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Given Names

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Elvira,
 
Are these historical Mexican novelas like mini-series that we see here in
the US?  I would love to see those, but we get no Spanish language
broadcasts here in the Seattle area.  Where could I get the videos or
DVDs?  I just love costume dramas.
 
Also, a long time ago, my Spanish friend told me that my mother, who was
from New Mexico, spoke a very old Spanish dialect and she even told me the
province or area in Spain where it was once spoken, but I can't remember
it.  Could it be Estremadura?
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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From: elviraz
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:27
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Given Names

Actually, they sound more like
Mexicans.  
 
    If you can get it in your area, try
to watch a novela called  'Alborada".  It's a historical novel about
Mexico during the early 1800s.  It'll give you a good idea of Mexico
during that time. There are other
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Meeting in Southern California

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So who exactly is in charge of putting a meeting together in southern
California?


Has a specific date and time been set and a location chosen?

(My vote is for anywhere along the 210 between Claremont and Pasadena, and
the best day for me is either the first or second Saturday in February.)


What's the agenda?

Will there be food?

~Deena Ortiz~

Yusuf: Names 's' and 'z'/HOHOHO

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Joseph, regarding the Je. and Ma. they are abbreviations for Jose and
Maria.  I have seen Juan abbreviated as "Jn.", Encarnacion as Encn. with
the n written in smaller and above the line, etc.
 
Emilie Garcia
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Subject: [ranchos] Yusuf: Names 's' and
'z'/HOHOHO

you said: I hope I sort of answered your
question

David. . .fabulous answer and I'm so glad I
asked.

thanks for taking the time to share with us things we need to
hear more
about and absorb. In fact why not consider adding a little here
and
there and tossing in a few references and producing a podcast on this

subject. It is something that many many people need to hear and I'd be

very happy to archive your message in both Audio and written form on the

NFU podcast. What do you think?

And while we're at it what do you
have to say about the
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Given Names

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The 'manitos had been in New Mexico since Onate's time there, 1598, but it
could be that Cuba and Puerto Rico were settled by the same group of Spaniards
that settled New Mexico in the 16th Century.  I agree that some of the
speech is similar between the two groups.

 

Emilie Garcia

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They sound like Cubanos or Puertoriquenos to me.:) Marge
On
Dec 20, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:


These people were
known as "manitos" (the priests had told them they were Hermanitos), and
their nasally speech was unique, an ancient 16th century Spanish, where they
dropped the first and last parts of words as in 'equia for acequia, and
'manito for hermanito, and colorao for colorado, and they had beliefs and
practices unique to them.  Due to more mobility nowadays, that is all
gone.
 
?>
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Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman Ruins

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I just put it on hold at my library. Marge:)

On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:51 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:


just watched a great video called Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman

Ruins. If you are subscribed to the Blockbuster rental program it is

available on that. I don't know if you can get it at a regular

blockbuster. it goes all around Spain showing the oldest architecture

and giving some of the history behind it.



joseph









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Historical Novels and CDs

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Hi Ed:

 

I purchased a book from "Libros Latinos" 
Here is their address:  Libros Latinos,  301  9th St.  Ste.
B.  Redlands, CA.  92374

 

Their phone number is: 
909-798-1342

 

Good luck.

 

John Gonzalez

Wildomar, CA.



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I
am interested in your historical novel and other historical CDs. What source
do you use to
purchase these items? I could not find "Alborada" on Amazon
or Libros Latinos.

Thanks,

Ed


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Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman Ruins

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just watched a great video called Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman
Ruins. If you are subscribed to the Blockbuster rental program it is
available on that. I don't know if you can get it at a regular
blockbuster. it goes all around Spain showing the oldest architecture
and giving some of the history behind it.


joseph

Fw: Re: Puentes/Puente question

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I don't mind sending it out to all.

David

-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes 
>Sent: Dec 23, 2005 2:07 PM
>To: "David P. Delgado" 
>Subject: Re: Puentes/Puente question
>
>this is good stuff. . .I can see that if the way people held their 
>tongues was different then also the way they heard and understood and 
>tried to interpret certain sounds both in their pronunciation and 
>writing was subject to a variety of errors. yes it is not so simple as 
>just "they were illiterate and wrote things any way they felt like at 
>the time."
>
>thanks much. . .you bring to the group a much needed perpective and 
>valuable education. please use it as often as your time will allow. And 
>my invitation to create an audio file for the NFU podcast will continue 
>to patiently wait for your submission. thank you.
>
>joseph
>
>ps: if you want to repost this to the group I'd welcome it but you decide.
>
>
>David P. Delgado wrote:
>
>>Joseph,
>>
>>In my response
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Odd Names

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My father's name was Agapito, when he joined the Navy, everyone called
him "Joe", when he came home everyone in the family started calling
him "Daddy Joe". When I married and had a son, (my husband's family
always names the first boy after the two grandfathers)my dad did not
want his grandson named "Agapito" so we named him "D.J." after Daddy
Joe (Agapito) and my son's name is Russell D.J. My father's mother was
"Baldomera",she had other names (which no one remembers) but she went
by "Baldomera". My Mom's grandfather's name was "Pantaleon Fuentes" (
I just found out) which I am researching in Jalisco.
Feliz Navidad to all! Hilda
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Historical Novels and CDs

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janet iglesias wrote:

"Amor Real" is on DVD @ Target or Walmart. It's also another soap
opera . . . It's suppose to be during the late 1800's in Mexico.



Blockbuster had this one but not the other two.



thanks again, I'll see what they are about when they come in.



joseph

 

Also, Pick up "Corazon Salvaje" on DVD . . . Time: Around 1600's
in Mexico.

 

Great Novelas!! 







Janet
Iglesias

From: Joseph Puentes


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To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Historical Novels and CDs

Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:47:35 -0500

>

>

>Edward Serros wrote:

>

>>--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "elviraz"
wrote:

>>

>> If you can get it in your area, try to watch a novela called

>>'Alborada". It's a historical novel about Mexico during the
early

>>1800s. It'll give you a good idea of Mexico during that time.

>>There are other historical novelas about Mexico you can either
get

>>on tape or CD

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