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Anyone doing research in Sayula, Jalisco, Mexico. 
Please contact me.  I want to share information.

Thank You,
Angel R. Cervantes

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This week-end Rich and I take off for a long vacation traveling from 
Utah, to Arizona and finally coming home by way of Long Beach.  I 
checked the membership profiles of the Ranchos Group and hoped to e-
mail only those members in these areas.  But I find most of the 
profiles are incomplete so I am sending it to all members.  
Our travel plans are:

Ogden, SLC area from Aug 11th - Aug 25th.
Phoenix, Tucson area Aug 26th - Sept 1st.
Ogden, SLC area Sept 2nd - Sept 13th,
Rocklin CA home Sept 15th - Sept 18th
So. Utah, Cedar City area Sept 20th - 24th
Long Beach Sept 15th- Sept 29th.
then home to Rocklin CA,  

If any of you are in our path of travel, then please contact us.  
Rosalinda and Angie, let's meet at Denny's Restaurant on Atlantic in 
Long Beach on Sept 26th, Friday evening. I called Denny's and they 
have 2 small meeting rooms available. Let us know if this works for 
you.   Anyone else in that area, please contact us.

In Arizona, we plan on visiting the Special Collection

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Hi
I am researching my son's ancestors from Colotlan, Jalsico, Mexico. 
I have hyphen the last names of his ancestors so it would be easier 
to indentity the last names and middle names. Hope this is not a 
problem.  If there is a error, please let me know.  

His grandparents
Luis Huizar-Gaeta born Colotlan, Jalsico, Mexico
died January 2000.
and 
Maria Guadalupe Munoz-Gaeta from Tulimic, Colotlan, Jalsico, Mexico
about 1993 in Tulimic, Colotlan, Jalsico, Mexico

Luis Huizar-Gaeta
Parents: 
Fermin Huizar-Rodriguez and Valentina Gaeta-Carrillo
G-Parents: 
Canuto Huizar-Perez (ancestors unknown) and Maria Marcadia de 
Rodriguez-Hernandez
GG-Parents:
Gabino Rodriguez-Guillermo and Marta Hernandez (ancestors unknown)

Maria Guadalupe Munoz-Gaeta
Parents: 
Jesus Munoz (ancestors unknown) and Maria Soledad Gaeta-Lopez
G-Parents: Andres Gaeta and Maria Cruz Lopez (ancestors unknown)


I was told that Valentina Gaeta-Carrillo and Maria Soledad Gaeta-
Lopez was related.
I would like to find

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Some of you might be wondering how to use your regular email address
instead of the Yahoo email address you got when you signed up.

So if you want to change your place where you receive your emails here
how to do it:

go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/

at the top right click on "Sign In"

now enter your ID and Password

now you should be successfully logged in [you'll know that because it
will not say "Welcome Guest" but say "Welcome You" at the left top]. . .

. . .now that you are successfully logged in click on Account Info at
the top right

at this point it might ask for your Password agaiin. . . .don't argue
just give it to them

Under "Member Information" click on "Edit"

on this page where it says Alternate Email 1 (Primary) put your email
address of choice

click on "Finished" when you are finished.

thats it. see how easy.

any questions??? ask me via private email.

joseph    makas@...

I've just entered my films that I have at my local Family History Center
on permanent hold. Some are ordered and should be here soon. If anyone
need a "specific" look up I'd be glad to do it unless you need it in a
hurry.

Just send me the specific date and who your are trying to find and I'll
do my best. . .sorry I can't just scroll through the film looking for
people, I barely have enough time to do this on a limited basis for myself.

thanks,

joseph

ps: now if anyone else would like to do this just send me your list of
films and I'll make up a folder for you in the files section.

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OK have new film...if any one is interested in my looking for someone let me know

registros parroquiales, 1726-1979

Bautismos 1927-1932

bautismos DE hijos naturales 1879-1906

both of these are on # 1164028 and I still have...

Bautismos 1880-1890

#1164023

these are of Totatiche, Jalisco

Stella

This too shall pass.............

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1) go to http://www.familysearch.org



2) click on "Search"



the window will look like this:

	Father Last Name *First Name *Last Name Mother Last Name    Spouse Last Name

http://www.newmexicogenealogy.org/wasnoname.htm#Language

http://www.fsu.edu/~guadalaj/Censuses_History_1600-1820.htm

Hello Ranchos group,



For many years I have been stuck at a impassable dead end.  I pray that someone out there could possibly help me out.



It all began when I discovered the marriage record of two of my ancestors.  Joseph Miguel Zaldivar (Saldivar) married María de los Dolores Jáuregui, in Nochistlán, Zacatecas, on 7 April 1777.  The marriage document said that Joseph Miguel Saldivar was "hijo legítimo de Xavier Saldivar y de María Josepha González."  Ma. de los Dolores Jáuregui was "hija legítima de Joseph Francisco de Jáuregui y de María Josepha Jiménez."  My Jáuregui line is well documented, and I have had no major problems there.



