I want to look up "Angon" in the Zacatecas or Jalisco area years 1600 - 1750's.
To see if any other people with ties to Angon's had done more research than I did and have other information that I can use. I wanted to see "Maria De Angon" on this list but when I click on it, it won't let me see any more information since I have to pay a membership fee.
Thank you very much for the detailed information on how the original rancho
de Joan de Angon (1633) became Estancia Rio Chico in 1681 and finally
changed to Hacienda Santa Rosa. I presently do not have any pictures of Rio
Chico/Hacienda Santa Rosa. I researched a location for a Rio Chico and
found it to be about 37 km (23 miles) from Teocaltiche. This location is
significant to me because it suggests that a child could be born in Rio
Chico and baptized in Teocaltiche. This is the pattern that my ancestors
followed. In 1752 Juana Maria Lozano Diaz was born in Rio Chico and
baptized in Teocaltiche. She was the daughter of Juan Miguel Lozano
(generation 9) and Lorensa Diaz de Sandi. Juan Miguel is also the father of
Rafael Lozano (gen. 8, b. abt. 1740), who married Petra Aguilar. Rafael had
a son also named Juan Miguel (gen. 7, b. abt. 1765), who married Maria
Tejeda about 1799. One of their sons is Domingo Lozano (gen. 6, b. 1816)
who married Paula Becerra in 1839. His oldest child was Eugenio Lozano
(gen. 5) who was born 17 Nov 1841 in Rio Chico. Eugenio left Teocaltiche
and went north to El Paso, Texas. He is my great-great grandfather.
I have to look up the church records for those ancestors between Eugenio and
Juana Maria Lozano Diaz, to see if there is continuity in their being born
in Rio Chico. If Eugenio was born there, your information suggests that it
may be another Rio Chico since it is not listed as Santa Rosa. Thank you
again for your valuable input, I will continue this research and keep
everyone posted.
While researching the ancestry of my fifth great-grandmother Lorenza de Aguilar y García de Alba (born 1740 in Cocula, Jalisco), I discovered that she descended through her maternal line from Francisco García de Alba, who in 1563, was granted land in Ayutla, Jalisco by the second Viceroy of New Spain. According to Jesús Amaya Topete, historian of Ameca, the García de Alba family "flooded" places such as Ahualulco, Ameca, Autlán, Ejutla, and Tecolotlán and Cocula as well. Francisco García de Alba's great-grandson of the same name married Casilda de Ortega Maldonado, who was related to the Topete family of Ameca.
Does anyone also descend from this family?
I'm also trying to look for the book "Ameca, protofundación mexicana", which is the brilliant work of Jesús Amaya Topete, and which contains more information on this family. Does anyone know where I could buy it from?
Juliana Francisca Isabel was the youngest daughter of the Conde Don Fernando De La Campa Y Cos of the Hacienda San Mateo of Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico.
She was also married to Juan Olivan De Rebelledo who was the First Governor and Capitan of Texas back in 1723.
My name is Bob Lozano, and this is my first posting. During my retirement I
have been researching my genealogy and found that my Lozano lineage goes
back to Rio Chico, in Jalisco. The earliest document I have is for the
Christening of Juana Maria Lozano Diaz on 17 Sep 1752. She was Christened
in Teocaltiche and was born in Rio Chico. The posting of zacatecano020
details the naming of Rio Chico in the late 1600's from the Estancia De
Esteban Angon". My question is, "when did the Lozano family become
associated with Rio Chico?" I am also curious to know if there was any
contact between the Angon family and the Lozano family.
I present this information just in case anyone in the group happens to be
related to the families mentioned below. Take heed that I am not endorsing
this group of lawyers but just passing on the information.
Presento esta información por si acaso alguien en el grupo tiene relacion
con las familias que se mencionan. Ten cuidado de que no apoya a este grupo
de abogados pero sólo pasando la informacion
From: Inken Siems [mailto:isiems@poenisch.com.mx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:46 AM
To: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: research state of Jalisco
Muy buenos días Sr. Joseph,
Mi nombre es Inken Siems de Pönisch Abogados. Estoy investigando en un caso
de herencia en Lagos de moreno, Jalisco, por lo que es que me dirigo a usted
y su foro en la página web nuestrosranchos.org.
