Films Now Available on Nuestros Ranchos

I have now added the film database to the new Nuestros Ranchos website.

The functionality is still in the works. Users cannot yet add films to the database themselves, but that functionality is on its way... I will try to get to it this weekend.

However, I wanted to get people to try the database as it stands now and give me some feedback.

You will notice that for the films where we have batch numbers, you can simply click on the IGI button and the entire contents of that film available on IGI will come up. You can then refine the search however you like, such as putting in a father's first name or a mother's last name, etc.

As Victor had mentioned, if you are searching on a batch specific basis you can basically enter as little information as you want... so if you have a rough idea of when and where someone was born or married you can search through a couple of batches with very little information and find the person even if the name is misspelled, etc.

Please give it a try and let me know what you think as well as what additional functionalities you would like from this film database. I cannot promise anything but I will try to meet your needs.

Decide! YahooRanchos Closing Soon!



Okay I just know that some of you are going to want to either try it
yourself or let one of us move you. The Yahoo Group is closing in
exactly two (2) weeks. After that time the group will be be closed to
email delivery and everyone's subscription will be set to "No Mail."
That means that to participate in the group you'll have to post to the
new group.



Make your decision today. If you want to try
yourself fine and you'll have a few more days to give it a try, but if
you want one of us to move you I would like to know now. just email me privately
at makas@nc.rr.com and say "move me." [See bottom of email for the info
I need if you want me to move you].



Please make your decision. (see bottom of email for that form letter
with the two choices)



so far these are the folks (33 out of 109 members) that have taken the
plunge and decided one way or the other. . .so if your name is not on
this list you need to send me a private
email at makas@nc.rr.com and make your decision:


03/31/2006---Ranchos Yahoo Closing

On the 31 March 2006 the Ranchos Yahoo group will cease to function as a
group.

At this point we have roughly 40%-50% of the group members moved over
(this is not good news).

So after that date any messages you post to the email address
(ranchos@yahoogroups.com) will not work

After 31 March 2006 all messages to the Ranchos group need to go through
the Nuestros Ranchos website email distribution lists:

research@nuestrosranchos.org (for
messages strictly related to genealogical questions and inquiries)

general@nuestrosranchos.org (for
messages of a historical general nature or of the culture of the region)

announce@nuestrosranchos.org (for
announcements or messages related to events of interest to group members)

Here are some great instructions by Arturo that can be found at the website:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819

Instructions for transition of account from YahooGroups

Please Do NOT create a new account. Your account is already set up with
your YahooGroups userid but you will have to request a new password in
order to log in. The new password will be sent to the email registerd on
your YahooGroups account and once you receive your password you can log
and change it to whatever you like. In order to do this:

1. From the main page, click on "Request New Password" just below
the login area.
2. Enter your YahooGroups username or the email address registered on
YahooGroups ranchos.
3. Click on e-mail new password.
4. You will receive an email with your new password.
5. Log on with your YahooGroups username and the password received in
the email.
6. Click on "My account" (Second or third sidebar menu item)
7. Click on the "Edit" tab and enter new password (in both fields
provided) and click submit.
8. Review other information in the Account Settings category. Change
your language, time zone, etc. as necessary. Please do NOT change
your email address. During the transition, the email addresses
registered on this site and on YahooGroups must match or messages
will be rejected by one site or another. This restriction will be
lifted once the transition is complete.
9. Review the information in the Personal Information category. Enter
your name, location and geographic areas and surnames of research.
10. Review the Mailing Lists settings, and subscribe to the mailing
lists per the instructions below. This is very important. If you
do not sign up for the mailing lists, any messages that you post
will not get distributed to the group!

