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POR EL MOMENTO NO TENGO ESA INFORMACIO, PERO EN CUANTO VUELVA AL ARCHIVO, BUSCARE SOBRE ELLOS, ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO, ESTAMOS EN CONTACTO, UN CORDIAL SALUDO, ATTE. LUPITA> From: general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: General Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:46:32 -0800> > Send General mailing list submissions to> general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://lists.nuestrosranchos.org/listinfo.cgi/general-nuestrosranchos.o…; > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> general-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> general-owner@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of General digest..."> > > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> DAILY DIGEST> ****************************************> > Today's Topics:> > 1. Map from Spanish archives (arturoramos)> 2. Download pics of Castas (Lester Alvarado)> 3. Hola lupita! Tambien yo solicito tu valiosa ayuda... (jalfonsohr)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:48:25 -0800 (PST)> From: arturoramos > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Map from Spanish archives> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Message-ID:> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > > I just posted a scan of a a 1760 map of the "Fronteras de Colotlan" that I obtained from Archivo General de Indias.> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16552> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 04:06:04 +0000> From: Lester Alvarado > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Download pics of Castas> To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Hi Joseph ,> > Is there any way possible to download the pics of the Castas . I've tried to download them to my memory stick but , no luck . Are we permitted to do so ? This coming Tuesday I will be attending the monthly meeting of the Sociedad de Genealogia de Monterrey and I opened my mouth and told Daniel Zambrano the current president that I was going to share them with the group . Please let me know if I can do this , and if I can how can I go about it .> > > Thanks a bunch ,> > Welester> _________________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_01…; > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 06:34:32 -0800 (PST)> From: jalfonsohr > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hola lupita! Tambien yo solicito tu> valiosa ayuda...> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Message-ID:> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed> > > Mi madre--Mar?a de los Angeles Romo Quezada. naci? en Encarnaci?n de D?az, jalisco, en 1914. Sus padres, Sim?n Romo Garcia, y su madre, mar?a de la Cruz Quezada Ramirez, ambos de Encarnaci?n de D?az, Jalisco. Me gustar?a saber m?s detalles de sus familias, ya que ignoro m?s detalles...podr?as auxiliarme?> Un afectuoso saludo.> Alfonso H. Romo> > > ------------------------------> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > End of General Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5> **************************************

haven't checked this out but the description sounded interesting:

1. Exploring the Early Americas [Macromedia Flash Player]
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/earlyamericas/

The Jay I. Kislak Collection at the Library of Congress contains over 3000

FamilySearch (Genealogical Society of Utah) microfilmed the 1930 Mexico Natl. Census in the Mexico Natl. Archives back in the 1960s. They filmed everything that the archives had, which unfortunately wasn't everything. As for Aguascalientes the municipios: Aguascalientes, Calvillo, and Jesus Maria were 'lost' at the time of the microfilming. FamilySearch has not gone back to the Natl. archives to determine if the 'lost' municipios were ever found. You may want to inquire with them to see.

AliceBB,

The reason why you do not see the 1930 Census for Aguas is because the census has not been scanned yet. If I remember correctly, I think that is presumed to be lost.
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To all the intrepid researchers at Nuestros Ranchos:

In searching through microfilm records, as I copy down the entries I find on
my ancestors and "might be related" persons, I strive to make these records

Hello Everyone!

I have been a member of El Ranchos since the summer but I have never written an Intro with a list of names and dates so I decided to do it and see if I have any luck and someone recognizes someone. Also I wanted to ask the group a couple of questions. I live in Canada so at my Family Centre they seem not to be able to help me out. Linda had answered an inquiry of mine of how to see civil records mentioning to ask the centre but they seem not to know. The civil records, Aguascalientes, Ojuelos, Jalisco, Pinos, Zacatecas, I would want to see have to do with Aurelio Martinez, my grandfather who was a widower and had a son. I am completely stumped, I can not find the marriage or the birth of the son. His dates are mentioned in the Martinez Davila names. I would be forever grateful if I get a break threw.

I've noticed (because several of you have noticed) that the website is
experiencing some problems. Hang in there and hopefully things will sort
themselves out. Tomorrow is Sunday so go out and experience the mild

Dear Sofia, You may probably note that the records you are looking through
are pretty consistent, in that they all probably don't have grandparents
listed for that period of time by that scribe. Its wonderful when they are

I have searched the Mexican 1930 Census for the town of Etzatlan in Jalisco, however, I have been unable to find it. Does anyone know if it was filmed? or included in another town's census?

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16503
RESEARCHING: Rodriquez-Vidaurri-Aguilera-Yniquez

Greetings to members of Nuestros Ranchos:

My name is Gilbert Keas [rhymes with Keys] and I live in Los Osos,

I'm hoping those of you who speak or understand Spanish better than I do can help me with this. I'm having problems with family relationships. This record is from Jerez Zacatecas.

I tried to post my gedcom to this site but it timed out so it's on Rootsweb.com complete with sources but with many approximate dates due to missing years in the records.