Busco herederos de Mary Lucille Arce, fallecida en California, nacida en la
ciudad de México (30 de noviembre de 1948) e hija de Lucille Elodury (nacida
en la ciudad de México e hija única) y Francisco V. Arce (hijo de Francisco
Arce y Ana Maria Velasquez), nacido el 27 de febrero de 1924 en Lagos de
Moreno. Por lo tanto, estoy investigando si existen herederos por parte del
padre (Francisco V. Arce).
Cuál fue la situación familia del padre? Hermanos? Descendientes?
Qué frecuente es el apellido Arce en Lagos de Moreno?
Le agradezco mucho de antemano por su ayuda y cualquier indicio o consejo
por donde buscar.
Cordialmente,
Frau
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My 7th GG Grandparents:
Antonio Madera (1660? - 1709?) and Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655?-1735)
They resided at Minillas, Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico
If anyone finds their marriage record can you please let me know because I want to see who their parents are.
I believe that the father of Maria De La Candelaria Angon may be "Esteban Angon" who at her time had an Estancia called, "Rio Chico" near Jerez which today is now the Hacienda Santa Rosa. That Hacienda started out as a rancho in 1632 which belonged to Joan (Juan) De Angon) which then it went to Esteban Angon. Esteban Angon had two herederos which one is suppose to be Juana Angon. The other should be Maria Angon.
http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/
i've finished the 1825 collection recently. is there another collection not on my blog or claudia's that you would like t be indexed?
Who where the Chinacos of Mexico? They didn't have anything to do with Chinese.
They were suppose to be mestizos and brave men. One of their notable styles of dress is a scarf that covered their whole scalp.
I found this article on the Chinacos:
http://www.highnoon.com/hn-ss8-2010feature.html
Iam trying to access Family Search 5/9/2015 records and the loading button is not working is there another site I can look for actual records like family search for Zacatecas Mexico or maybe the site is down for now does any body know?
Estoy buscando el apellido OLIVARES que al parecer tiene origenes en los
Altos de Jalisco.
Alguien tiene datos sobre este apellido?
Gracias
I was looking at entierros of Jerez, Zacatecas, Mexico and on page 10 which is year 1649:
http://oi57.tinypic.com/24gskg1.jpg
I underlined in green the name "Angon" can any of you tell me if I am write it says "Angon?" What is the first name?
Here is the link where I found it and is pg 10, left side near the top:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15068-63166-21?cc=1804458&wc…
I am tracking Joan (Juan) De Angon who had a rancho in 1633 near Jerez:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/2qdzqk8.jpg
This rancho was exactly located here:
http://oi60.tinypic.com/152jals.jpg
I know that he had a son named "Esteban Angon."
I believe Joan Angon is the grandfather of my 7th generation great grandmother "Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655 - 1709) who married Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709).
buenas tardes
compañeros de este foro
alguien sabe a donde o si existe alguna organización donde pueda yo enviar mi documentación genealógica para que me certifique o reconozcan como descediente de Moctezuma?
existe alguna organización ?
a una dirección ?
alguien me podría orientar
se los agradecería mucho
gracias por la atención prestada
excelente dia a todos
saludos
I am going through defuntos of Zacatecas in the PARS website and I came across an interesting one.
A person by the name of "Simon De Los Angeles" who is originally from Pampagna, Phillipines that passed away in Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico in 1676.
His occupation is "Filigranero" which is a "jeweler."
http://oi61.tinypic.com/16kb7z8.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/hrbvns.jpg
The reference no. CONTRATACION,459,N.2,R.2
to look up in Pars website: http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest
I looked up what that occupation is "Filigranero" and it is like this:
http://www.aquila-style.com/lifestyle/design-lifestyle/filigrana-jewell…
In English it is called "Filigree"
I came across the defunto records of Tomas De Onate and Juan De Onate.
Reference no. is CONTRATACION,460,N.1,R.1
for Pars website: http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest
Thank you Welester. . .this is going out to the NR group and Ciudad Juarez
group.
From: Lester Alvarado [mailto:hombrepi@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 3:34 PM
To: Joseph Puentes; Moises Garza
Subject: Nuevo fuente de Microfilms
Moises & Joseph,
Im sending you this new source of possible information . Daniel is the
director at the TEC university of the Dept. of Patrimonio Cultural and
Biblioteca Cervantina and for the last year he and others have gathered up
some new images on microfilm and I thought it might be of interest to you .