Instructions for signing up for the mailing lists is as follows:

1. Click on the mailing lists menu option on the right hand menu or
click on the mailing lists menu item when editing your account in
step 8 above.
2. Click on the type of subscription you would like for each of the
three mailing lists. You must initially subscribe to receiving all
email or daily digests. Once you have gone confirmed your
subscription (next step) you can change back your settings to "No
Email" which allows you to send messages to the list but not
receive any messages from the list, i.e. you will be able to read
messages only by going onto the website.
3. You will receive a message asking for confirmation of your email
address for each of the mailing lists to which you subscribe. If
you sign up for all three, you will receive three separate
messages. Simply reply to each message to confirm your subscription.
4. Once you have registered for a list, the messages that you post
will get distributed to the group. You can post in any of the
three Forums or via email to any one of the three lists and the
messages will automatically get posted to the website and get
distributed to those signed up for the new Nuestros Ranchos list
as well as the old YahooGroups list. The posting addresses are
general@nuestrosranchos.org, research@nuestrosranchos.org, or
announce@nuestrosranchos.org.

For instructions on navigating and posting content click here
.

====================

If anyone has any problems whatsoever email me Privately at
makas@nc.rr.com and I'll work with you to get moved over to the new group.

thanks,

joseph

An interesting link (in Spanish) with some backgroud about Nueva Galicia

Recently there's been some discussion about Nueva Galicia and whether the group should admit topics other than those related to Jal., Zac. & Ags. (which I think we already do anyway) so I thought this was interesting because it shows some illustrations of what originally was considered Nueva Galicia.

nayarita.com

Saludos,
Victor

what does abuelos seigneron ... mean?

what does the phrase "Abuelos seigneron fueron padrinos ..." mean in a baptism document. Are they both abuelos and padrinos? I would have attached the document, but I don't see a way of doing that. With the email system it was easy to do. Well, that's progress.

And thanks for the discussion on wildcards. It has really helped.By the way, I have a marriage document where the bride's father is no conocido, but later he is listed as abuelo on the baptism of one of the children. There is always hope.

George

New poll for ranchos

Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
ranchos group:

Nueva Galicia: Would Opening the Membership up to All of
Nueva Galicia adversly affect your membership in the Ranchos
group? [note: This is not a vote to change but a poll to get
an understanding of how you all feel about this subject].

o Yes, Please don't do it
o Somewhat, but Whatever the majority decides
o Si y No
o Quien Sabe: Where is Nueva Galicia Anyway?
o NO! Absolutely Not: Where have you been? Open the doors to all of NG!!!

To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/surveys?id=1927268

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

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Please move me

I guess you'll have to move me. I'm still on the road (Florida now)
and won't be returning to Wisconsin for another couple of weeks. I'm
in an RV and don't always get a good landline connection or wifi. I
would appreciate the help.

Linda Romero

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List of people moved to new list

I thought I had moved myself to the new list but my name isn't on the
list. Did I not complete the move, do it correctly, or was I sleep-
computing?

Linda Romero

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SLC Trip in October



Do folks have an idea who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?



Josie has worked hard to get you information and it would be great if
you gave that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I
for one will not be going as much as I would like to go.



If you think you might be going there is the matter of choosing a topic
for Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of
the seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
nothing more than the Notario Records and how to get
a little better handle on how to research them.



So what do you all think?



joseph


Poll results for ranchos

The following ranchos poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:

POLL QUESTION: From time to time people not from our geographical area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:

[[[[[maybe there is a misunderstanding. we are focused on the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes. I don't understand why you would be interested in this group? Now if you "THINK" that you might have ties to this area then I'll subscribe you for a 1 year temporary membership that we'll reconsider renewing next year depending on how much you've discovered about your Jalisco, Zacatecas and/or Aguascalientes roots or should I say tried to discover.
is this what you'd like to do?]]]]]

Do you agree with this? Or should I make special exceptions for those "high quality" researchers that express interest in the group?

I'm torn between being "fair" to all and the possible benefit to "all" from letting a top researcher into the group.

what do you all think?

