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My name is Delia Dominguez Duran. I am a member of Nuestros Ranchos as l have attempted to discover my ancestral roots. My question to you is whether you can recommend an organization and or testing site or type of test I can employ to determine the racial group or groups
that might give me insight to my genetic roots.
I am also a member of Ancestry.com , and they do offer a site but am not familiar with DNA testing and if one site or type of test might be better than another.
My maternal grandparents were born in the Mexican states of Jalisco(Mora / Rodriguez surname) and Aguascalientes (Rodriguez/ Reyes surname) Paternal grandparents Arizona (Dominguez / Hernandez surname) paternal great gandmother possibly Chihuahua via Zacatecas (Hernandez / Carbajal surname) .
Can you recommend a type of test or organization that will help establish my genetic roots .
Respectfully,
Delia Dominguez Duran
rsduran@aol.com

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SSFTREJO

9 years 7 months ago

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I'm interested in familytree DNA's ydna test, but unsure how many markers to purchase. Does anyone have any experience/recommendation with this test?

For a Y-DNA test the minimum number of STR markers you should get tested are Y-DNA37 and if you can get a Y-DNA67 marker test that's even better since sometimes people separated by 10 generations won't match at 37 markers but they will at 67 markers.

The tests are cheaper if you order through a DNA project such as the Nueva Galicia DNA project. https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=NuevaGaliciaDNA

I agree with Armando, for Y-DNA I would recommend testing 67 or 37 markers (preferably 67). Older tests of 12 or 25 may give too many matches that don't end up being close ones with the 67 test, and the 111 marker test may be more than needed, especially if you don't have too many 67-level matches.

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katy_brecht_quesada

9 years 7 months ago

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yeah test with either ancestry or my23andme(never tried 23andme but i heard good things about). i don't like ftdna. i transfered my mom's ancestrydna results to that website the the native and east asian percentages were weird and didn't match gedmatch or ancestry's percentage of those two.

so i;m not gonna bother transfering my aunt and grandpa's dna to that site.

I too used FTDNA for my mother's mtDNA (haplogroup C, Native American, Pre-Columbian). She is New Mexican Pueblo Indian (Piro-Manso-Tewa) with some Spanish ancestors. I only had the funds for the basic 12, but they have linked me up with other descendants in New Mexico. My husband, whose ancestors were from Jalisco turned out Haplogroup T1 Mesopotamian. FTDNA has found only one descendant in Texas who has not responded to my e-mails.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: joan@sullivangroup.org
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:51:13 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA tests recommendations
>
> I used FamilyTreeDNA and was happy with the results.
>

The main reason I say 23andme is better is because I have seen the results of people and my own family members that have used multiple companies such as 23andme, FamilyTreeDNA, Ancestry, and National Geographic Geno 2.0 and I have also seen the results when uploaded to www.gedmatch.com FamilyTreeDNA always under reports the Native American compared to the other companies. In order for you to see the difference of a 100% Native American in Gedmatch and FamilyTreeDNA compare the two following two pages of the Clovis Anzick child and click on the images.

http://www.fi.id.au/2014/11/clovis-anzick-ethnic-makeup-in-ftdna.html

http://www.fi.id.au/2014/10/new-clovis-anzick-1-kit-in-gedmatch.html

You will clearly see that too much of his Native American ancestry is assigned to Northeast Asian and Siberia. So that makes him look like 68% Native American instead of the 91.68% that he is assigned at Gedmatch. This happens with almost all Latin Americans. Almost all of us have at least a small amount of Native American DNA but it gets reported at a lower rate at FamilyTreeDNA.

Anybody that can get tested with 23andme, Ancestry, and FamilyTreeDNA should do that so they can see that FamilyTreeDNA is under reporting our Native American DNA.

Everyone should also upload to Gedmatch and use the Admixture (heritage) calculators to see that the Native American shows up at a higher amount there also.

The only way to know which company gives better results is for people to test with multiple companies and then compare the results for that single person. Then to repeat that with someone else and then another person. A pattern emerges in this process and that is the pattern I have seen.

I did my with 23 and me for 100 USD. They give you more information and
they use the new v4 chip. You can trasfer the information to
familytredna.com and you can enter the surname projects.

I have found 4 people that share the same territory and surnames as my
family tree.

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Emilie Garcia
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> I too used FTDNA for my mother's mtDNA (haplogroup C, Native American,
> Pre-Columbian). She is New Mexican Pueblo Indian (Piro-Manso-Tewa) with
> some Spanish ancestors. I only had the funds for the basic 12, but they
> have linked me up with other descendants in New Mexico. My husband, whose
> ancestors were from Jalisco turned out Haplogroup T1 Mesopotamian. FTDNA
> has found only one descendant in Texas who has not responded to my e-mails.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> > To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: joan@sullivangroup.org
> > Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:51:13 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA tests recommendations
> >
> > I used FamilyTreeDNA and was happy with the results.
> >
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23andme v2 and v4 files cannot be transferred to FamilyTreeDNA. Only the 23andme v3 file can be transferred. The Ancestry.com autosomal DNA file can be transferred.

https://www.familytreedna.com/AutosomalTransfer

We only accept the 23andMe V3 chip that was used on tests sold between November 2010 and approximately November 2013. There are a couple of ways to find out what chip was used for your test other than simply the timeframe. One is size; v3 chip files are about 7.83 MB where V2 and V4 chips are smaller. If you’re tech savvy, you can unzip the file and check chromosomes: Chromosome 1 for v3 starts at 82154 (rs4477212) where v4 starts at 734462 (rs12564807)and v2 starts with position 742429 (rs3094315).
http://dna-explained.com/2014/10/19/family-tree-dna-announces-free-auto…

I agree that 23andme gives more information and more detailed information than FamilyTreeDNA. When possible getting the autosomal tests at all three companies is the best.

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victorianonavarro (not verified)

9 years 7 months ago

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I have used and recommend Geno2.0 by National Geographic and FamilyFinder by FamilytreeDNA. The first one gives you mtDNA, Y-DNA (for males) and Neanderthal estimate on the same test, the second one lets you compare your sample with other people.
Regards,
VN

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Armando

9 years 7 months ago

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Hello Delia,

23andme is the best test to determine your ethnicities. It's much more accurate overall than the other companies.

I also used 23 and Me and was very satisfied but I would recommend if you have a brother to have him take the test too since you can only have the MTDNA test and that's mother to daughter only. I had my brother and my mothers brother both do the test so I got my MTDNA group A, native american,
my Dads surname Castanon haplogroup RIBI and my mother's paternal line surname Gutierrez haplogroup N.
good luck in your search.
Linda Castanon-Long

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