Daniel has given me his go ahead to pass it on to you guys .
Un abrazote fuerte,
Welester
P.S. there is an error in quantity its 335 thousand click on the
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Estimad@s: Agradeaco esta información de referencia muy importante para
nosotros.
De paso les comento que seguimos promocionando nuestra página
http://genealogia.itesm.mx , con cerca de 335
mil imágenes correspondientes a documentos originalmente microfilmados,
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la última década del siglo XVI. La dejo a su revisión y amable difusión.
¡Saludos cordiales y gracias desde ya!
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Here is list of microfilm numbers to order for Hacienda San Mateo of Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico:
Here is a list of microfilm numbers that you can order to look at:
Does anyone have ancestors from here? Does anyone know the history? I just realized today that the official name is San Jose de los Marquez. Some of my family from there is Marquez. Also Galvan & Villegas.
Thanks,
Laura Gonzalez
A town dance or gathering during colonial times. Meeting people from other villages, towns, haciendas, ranchos at the dance.
With proper manners. Approaching someone and politely ask...."May I invite you to the floor for a dance?"
Then while dancing and chatting, she says she is from nearby Hacienda.
They must have met like that.
I am asking if anyone has connection to the "Angon" surname in the Zacatecas/Jalisco area?
I want to see if any of you can make a connection to "Joan (Juan) Angon" who was in Zacatecas very early in the first half of the 1600's. He supposedly had a son name Esteban Angon.
And I want to see if any of you have connections with them?
My 7th generation great grandmother name "Maria De La Candelaria Angon (1655 - 1735) who is the wife of my 7th generation great grandfather "Antonio Madera (1660 - 1709) lived at Minillas, Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico.
I would think that Maria De La Candelaria Angon was the daughter of Esteban Angon and grand-dauther of Joan (Juan) De Angon who were in a rancho nearby in Zacatecas.
I am having trouble locating marriage or birth records for Clara Ruiz de Esparza from Aguascalientes. She married Juan Antonio Chagolla. I know they had one daughter, Maria Bernada Chagolla that died in 1782.
Questions:
I have read that there was a founding family in Aguascalientes that was named Ruiz de Esparza. Is there a list and/or family tree published of their descendants?
Does anyone else have information about Clara Ruiz de Esparza and Juan Chagolla?
Is there a list of Spanish surnames of the families in Aguascalientes in the 1600s?
I would appreciate any help. Thank you.
I am looking for descendants of Descendants of Jose Maria Gonzalez and Maria de Jesus Navarro. They were married on 30/Oct/1815 in Tepatitlan Jalisco
I have as their children :
Jose Sebastian Gonzalez Navarro
Jose Pragedis Gonzalez Navarro
Jose Leocadio Rafael Gonzalez Navarro aka Rafael Gonzalez Navarro
Maria Isidra de la Merced Gonzalez Navarro
Rafael Gonzalez Navarro married Aleja Gutierrez (daughter of Loreto Gutierrez and Prudencia Gomez)
Many of their descendants were born in Pegueros and I would like to connect with those lines.
Jose Maria Gonzalez is the son of Antonio Gonzalez and Maria de Jesus was baptized Maria Agapita de Jesus and is the daughter of Juan Antonio Navarro and Margarita Gutierrez.
Maria Agapita de Jesus Navarro Gutierrez was married twice. I descend from her other marriage.
Thanks
R A Ricci
I found this link that has information on colonial Zacatecas that this person did research on:
http://www.academia.edu/290415/Urban_Indians_in_a_Colonial_Silver_City_…
Hi everyone,
I'm very happy to have found this group and I just wanted to briefly introduce myself. My name is Jean Guerrero, I'm a KPBS reporter in San Diego, previously with the Wall Street Journal in Mexico City. For the past several years I have been working on a reported family memoir about my paternal family's migration from Mexico to the U.S. My great great grandparents, Gregorio Valenzuela and Juana Velasquez, were born in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas. My great grandfather, Antonio Valenzuela, was born to them in 1901 in Rancho de Encinillas in the same pueblo.
I will be posting on the genealogy research forum with specific questions. Nice to e-meet everyone! And thanks for accepting me into the group.
Sincerely,
Jean