So far all of our polls have been invalid for lack of participation. IF this one is to be valid I'll need 50% of you to weigh in so I can tip the balance. It'd be best if 52% of you weighed in on one side so my vote wouldn't be the deciding factor.

joseph

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Be Fair to all and restrict membership, 6 votes, 23.08%
- Don't restrict we can learn a lot from others, 7 votes, 26.92%
- Do like you're doing, 13 votes, 50.00%
- hijola, good question holmes!, 0 votes, 0.00%

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Old Move--Pizzaro Account

I just watched an old move about Pizzaro and Adawalpa that seems to
roughly follow historical accounts:

"The Royal Hunt of the Sun"

old but okay,

joseph

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Sharing History - 1968 Event - East LA - HBO Special

Hi Group, just sharing some info on an HBO special if
you are interested. I grew up during the 60's and
70's and remember this event. In my teen years I was
a little bit of an activist and we had somewhat of
this same type of event where kids walked-out of
school, except we did this on Sept. 16th.

It premiered this evening but will be on again March
21st 9:00 p.m., just check your HBO listing for the
schedule.

Carol

From HBO films:

"A film with a powerful message that resonates 38
years after the events it depicts occurred, Walkout is
the stirring true story of the Chicano students of
East LA, who in 1968 staged several dramatic walkouts
in their high schools to protest academic prejudice
and dire school conditions. Aided by a popular and
progressive young teacher, Sal Castro, Paula
Crisostomo and a group of young Chicano activists
battle parents, teachers, bureaucrats, the police and
public opinion to make their point. Along the way, the
students learn profound lessons about embracing their
own identity and standing up for what they believe in.
Set in 1968, a tumultuous year that shook America to
its foundation, Walkout is a vivid reminder that
people can change the world."

This is the link:

http://www.hbo.com/films/walkout

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George Ryskamp in Riverside, California on March 18

I know this is very late notice -- unless someone already posted the
information and I just missed it.

There will be a Hispanic Family History Seminar at the 5900 Grand Avenue,
Riverside, on Saturday, March 18, 2006.

Featured presenters will include Dr. George Ryskamp of the BYU Center for
Family History and Genealogy and graduate students from the center.

The seminar will begin at 9:30 a.m. and will conclude at 5 p.m. Lunch will
be served. A donation of $5 per person is requested.

Classes will include "How to Begin," "How to Use Civil and Parish
Registers," Immigration Records," and "Spanish, Portuguese, and Latin
American Archives."

Additional classes are "Helping Latin Americans in the Fmaily History
Center," "How to Find the Location of Your Ancestors and Their Records," and
"How to Use the Personal Ancestral File."

Courses will be available in English and Spanish.

~Deena Ortiz~
drortiz@charter.net (new address)

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poll

I belong to many different forums and groups for many different names
and areas. If I could find a group which specialized in Jalisco,
Guadalahara, Tepatitlan de Morelos I would be happy. I'm selfish.
I'm looking in this area. I only want to find information about this
area in this group. I belong to other Mexican research groups and
only want information about those areas from them. So I guess you
could put my vote down to keep it more localized. A broad Mexican
research forum already exists. I'll look there when I need to
broaden my research.

I like it the way it is.

Linda

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New Archaeology Material Added to Nuestra Familia Unida Podcast

Great stuff about the Maya:

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/podcast/archeology.html

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Films Now Available on Nuestros Ranchos

I have now added the film database to the new Nuestros Ranchos website.

The functionality is still in the works. Users cannot yet add films to the database themselves, but that functionality is on its way... I will try to get to it this weekend.

However, I wanted to get people to try the database as it stands now and give me some feedback.

You will notice that for the films where we have batch numbers, you can simply click on the IGI button and the entire contents of that film available on IGI will come up. You can then refine the search however you like, such as putting in a father's first name or a mother's last name, etc.

As Victor had mentioned, if you are searching on a batch specific basis you can basically enter as little information as you want... so if you have a rough idea of when and where someone was born or married you can search through a couple of batches with very little information and find the person even if the name is misspelled, etc.

Please give it a try and let me know what you think as well as what additional functionalities you would like from this film database. I cannot promise anything but I will try to meet your needs.

Films Database: Fabulous!!!

Joseph:

I see it is 3 am... I have not yet gone to sleep since I do not work
tomorrow and usually stay up late.

