History

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with regards to the Nuestra Familia Unida podcast project. What topics
dealing with Mexican History would you be interested in listening to?
I'm trying to get up a list of topics to pursue getting someone to talk
about.


joseph

Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia

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Maria

I am interesteed in two families the first is Romo de Vivar and the other is the De La Torre families.

I am also interested in getting information on how I could acquire the books of the Retonios de Espania en la Nueva Galicia

Thanks

Jose Alfredo De La Torre Romo

Mexican Scientists and Learned Individuals

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So during the colonial times were there any learned indivduals in
Mexico? Scientists? Inventors? Musicians? Doctors? Architects? Poets? etc?

I guess I'm looking for that time period from the Conquest to the
1800's. I realize that the closer you get to current times you will have
a much larger selection of examples of the above, but I'm wondering what
was going on during the 400 years between 1500-1899?


just curious,

joseph

ps: didn't Spain open up a handful of Universities in these early times?
I wonder what the graduates of these Universities were doing?
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