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Ignorance is not Bliss

Hello Alicia, I wish you read spanish. Whenever I search for info about any town of Mexico I write the name in that space that says "search in the web" in my cp. I did it arter reading you message and jalpa has a site. I did open the first item.  It is nice. in one of the options, wich is "jalpa" it opens into more options, so hope you luck              Leticia Leon Morales

 

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Question about Researching in a Parish

Jonathan, I spent 3 days in Ciudad Guzman/Zapotlan El Grande but 
didn't know at the time that my ancestors had lived there so didn't 
look at it through those eyes.  There are 2 church's in the square.  
A very large one and to the side a small one. If your searching for 
specific records double check which of the two church's have them.  
The people were very friendly and there are a great variety of 
hotels and motels with a very old one right in the plaza area. It's 
a hub for everything in that part of Jalisco. My destination was 
Tamazula and Zapotiltic but the accomodations there were terrible so 
we returned each night to our motel in Ciudad Gusman, I believe the 
rooms ran about $40. American for a room for 3 people and were very 
nice. Lot's of good place's to eat and even a natural yogurt and 
health food store that was wonderul.
Good luck on your trip, Linda in Everett

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> Thank you all, for your

Question about Researching in a Parish

Thank you all, for your suggestions.  Where several of you asked in
what area I will be.  I most likely will be in Sonora, Sinaloa, and
possibly in Cd. Guzman and Sayula in Jalisco.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, MMG8938@... wrote:
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> Jonathan:
> 
> I wrote directly to you.  But I failed to mention about the cemetery
records. 
>  Some have offices at the entrance.  Also be careful in the
cemetery.  You 
> can get assaulted.  Be careful!
> 
> Are you going to Sonora?  I was trying to remember where your wife's
people 
> were from...cannot remember.
> 
> Also received your cd's and the pic....now you see why I do not like
to take 
> pictures!!!   Thank you very much for the CD's.
> 
> Mickey
>





Ignorance is not Bliss

Dear Ranchos Members,
 
I thought I would share some of my musings and findings. Yesterday I called my sister-in law to share some information regarding one of our common ancestors going back 4 generations in Tlachichila, Zac. and also to ask a question about some Mexican History regarding this region. Last week while reading film # 0226731, Matrimonios de Nochistlan, years 1842-1847. Our ancestor, Mateo Ruiz de Esparza's first marriage to Maria, Florencia Gonzales in January 1845 states that he is from Jalpa Zac. but I noticed that within that time span there were many other marriages which showed that either the bride or the groom were from Jalpa and were new arrivals to Tlachichila, some for a few months and some a few years. It made me wonder why so many new arrivals from Jalpa. What made these people leave Jalpa Zac which is a larger town and come to Tlachichila which is so remote and isolated? and only has subsistence
farming, no other industry? I thought to ask her since she

Question about Researching in a Parish

Jonathan:



I wrote directly to you.  But I failed to mention about the cemetery records.  Some have offices at the entrance.  Also be careful in the cemetery.  You can get assaulted.  Be careful!



Are you going to Sonora?  I was trying to remember where your wife's people were from...cannot remember.



Also received your cd's and the pic....now you see why I do not like to take pictures!!!   Thank you very much for the CD's.



Mickey

Question about Researching in a Parish

Jonathan,
 
I have only gone to two places in Mexico, to Nochistlan Zac and Tlachichila Zac but did not have any luck in getting access to the actual records. Having said that it was at the beginning of my geneaological journey and in Tlachichila I think and hope that if I come prepared with documentation showing that I am doing verifiable research, I believe I might be allowed access. My cousins still live there and are well connected in the church. Hope as they say is everlasting so I will not lose hope.
 
I would advise you to be well prepared to present your credentials as a researcher and possibly be willing to pay a small fee or make a small donation to the church, nothing lost in trying. Many times church offices are closed because they have limited financial resources and cannot hire a full time secretary or receptionist. You might find the name of your town on-line, check for a contact name and number and
see if you can call ahead to schedule an appointment.
 
What

Question about Researching in a Parish

Jonathan, my "cemetary" experience in El Durazno was that someone in 
each town has a key to the local cemetary, I did not find any that 
were open, they were locked.  At the older cemetary in Los Haros, 
district of Jerez we were lucky that someone was working there and 
agreed to let us in, we had to leave when they did.  Cemetaries were 
not taken care of but the marble monuments were huge and paid for by 
relatives from the states who sent money I was told. When we were in 
Guadalajara the same was true for the really old cemetaries, someone 
had to admit us.
I had no luck finding records in Jerez Zacatecas, El Limon and 
Tamazula Jalisco.  Clerks were overworked and without copy machines or 
time to give us. I had better luck with the records at the FHC.
The trip was still very much worth the time and money, wonderful 
people just researching records is not a priorty for them.  I asked to 
check a marriage ledger from 1920 and was told the public is not 
allowed to touch the books

Question about Researching in a Parish

Hello all,

Have any of you ever done research in the actual Parish in Mexico?

I am asking, because in about 3 weeks, I will be going to Mexico. And
if possible I will try find some information at the parish and
cemetary level.

So could anyone give me some pointers, on what to expect? Or the best
way to approach the subject?

Thanks,
Jonathan






Digest Number 749

What is the address of the southern California meeting?

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

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There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Unable to attend Southern California Meeting
          From: Alicia Carrillo 
     2. Monte grande
          From: "Susana Leniski" 
     3. Re: Monte grande
          From: "elviraz" 


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Message: 1
  Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 19:49:03 -0800 (PST)
  From: Alicia Carrillo 
Subject: Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Oh boy, now I am really sorry I cannot attend the southern Cal meeting. We
had two deaths in the family in January, one to Baja Calif and the