What are you doing up so early/late? Did you just wake up?

What do you think of the film functionality and the tweaking with the
text colors that I did?

======================

wow how did you do this? this is a great tool. If we can get the other
films tied into this that would be great, then again it must be a
tremendous amount of work.

This is a fabulous feature. Everyone should have a look at the "films"
database at the top of the Nuestros Ranchos website.

Thanks Arturo, you are making the group much much better than what it
was before. Thanks for all your effort on our behalf.

joseph

ps: the colors are hmmm, okay, with one tiny exception that wouldn't
matter if it never gets changed. the color difference here is so small
that members might not notice this is a hyperlink:

Filename/Title Size
MacedonioLunaLopez.rtf
62.85 KB
PaulaGonzalezTorre.rtf
99.72 KB

Posted in Members' Genealogy
34 reads

Submitted by euler2luna on 11
March, 2006 - 7:11pm.

[[[[[[[[[[NOTE: Actually it looks different here than on the site, but
the euler2luna blends right in with the "Submitted by. . ." color.
Strictly backburner stuff]]]]]]]]]]]

Bibliography for 16th Century New Galicia

Joseph et al:

Yes, the first two documents are at the Library of Congress. I have had a chance to look at them and have been able to build some pretty complex genealogies from the information in those volumes for a groups of families (Escobedos and Covarrubias) going back to the 1400s. They actually have a great deal of indigenous names in them as well...

=====================
From: Joseph Puentes
Date: Tue Mar 14 14:14:39 CST 2006
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bibliography for 16th Century New Galicia

Wow Arturo thanks, There appears to be a wealth of bibliographical
references in this document. Enough to keep someone busy for awhile.

are the first two volumes at the Library of Congress?

joseph

Films Database: Fabulous!!!

Joseph:

I see it is 3 am... I have not yet gone to sleep since I do not work
tomorrow and usually stay up late.

What are you doing up so early/late? Did you just wake up?

What do you think of the film functionality and the tweaking with the
text colors that I did?

======================

wow how did you do this? this is a great tool. If we can get the other
films tied into this that would be great, then again it must be a
tremendous amount of work.

This is a fabulous feature. Everyone should have a look at the "films"
database at the top of the Nuestros Ranchos website.

Thanks Arturo, you are making the group much much better than what it
was before. Thanks for all your effort on our behalf.

joseph

ps: the colors are hmmm, okay, with one tiny exception that wouldn't
matter if it never gets changed. the color difference here is so small
that members might not notice this is a hyperlink:

Filename/Title Size
MacedonioLunaLopez.rtf
62.85 KB
PaulaGonzalezTorre.rtf
99.72 KB

Posted in Members' Genealogy
34 reads

Submitted by euler2luna on 11
March, 2006 - 7:11pm.

[[[[[[[[[[NOTE: Actually it looks different here than on the site, but
the euler2luna blends right in with the "Submitted by. . ." color.
Strictly backburner stuff]]]]]]]]]]]

Birria - Thanks

I want to thank you Francisco, Arturo, Esperanza, and Elvira Z for your
suggestions about Birria. I may have to have a trial run. Most of my
guests will be of the 'gringo' persuasion (and some members of my
family are verrry picky about what they eat - what's a mother to do??).
Thanks you so much for insights and ideas.

Natalie in VA

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Conversion of Microfilms to Digital Records at SLC

For your information, if you haven't read the latest on this project, I'm forwarding a message posted yesterday at the genealogia.org.mx group:

On 3/16/06, Administrador - Genealogia.org.mx wrote:

Unlocking the Vault: Conversion to Digital Records is Progressing
By Brittany Karford, Church Magazines
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,40-1-3384-9,00.html

Members may not have to wonder what lies behind the 14-ton vault door
at the Church's Granite Mountain Vault Records (GMVR) facility for much
longer. In as little as 10 years, much of its genealogical collection
may be at their fingertips.

