--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote>
> 
> I just looked at the group member genealogies. Here is the official 
> count: we have 109 members but only 77 genealogies. that means that 
> there are 32 members that have not turned in your representative tree 
> connecting you to our group study area. I know a good ten of you 
> possibly 15 have talked to me and bought yourself some time before the 
> official "Ax" date of January 31, 2006
> 
> Anyway if you are one of the 10-15 people that talked to me asking for 
> more time beyond the January 31, 2006 deadline then in about a month or 
> so please contact me off the list with a "reminder" that you talked to 
> me. I'm going to make up a special email folder this time around for 
> those that have communicated with me. For all other new members I just 
> want to say that "communication" will get you an extension. Lack of 
> communication will get you. . .well, I guess that's why I call it "Ax" 
> day. In the

Alicia, Leticia et al:

Humildemente me retracto de mi sugerencia anterior.  Es verdad que 
ellos vienen a nosotros... suelen venir en ocasiones inesperadas y 
siempre con algun mensaje inesperado.

La mayoria de lo que he aprendido a traves de mis investigaciones han 
sido temas que no buscaba y definitivamente mis ancestros que he 
llegado a conocer son diferentes a los que imaginaba.

Gracias por recordarnos que es necesario mantener una mente abierta y 
mucha paciencia.

p.s. Mis dos hermanas se llaman Leticia y Alicia (por coincidencia).


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
>
> Leticia,
>  
> Muy bien dicho el que ''ellos vienen a nosotros". El hecho de 
precipitarse en cuestion de los ancestros es causa de desviacion o 
equivocacion. Debemos mantenernos abiertos mentalmente hasta que 
ellos (los ancestros) nos señalen la via correcta.
>  
> Cordialmente,
> Alicia Carrillo
> San Jose, Ca
> 
> leticia leon  wrote:
> si, he visto

Irma,

You could save the map to a file then open it up in photo editer 
program.  Crop it to remove all the white space from the sides then 
resize it to your page (8x11.5).  Make sure when you resize it that 
you maintain the same proportions.  Usally in the photo editer 
programs there is usually a check box for that.  You should then be 
able to print.

Good luck.
Angie


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Irma GomezLucero" 
 wrote:
>
> What a jewel.  I can several of my ranchos.  Is there a way to get a
> copy of the entire map.  I am able to view the entire map, but can 
only
> print out the left top portion.
>  
> Irma
>

si, he visto solo de paso esa decendencia pero nada que llegue a mi acendencia; un compañero dijo que en cuestion de genealogia "nosotros vamos hacia ellos, ellos no vienen a nosotros": oñate, el apellido se extendio por toda la iberia y no tengo ninguna noticia de cual region podrian ser los mios. Muchas gracias por la orientacion.

Arturo Ramos escribió:

Lili:

Have you explored the possible descendancy from Juan de Onate and
clan?  The name seems rare enough that it is likely most Onates in
Mexico are descendants of the same family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_Onate


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "lili pinzon"

Joseph,

 

If you can read recipes in a book and

Interesting map
Thanks for the map.  I found a ranch or pueblo where
one of my greatggggmothers once lived-S. Jose de la
Isla, approximately on the year 1797.  I also
confirmed the road that once ran through my
greatggggfathers ranch Lo de Luna; the road was a
direct line from Jerez to Zacatecas, and my
great--uncle Tiburcio Duarte in 1815 charged the
stagecoach line for passing through his ranch or road.


Albert Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California 

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> I've put this link to the 1876 map of Jalisco in the
> Links area under maps:
> 
>
http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/RANCHOS/maps/IstDraft2_copy.jpg
> 
> thanks Gloria Delgado for providing the map from the
> UC Berkeley Library.
> 
> joseph
> 
> 





		
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