The problem is with Xavier Saldivar and María Josepha González.  I have found a few baptisms of their children in Jalostotitlán: Isidro Bonifacio Saldivar, bap. 28 May 1752; Segundo Pastor Saldivar, bap. 21 April 1754; María de los Dolores Saldivar, bap. 09 March 1760; and Bernardino Sinesio Saldivar, bap. 07 June 1761.  But no marriage.



I have seen Xa

A very big thank you to Steven Hernandez for pointing us in the
direction of this website:

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/enciclo.html

the actual home page is: http://www.e-local.gob.mx/

there is a lot of info on Mexico on this site but Zacatecas and
Aguascalientes doesn't seem to be represented on the list of states with
write-ups:

for Jalisco:
http://www.e-local.gob.mx/enciclo/jalisco/

then click on Municipios for a list.

for Chihuahua:
http://www.e-local.gob.mx/enciclo/chihuahua/index.html

then click on Municipios for a list.

Hello everyone,



I thought I should take some time to respond to some queries regarding whether or not Jamay, Jalisco, actually exists or if it has been abandoned.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  Jamay is a small but nice town overlooking Lake Chapala.  It is between Ocotlán and La Barca along the Carretera Guadalajara-México,D.F.  I have been there a few times.  I remember climbing the steps with my mom, dad, brothers, aunt, and my "Abuelita Lupe" up to the church of Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe on top of a hill when I was 8 years old.  I pass by there all the time whenever I go visit my family in Ocotlán.  My mom was born in the town of Cuitzeo, just next door to Ocotlán (on the other side of the river).  My grandfather was born in "El Xoconoxtle" northeast of Ocotlán.  Both my mom and her dad were baptized in the parish church in Ocotlán.  My mom has many fond memories of Ocotlán, Cuitzeo, Jamay, and La Barca where she and my grandparents visited frequently, and sometimes

http://www.expedia.com  is a good place for Mexican maps.

Also another good place for maps is in the "links" section.

go to the home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos

on the left side of the page is a bunch of areas of the group with
additional information.

look at the "files" look at the "links" look at the fotos "just me and
the wife in this area"

click on links

click on the bottom link called "Maps of Mexico"

go down the page to where it says "state maps"

scroll down to Jalisco

click on the map section that has the large lake on it.

look next to Ocolotlan and you'll find Jamay.

joseph

ps: if anyone at all is having trouble accessing the different links and
areas of the group let me know. We'll work on it together if you like.

J. Macias wrote:

Friends; I keep seeing locations that are not Jalisco and presume
that those locations are very close to Jalisco. I can't find "Jamay"
Jalisco on a map, was it town that is now abandoned? I wonder, where
is

Angel,
I did a search at www.google.com; Typed in "General Pedro Zamora" and 
received two results.
Below are the results:

yucatan - [ Translate this page ]
... escribela don... Prólogo por el general Pedro Zamora Castellanos, 
Guatemala,
[Nacional], 1933, xxv + 516 pp. (Biblioteca "Goathemala ... 
www.unam.mx/ceiich/bibliografias/yucatan.html - 101k - Cached - Similar pages 

Militares y Militarismo - Ejército chileno en el siglo XIX: ... - [ Translate 
this page ]
... Al respecto, véase al general Pedro Zamora Castellanos, Vida militar de 
Centro
América, Guatemala, 1924. [14] Ibíd, vol. 409. [15] Memoria..., op. ... 
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7109/eje3.html - 67k - 

The contents in the following website
      http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7109/carlos.html

had the following information:

[13] Chile no fue el único caso de cooperación militar con Francia en la 
región. En el siglo XIX también hubo una fuerte influencia castrense gala en 
Colombia y El Salvador. Al

This site has a great map of Lake Chapala and its surrounding towns
including Jamay.
http://www.travel-hotels-mexico.com/jalisco-hotels/jamay-hotels-1.htm

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Does any one know about a General named Pedro Zamora? 
He was a rebel General that fought with Emiliano
Zapata in the southern part of Mexico.  I would
appreciate any information that any one has on this
individual.

Thank You,
Angel R. Cervantes

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  Friends;  I keep seeing locations that are not Jalisco and presume 
that those locations are very close to Jalisco. I can't find "Jamay" 
Jalisco on a map, was it town that is now abandoned? I wonder, where 
is Rancho San Agustin ?  How close are La Barca to Guadalagara ?

  The reason that I asked was because my Great-grandfather (Estavan 
Ramirez)was born in Portezuelo, Jalisco , married my Great-
grandmother (Alvina Navaro)Born in San Agustin, Jalisco. My mom said 
that Estevan was a french soldier that changed his name from Dubois 
to Ramirez. He met and married Alvina(the foreman's daughter)while in 
hiding at San Agostin.  My mother,Julia Ramirez was born to Estevan 
and Alvina's son Modesto Ramirez, in Guadalajara on 22 May 1908. My 
mother said that the records of my great-grandfather, Estevan are 
kept by a lady in "Chapulapec". I think there is a famous place 
called Chapultepec, but is it in Jalisco ? Is there a place in 
Jalisco by the same name ?How would a person check