The billions of names preserved on microfilmed records at the vault are
being converted to digital images that can eventually be viewed online
at FamilySearch.org and ultimately searched in and linked to an online
index. The process of digitizing the microfilm is now faster than ever
through a "bleeding edge" technology system called FamilySearch™
Scanning.

"I call it unlocking the vault," says Heath Nielson, the
program's lead software engineer. "I cannot wait for the day when
accessibility to these records becomes available to all."

When that day comes, the records will be available to everyone, both
Latter-day Saints and the public-"God's children
everywhere"-according to the project team. And for those
researching family history under either title, it will mean no more
microfilm, and no more eyes strained from looking at film under dim
light.

The vision, says Brent Thompson, director of records preservation, is
that in the future members in Lima, Peru, who now wait up to six or
eight weeks for microfilm, will be able to go to a family history
center or anywhere with Internet access and look at records with the
click of a button.

It is a giant first step toward putting most of the family history
collection of the GMRV online. Online images and indexes of birth,
marriage, and death records from all over the world may altogether
change how family history work is done. Currently, only a minority of
members pursue family history work, but the accessibility enabled
through FamilySearch Scanning will make it simple for anyone with
Internet access to get involved.

Brother Thompson believes they will, though at first he didn't dream
digitizing the collection would be possible.

"I couldn't imagine it possible in my lifetime," he says. "I
couldn't imagine it possible in my children's lifetime."

At the rate they were going prior to the FamilySearch Scanning
technology, it was estimated that it would take 120 years to convert
applicable films to digital. That same projection is now less than 30
years, perhaps sooner with planned expansions of additional scanners.
The team that couldn't fathom living to see the end result will now be
the team that will someday complete the digitizing process.

So how does it work? One vault worker loads rolls of film into a pod of
scanners and presses "Go". The scanner then takes one comprehensive
video picture and transfers that continuous file to another computer,
where an application analyzes the contrast of the ribbon for quality
and splits each frame into individual JPEGs (a digital file of an
image). To finish, a good pair of eyes reviews the job and processes
the newly created JPEGs. The digital images are then readied for use by
the Church's online indexing program, where volunteers over time will
help extract the birth, marriage, and death information from the images
to create free searchable indexes online (like the 1880 U.S., 1880
Canada, and 1881 British Censuses currently found at FamilySearch.org).

This is a great improvement over the process used just a little more
than a year ago, where one person had to be present throughout the
entire process, manually scrutinizing each frame. Through three to four
feet of film, one technician would adjust the light and contrast with
the film density changes, watching every image come across the screen
and cutting it out. "We thought, 'How can we apply computer
technology to save these poor people's eyes?' " explains Derek
Dobson, product manager. "And how can we more quickly convert these
microfilms to digital images so people can access them more readily on
the Internet?"

Enter Heath Nielson and a team of engineers. Not only does the computer
system they developed speed the process up, but by taking the frames on
a continuous file, it retains the contextual information of each slide
as a piece of a whole.

"In the computer, it's not piecemeal. You can look at a single
frame next to its neighbors, and it tells you something about it,"
Brother Nielson says. Also, with the manual process there was no way of
knowing if they had missed an image, something that is not a factor
with the continuous file.

Though the technology is not entirely novel, their ability to act and
the Church's ability to execute and implement the technology for its
intended purposes makes them pioneers in the field. Yet setting the
program into motion has not been without its glitches.

"It's something I still feel fervently about," Brother Nielson
says. "I knew that if this was something we needed to do, there would
be a way provided." And there was. In the hard and frustrating times,
he said they would find just what mechanism they needed and receive
help from specific individuals just when they needed it-one step at a
time.

T-Time (Transition)



Over 50% of the members have retrieved their
passwords. Great. At the end
of March
we will be setting everyone's Yahoo
subscription to "No
Mail." This means that if you want to communicate with the group you'll
need to send your email to one of the email lists on the new site,
REMEMBER you need to subscribe to the email lists by logging in and
clicking on "mailing lists" from the right-hand menu. I would
strongly suggest that the other 50% of you go in and get your http://nuestrosranchos.org
password and
subscribe to the 3 email lists by clicking “mailing lists” on the right-hand
menu. [Note: You cannot
send messages to the new lists unless you have subscribed to them.  You
must
also remember that when
you subscribe to the lists the site will generate a confirmation email
for each
list. When you receive the confirmation email just reply to it to
complete the
confirmation process].

