Solicitation for Assistance for Totatiche Historian/Genealogist

Last month I mentioned that I met with Esteban Valdes Salazar, "cronista" from Totatiche, Jalisco and genealogist who has published a number of very valuable books. He is in the midst of trying to publish a second edition of the now sold out Historia de Totatiche as well as a new book on the genealogy of the Pinedos and Ortegas of Totatiche.

He has transcribed a whole series of early land titles and is the only historian who has seen the old Fransican convent records from Colotlan from the 1600s. He is helping Samuel Sanchez get those filmed as we speak.

Surnames and use of "De"

Welcome to the wonderful world of genealogy! What I'm sharing may
sound very trying but I must tell you the longer you do genealogy
the more satisfaction you get when you work long and hard and your
family is reclaimed after going through many records. I found a
record I'd had for 3 years the key to taking my Gutierrez family
from 1750 in Jalisco to 1650 in Michoacan! At other times I can

New to Group/BORONDA

Hello,
I am new to the ranchos group. My potential link to the
target areas is my ancestor Jose(f) Manuel BORONDA. It
has been said that he was born in Jerez, in Guadalajara,
and in Spain. So far there is no proof of any of this.
He would have been born about 1750. It is documented that
he came to California in 1769. He married Maria Gertrudis
HIGUERA at Mission San Carlos in Monterey, California on

To add or not to add "DE" in a surname?

Yolanda:

I guess the answer to your question depends on the software that you are using. I use an online database called The Next Generation that allows you to enter the "DE" or "DE LOS" or "DE LA" in a seperate field from the main surname such that when you search or sort by surname these are not taken into account.

When I import the GEDCOM from this software into PAF, I get the same problem that you do... a bunch of people end up under the letter "D" and I forget to look for them there.

DNA testing advances

The public service chanel here in Everett, Chanel 9 has a show on the
genealogy search for Blacks to find thier genetic makeup. Since I have
traced 3 Mulato lines in 3 different states, Jalisco, Zacatecas and
Michoacan I was very interested in what they had to say. They shared
the fact that the Portuguese controlled the slave trade and that in
the time frame I'm looking at, mid 1600's the odds are the slaves were

AER is Archivos Españoles en Red

How does one sign up if one doesn't speak Spanish? Just walk me
through the words so I can sign up. In case you're wondering how I
can research in the Spanish language when I can't read it, I search
using my family names. When I get a hit, I make a copy and translate
it later. Simple, time consuming, and not very accurate. But it is
all I can do.

Linda

Ignorance is not Bliss

Dear Ranchos Members,   I thought I would share some of my musings and findings. Yesterday I called my sister-in law to share some information regarding one of our common ancestors going back 4 generations in Tlachichila, Zac. and also to ask a question about some Mexican History regarding this region. Last week while reading film # 0226731, Matrimonios de Nochistlan, years 1842-1847. Our ancestor, Mateo Ruiz de Esparza's first marriage to Maria, Florencia Gonzales in January 1845 states that he is from Jalpa Zac. but I noticed that within that time span there were many other marriages which showed that either the bride or the groom were from Jalpa and were new arrivals to Tlachichila, some for a few months and some a few years. It made me wonder why so many new arrivals from Jalpa. What made these people leave Jalpa Zac which is a larger town and come to Tlachichila which is so remote and isolated? and only has subsistence

Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Alicia--
 
I'm sorry for the deaths in your family, and I'm also sorry that you will not be able to attend.  If this meeting is a success, I'll try to arrange another one.  We'll keep you in mind.
 
Rosalinda


-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Sent: Feb 3, 2006 7:49 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Unable to attend Southern California Meeting

Vacation Trip from California to East Coast

Our vacation starts April 6th in Rocklin, CA, then we spend about 5-
7 days in Ogden, UT where we will meet with Rosalinda and visit the
FHL in SLC again. The 14th of April we take off by way of Hiway 80
and head back east to Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia. Before
we arrive back East, we plan on visiting friends in Chicago, Cousin
in Michigan, and a cyber cousin in Pittsburg. Those cities are

Confirm 1 seat for Ranchos meeting

This is to confirm my intent to come to the Feb. 25th Ranchos meeting @ 11:30. All I need now is where to come on that day.
 
Jose Luis Macias
"Zendean"


-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Feb 1, 2006 10:52 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] UPDATE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Help/Ayuda/Por Favor

as in the words of our new webmaster:

"we need people to play around with the site and give some feedback and
let us know if there are any problems with the way it functions."

go on there and just upload some files and then delete them and make a
folder and then delete it. Let's make sure the site works good.

have a look at: http://nuestrosranchos.org

let us know what you think. No rush but eventually say by the end of

CONVERTING PAF/ENGLISH TO PAF/SPANISH

First of all THANKS to all who responded to my question about using
DE in a surname... I'm sure other members new to genealogy as well as
those more seasoned in this "obsession" continue to learn from other
members. KUDOS.. TO THOSE WHO TAKE THE TIME AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO
SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCES.
I recently attended a genealogy meeting where they mentioned that
there was a PAF program in Spanish and I was wondering if I could

TO ADD OR NOT TO ADD "DE" IN A SURNAME?

HOW DO RANCHOS MEMBERS HANDLE THIS, IT HAS BECOME A CONFUSING DILEMA
FOR ME. I PUT IN ROBALCAVA AND FOR HIS DAUGHTER I FIND HER AS DE
ROBALCAVA....I LATER CAN'T FIND HER UNTIL I REMEMBER TO LOOK
UNDER "DE". I NEED SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU EXPERIENCED GENEALOGISTS.
MIXED-UP IN EL PASO YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ

Juan De La Rosa and Narcisa

Monica:

There are some interesting entries in the familysearch website for potential matches to the family you are looking for. The mother's surname does not match, but that is not as uncommon as you may think.

JUAN DE LA ROSA
Male
Marriages:
Spouse: NARCISA ACOSTA Family
Marriage: 28 OCT 1872 Fresnillo De Gonzalez Echeverria, Zacatecas, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

Southern California meeting-- Important Reminder!

The RSVP deadline (the 15th) is looming for the first Southern
California Ranchos Meeting. You still have an opportunity to
respond-- and please do so. I want the meeting to be a great
success. Some had responded months ago stating that they would like
to attend, but I haven't heard from them since. Maybe you never
mentioned that you would like to attend, but now you realize that
February 25th is doable.

UPDATE ON THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RANCHOS MEETING

Hi group! 

Here is an update on the upcoming Southern California Ranchos 
Meeting.  A kind member of the Ranchos group, Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes, 
has offered the use of her home as a meeting place.  The advantage of 
this is that we can have a calm, comfortable atmosphere to share our 
genealogies and ideas.  I'd like to thank Olivia for her generosity.