I am been researching family ancestors, my g-g-g-g-grandfather's name is Angel Arch from Sayula married Mercedes Gutierres in 1848, but I have not been able to find any decendents...
The Arch family lived in "Hacienda De la Canada Taxunaxtla, Jalisco

Pam /Alicia,

As a Jauregui I read your comments and I must say they tickled my funny bone a little. In that it is possible for one man to have spread himself so unselfishly, the probability is low . The church was omnipotent in those days and to allow a man to behave like that is hard to rationalize. Alicia, your relatives' claim may have some truth to it, but I think time has embellished the truth. I found the first Jauregui in the Nochistlan area was, Juan Francisco Jauregui, from San Sebastian, Guipouzcoa, Viscaya, Spain. He married Josefa Chavez de Siordia in Dec 1662 in Nochistlan. They had 10 children, 7 boys and 3 girls. They in turn had large families and by the fifth generation the Jaureguis in the region numbered several hundred. This could be why the oral history has gotten colorful. Yes, one man started the Jauregui line there but not by being a "Don Juan". I DON'T THINK.

Hi,

Someone recently joined who is researching surnames I am also researching.
Their message was in Spanish, so I hope they get the gist of this message.

I wanted to reply to them that I am also researching the Rivera and Martin

I too am researching the Jauregui family and am early in my search.

Here is what I know:
Domingo JAUREGUI was born ca 1902 in Nochistlán,
Zacatecas. The family story is that he came from
Basque Spain. Domingo married Maria LOMELI

Hi Alicia and Pam:

I was in Nochistlán last November and was lucky to find a book : "Nochistlán de Zacatecas". Cuatro siglos de su vida. By Cleotilde Evelia Quirarte. I found it at the church library.

Thank you for your help!

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Hello, my name is Judy Jauregui-Rodriguez, I had started doing my family tree research and when it came to records from Mexico I was having difficulty and found your research group. My deceased husband Pablo Jauregui-Romo was from Teocaltiche , Jalisco as well as his parents & grandparents. Here are the names of family members that I am doing research on. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

If you have any information about this please email this person
directly: Nancy Chavez golden6760@aol.com

I am looking for information about my great-great grandfather...who was
murdered by Pancho Villas' soldiers. My maiden name is Chavez. My

Hello Hector,

I noticed in your response to Linda that you have a lot of info on
Jerez. Would you please check your data to see if you have anyone
with the surnames "LIENDO" and/or "DE LA ROSA".......these are my

I wanted to let you know that I've updated my gedcom on Rootsweb.com. I tried putting it into the gedcom section on this site but it timed out, too large. To get in to my file the easiest way is my grandfathers name and dob. Epitacio Castanon 1894, once there you can go to the index to see the surnames I have in my records. The surnames are mainly from Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan with a few from Colima who married into families in Jalisco. I see so many of the same names and hyphenated names over and over again and have to think our ancestors traveled a lot more than we sometimes give them credit for! I have over 47,000 names and hope they are of use to some of you. If you find errors please let me know so I can make corrections. I do update periodically.

Mi nombre Eduardo Alberto Cardenas Gomez( 1966 ), vivo en la Ciudad de Guadalajara-

Un saludo a todos, el interes de ingresar a este sitio es complementar la investigacion que tenemos, sobre las familias Cardenas ( Tuxpan , Jalisco), Navarro ( Cd. Guzman ), Gomez ( Tenamxtlan ), Alatorre ( Tepatitlan ) Cabral ( Tepatitlan ).

My last posting where I listed names of ancestors marriage records for Guadalajara, I found out from my mother that she has their photos, so I will be able to add those to my album on Nuestros Ranchos, as well. She has a photo of Ysmael Martin del Campo and many others I had not known she had pictures of before.

Today, I caught a glimpse of Oprah Winfrey show where ancestry research has
been done for famous people of today.

Of particular note was watching the African American comedian, Chris Rock
when he was told that his ancestor was a slave, who became a high raking Union

I hope you all who requested this got an idea in my previous post how life and family was along time ago. I too, find it very awkward and confusing. Well the fact is there wasnt really a rulebook, it was more of a i dont think system is a good word, but it was a...i cant find the word, but system is close enough. Let us take the Camino and Vásquez families. The Caminos from Mariáno or his father Eúgenio. And the Vásquez from Pablo Básquez-Ruíz de Esparza. Mariáno had 13 children and Pablo had 8. Lets say, a María Camino married José Básquez. and Salvador Camino married Mariána Básquez. Each Camino or Básquez are siblings. María Camino's daughter Josefina Básquez would marry her cousin Pancho Camino, son of Salvador and Mariána. Each family at least married once or twice in thier own family. But never with their identical cousin, like if Salvador Camino and Celso Camino, children were two marry, it wouldnt take place. It had to be children of sibling of the opposite gender. Like Salvador and María Camino's children were able to marry. We think maybe this was dont because the same gender of parents would cause the children to deform? Im not sure either. Then their children started to marry within other family like the Robles, García and Rentería families. The other families also followed this system of opposite gender siblings. 30 years later we had Camino marrying a Camino and a Camino marrying a García, the Camino child of the first would married the other coples Camino child then Camino Camino...so on...Another reason why our family did this is because the main original pueblo of the Hacienda, was in the Valley, which is 20 miles from the capital of Huanusco. They