As
a reminder, the directions for the new lists are as follows:

research@nuestrosranchos.org
(for
messages strictly related to genealogical questions and inquiries)

general@nuestrosranchos.org
(for messages of a historical general nature or of the culture of the
region)

announce@nuestrosranchos.org
(for announcements or messages related to events of interest to group
members)

===================================

Mas
de cincuenta por ciento
de los integrantes del grupo han obtenido sus contraseñas del nuevo
sitio.  ¡Espectacular! 
Al fin de marzo vamos a
cambiar las suscripciones de todos en Yahoo para que ya
no reciban correos electrónicos de esa lista.  Así que si quieren
seguir comunicándose
con el grupo tendrán que enviar sus mensajes a una de las listas del
nuevo
sitio.  Les sugiero a los que están en el otro cincuenta por ciento que
vayan y
obtengan sus contraseñas a http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
y se subscriban a las tres nuevas listas de correo electrónico
seleccionando “mailing
lists” del menú a la derecha.  [Advertencia: No se pueden mandar
mensajes
a las nuevas listas si no se han suscrito a las listas.  También toca
recordar
que cuando se subscriban a las listas, el sitio les mandará un correo
electrónico para cada lista. Cuando reciban este correo, simplemente
respondan
para terminar el proceso de confirmación]

Para
recordarles, las
direcciones de las nuevas listas son las siguientes:

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Cool Site: Nueva Galicia



I was googling around looking for info on the boundaries of Nueva
Galicia and came upon this site that I thought some would appreciate:



http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/bevans/



click on some of the links for some nice photographs. Might find the
church your relatives were baptized in.



joseph



ps: as I'm looking I am seeing repeated reference to S. Sinaloa. . .is
this considered part of Nueva Galicia also?



Nueva Galicia (nwā`vä gälē`syä),
Spanish colonial administrative region, W Mexico, comprising roughly
the present states of Jalisco and Nayarit with S Sinaloa. Conquered
(1529–31) by Nuño de Guzmán Guzmán, Nuño de (n`nyō thā g

and later governed by Francisco Vásquez de Coronado, the
territory was the scene of the Mixtón War  in
1541. In 1548 it was given its own audiencia at Guadalajara. Nominally
subject to the viceroy of New Spain, it was essentially a separate
administration controlled from Spain, and it came to be known after the
creation (1563) of a presidential office of its own as the presidency
of Nueva Galicia. Its independent character, however, declined as in
the colonial era authority was more and more centralized in Mexico City.



some other related sites:



http://omega.ilce.edu.mx:3000/sites/estados/libros/nayarit/html/sec_23.html

http://omega.ilce.edu.mx:3000/sites/estados/libros/nayarit/html/sec_32.html



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Also I saw a reference to San Luis Potosi being included??????



http://instructional1.calstatela.edu/bevans/Art454L-49-Jalisco/F00001.html




Something that affects All us genealogists

Elvira and Josie sent me this email. I thought I'd pass it onto the
group. We touched this subject awhile back and I wish there was someway
we could see how much progress they are making. I'd also love to know
when they will have Jalisco and Zacatecas and Aguascalientes done!



I know there is a search engine for the things they have finished. Have
a look and check it every so often to see if they have updates:



http://www.lib.byu.edu/fhc/ [try putting Mexico into the search engine.
. .toward the end of the 57 hits you get some New Mexico families]



joseph





-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Fw: [MEX-INDIAN] Something that affects All us genealogists
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:03:19 -0700
From: elviraz <elviraz@elpasonet.net>
To: Joseph Puentes <makas@nc.rr.com>




For your information in case you havent' received it yet. 

Elvira