Dear Cindy:
Then the Mexican Census in 1930 will be what you might want to look at.
It may show your mother's and father's families. From there you will know
the grandparents names. Also looking at the LDS microfilms if available for
your mother's and father's births may also list the grandparents on both
sides. I put in Acatic Mexico in familysearch. I am not sure if this is
your Acatic or if there is another Acatic in Mexico. You may want to find
out then order the microfilms, if this is your Acatic. See links below:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
play=titledetails&titleno=154073&disp=Registros+parroquiales%20%20&columns=*
,0,0

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
play=localitydetails&subject=178118&subject_disp=M%C3%A9xico%2C+Jalisco%2C+A
catic&columns=*,0,0

Maureen

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of cindy
gutierrez
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:37 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gutierrez y de La Torre

Dear Maureen,

My father was the first one of his family to come to the states, that was in
1956. His father died when he was 7 and his mother died in 1964 in Acatic.
His 2 brothers followed here, and my Aunts only live here part time, and
that only started a few years ago. My fathers cousins are here, but I know
nothing about them other than they came in the 1970-1980's. I am hoping to
get more info this summer, but, I have to keep my fingers crossed on that
one.

Cindy

----- Original Message ----
From: Maureen Bejar
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:07:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gutierrez y de La Torre

Dear Cindy:
I did not see a Clementina De La Torre in my records, but then 1873
might have been a little too early for her. I have asked my in-laws about
their family and they always say oh, I can't remember much, but then if you
just listen while they talk, they end up telling you little clues about your
families past. Also, have you looked at the border crossings on
ancestry.com? Sometimes who families, extended families, crossed together.
It usually describes the person's physical appearance and sometimes has
pictures. Really neat. Also, the family search labs has the 1930 Mexican
Census. I do not know about the Acatic records, but it is worth a try.
Good luck.

Maureen Bejar

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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of cindy
gutierrez
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:04 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gutierrez y de La Torre

Hola to you!

I spoke to my father today and he told me that the Gutierrez family had a
Rancho El Monte in Acatic. My De La Torre's had tha Rancho El Sauz. I have
been to Acatic, Tepa, etc visiting family when I was a youngster. My dad
also said that his parents were married in the Church in Acatic. I had an
Aunt Clementina from Acatic. In my fathers family my dad and one uncle took
the last name Gutierrez, my other uncle took the name De La Torre. I have
pictures of Rancho El Sauz, or what was left of it taken in 1980 the last
time I was in Acatic. My Aunt Esperanza said all of the land has been sold
off probably in 2000. I know absolutely nothing about my family other than
the pedigree I posted. My dad is 71 and cannot remember much, but, I am
going to see my Aunts this summer in Dixon Ca and will try to see if they
remember anything.

Cindy

----- Original Message ----
From: Ronald Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:50:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gutierrez y de La Torre

Hola Ladies ,I too have Gutierrez and de La Torre lines. The Gutierrez line
hangs out in the region of Los Altos -Jalostotitlan,San Miguel el Alto and
San Julian . Jalos lies near Tepatitlan. I have an ancestor Clemente de La
Torre Ledesma (which are two names put together some time back) was from
Tepatitlan and his offspring which some stayed with de La Torre.
Ronnie Reynoso > From: gsoa@hotmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:30:21 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] (no
subject)> > > Hi Cindy I have some Gutierrez and De la Torre in my family
too. I guess info posted on these surnames will be usful for both of us. I
submited a small file, please seeif you can access it, it may be useful for
you.> Gabriela> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:25:42 -0700> From:
cjg63@sbcglobal.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros
Ranchos] (no subject)> > Hello Everyone,> > My name is Cindy Gutierrez and I
am researching my father Antonio's family. He was born in Jalisco in a small
town called Acatic. He was born on his father's Rancho El Sauz. The family
names I am researching are Gutierrez(my grandmother Josephinas family name)
and De La Torre (my grandfather Antonios family name). Included are De
Moron, Becerra, and a few others that I am still trying to get. My
Grandmothers
family had a Rancho near
Tepa, I think, my dad is kind of fuzzy on some things, but I will get all
the information I can. Most of my fathers family is here now, although they
live part of the year in Acatic. I have been to Mexico many times to see
family and take pictures of the Rancho before they sold it. I would love to
know more about my family and possibly connect with cousins here in
California an> d elsewhere. Unfortunately I no longer am able to speak
Spanish so that has limited my ability to get information. I am very by the
possibilites of> this website. > > Cindy Gutierrez> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --