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Researcher for Zacatecas

I forgot to mention the website under contruction where Mr.De La 
Torre has where he freely shares information.  
http://club.telepolis.com/letorre/archivo/introduccion1.htm
Linda in Everett

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "rosa9972"  wrote:
>
> I would definitely be interested in this, since some information I 
> need is unavailable, for the years I need are missing.  Count me 
in 
> on the contribution for his information.  What a great resource, 
and 
> thanks, Arturo, for contacting him.  
>  
> Great work!
>  
> Prima Rosalinda
> 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" 
 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan 
along 
> > with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.
> > 
> > Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
> > information that he has already compiled from him and then it 
> would 
> > be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
> >

Researcher for Zacatecas

A few years ago I purchased "Filigranas, Fundaciones Y Genealogias, 
Tepetongo, Zacs. by Mr Jose Jeon Robles de la Torre published in 
1999.  He includes in his book genealogy that is connected to him. 
He includes the De La Torre, Correa, Sanchez, Nava, Gonzales, 
Murillo, Carlos, Rodriguz, Mejia, Zuniga and Salazar lines. The book 
has more than 500 pages of information.  I was hoping to connect but 
found my Spanish just isn't good enough to read it... The man is 
obviously very well educated, a poet and very respected. I paid $90. 
for the book. If anyone is interested in buying it from me for what 
I paid I would be happy to pay the postage.  It should be with 
someone who can use it much better than I have.
Linda Castanon-Long in Everett Wa.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "rosa9972"  wrote:
>
> I would definitely be interested in this, since some information I 
> need is unavailable, for the years I need are missing.  Count me 
in 
> on the contribution for his

Researcher for Zacatecas

I would definitely be interested in this, since some information I 
need is unavailable, for the years I need are missing.  Count me in 
on the contribution for his information.  What a great resource, and 
thanks, Arturo, for contacting him.  
 
Great work!
 
Prima Rosalinda


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  
wrote:
>
> I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan along 
> with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.
> 
> Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
> information that he has already compiled from him and then it 
would 
> be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
> think that is going to be a delicate negotiation and it really 
> depends on what it is that he has.
> 
> He has mentioned that the Jerez parrish archves have confirmation 
> records and informacion matrimonial records for most of the years 
in 
> the 17th century where the baptism and marriage records are

Researcher for Zacatecas

I have already arranged to meet Mr. de la Torre in Colotlan along 
with Esteban Valdes Salazar in a couple of weeks.

Mr. de la Torre has also suggested that we could purchase Jerez 
information that he has already compiled from him and then it would 
be ours to share among ourselves.  I dared not ask a price, as I 
think that is going to be a delicate negotiation and it really 
depends on what it is that he has.

He has mentioned that the Jerez parrish archves have confirmation 
records and informacion matrimonial records for most of the years in 
the 17th century where the baptism and marriage records are missing.  
He also does a lot of research on protocolos from the Zacatecas state 
archives, which are not available on film.

Ed and I are definitely going to hire him.  He is very particular 
about getting paid up front and via wire transfer... This is not too 
big a deal if we collect money and pay him a monthly stipend, which 
is his suggestion.  I think it is a matter of making

Researcher for Zacatecas

I am interested to know how computer-savvy Mr. De La Torre is as regards
doing genealogy research online.  He has an e-mail address, so obviously he
is computer-literate, but if I e-mailed him, would he know what I was talking
about if I mentioned the IGI, Ancestry.com, World Connect, etc.?  Would he
be able to scan and e-mail copies of records and photos, or would he prefer
snail-mail?   I cannot go to Jerez, and all my communication with him
would be via e-mail or snail-mail, and I could send money to him from our local
post office, the way I see the green-carders here doing (sending money to
Mexico). 
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ----
----- Original Message -----
 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:14
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for
Zacatecas



zendean wrote:

Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to

Researcher for Zacatecas

Joseph,
Jose Luis  took the words right out of my mouth! 
:-)   I was also thinking the same thing.......if we, those that are
interested, each contribute a certain amount of $$$, would Senor Leonardo de la
Torre Berumen do research for us?  I met Senor de la Torre a few years ago
in Jerez and he is a very nice person, very knowledgeable......and a very
sharing person.  I would not hesitate to have him do research for me. 
I really believe we are on to a good thing here......
 
Josie Trevino Trevino
San Antonio, TX



From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of zendean
Sent:
Monday, December 05, 2005 4:35 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for
Zacatecas

Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be
necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line per
month. If there was a coordinated effort to line up all parties/surnames and
locations then it would be possible for the searcher

Priciliano Cerro Godina

Yes, Leticia,
 
I also try all the known surnames that a person has been known to
use.  Step-mother or step-father's name, the mother's or the grand-mother's
maiden name, etc.  For example, my husband's great-great grandmother was
"hija natural de Ramona Ornelas".  Her son, Simon Garcia said her surname
was Gonzalez, which I think was her father or step-father, but mostly she used
Ornelas or De Leon in the baptism records for her children or for her marriage
record.  I don't know yet where she got the De Leon.
 
Other times I just use different spellings or leave off the "s" at the end
of a name, or change an "e" to an "I", etc.  When I use the IGI, I just
type in one very simple surname, like Serros or Cerros and do not check off the
"exact spelling", and it gives me all the different versions of that name: 
Del Cerro, Serro, Serros, Cerros, Cerro, so my fingers just fly over the
keyboard and I find myself using the "refine search" to get to the particular
state, then

Researcher for Zacatecas





zendean wrote:

Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line per month.

who are they contributing to? Are you saying this is a "going rate?"



Arturo says he is going to talk more to el señor Leonardo de La Torre.



Ed Serros was in communication with him before. Ed, how was your
experience?



joseph

 If there was a coordinated effort to line up all parties/surnames and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do each line and make a good living. Do you agree ?  I wonder if this is a practicable suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it works out then a link will have been established that we all can follow. We would need to see the film documentation or it would be valueless.
I would like to hear your take on the matter as I think that this could blossom.

yes there is a good possibility. Let's see what Arturo says after he
talks to him more. We might need to wait

Researcher for Zacatecas

Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line per month. If there was a coordinated effort to line up all parties/surnames and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do each line and make a good living. Do you agree ?  I wonder if this is a practicable suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it works out then a link will have been established that we all can follow. We would need to see the film documentation or it would be valueless.
I would like to hear your take on the matter as I think that this could blossom.

Jose Luis Macias
decendant of Francisco Macias, of Jerez, Zacatecas

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes 
Sent: Dec 4, 2005 11:46 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Arturo Ramos 
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas

Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly stipend? 
Are you thinking that

Priciliano Cerro Godina

You are correct.  Iam thinking,
California.  It is very unlikely that the local weatherman would mention
the Sierra Madre Oriental or Sierra Madre Occidental in Mexico.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:09
AM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Priciliano Cerro
Godina

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John
Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>

> I remember seen a definition of cerro as backbone, or espinazo.

Cerros means a small mountain.  It goes: Loma, cerro, montaña
y
sierra, degrees according to size.  Sierra means "saw" as the tool
the
carpenters use.  The name  "sierra" was given to the mountain
chain
because they resemble the teeth of a  saw. There is only one
Sierra
Nevada, it was named for its snow covered peaks.  I just cringe
when I
hear statements in the media such as:  "Great week-end to visit
the
sierras"  TV people  (professionals?)  Should know that